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Would the free spins have come at any other level?

22nd Apr. 2019, at 10:23 pm CEST#11

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I'm not a programmer, but the slots have an RTP, or AQ, so a certain percentage is returned to the player, I guess this is related to how much the slot is played at the moment. If there is a high utilization of the game, then probably the player with higher stakes will land a "big hit". If there is not much going on, then the low rollers will get a hit from time to time. This is how I see it

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Would the free spins have come at any other level?

22nd Apr. 2019, at 10:36 pm CEST#12

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The RTP is the indication of the number of "infinitely" many spins there it does not matter whether just many play the slot or not otherwise you would also land during the day more big hits than at night, so it is also nonsense that slots only pay when they had enough revenue what is always claimed with Slot machines, of course you can win more money than is in the box in my case the money was paid to me by the chip shop operator and he gets it back from the operator of the machines but the chip man is not obliged to advance the win from his cash box

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22nd Apr. 2019, at 11:20 pm CEST#13

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The RTP is incidental, not entirely but still.
Each slot is programmed and does certain things, which are in the sense of the programming, i.e. the provider. The coincidence is helped there already a little on the jumps. An example are the Scatters, there are always two and in the next spin the quasi third, all by chance? ... no so programmed and wanted and therefore the good companies also employ psychologists. It is always claimed that this is pure chance, but if I take games like Jammin Jars, Rise of Olympus or Reactoonz, where the images are predefined and where the whole sequence of images is drawn from a Pot, the same near-situations can be observed. It goes exactly to get one not from the FS or it is missing only one symbol on the big win. Here the providers expose themselves and show how the whole runs off...intentionally runs off. Also that, for example, in the last 10 spins of a 100 car session, for example, always come two scatters is not a coincidence. It is already all coincidence and the RNG does its job, but can only retrieve what is programmed. So it is also with the bet levels, these have of course already influence on what runs there and that is intentionally so programmed. There are of course also wins and FS if you play on higher stakes but on the one hand, the high rollers are good money makers and on the other hand, the slot should be balanced to keep the overall RTP, yes exactly that comes to the fore but in conjunction with what is programmed and it can not so many people with high stakes win high, because this is neither in the sense of the casino nor the Provider, who wants to offer an attractive game for the casino. With many high wins and payouts now both would not be really happy.
I think the betting amount also has an influence and since all data is used, this is not a problem. The only control mechanism is the RTP and if the extrapolated is kept the slot is OK, everything else is not taken into account and gives the providers a lot of leeway. The fact that the RTP is also influenced is another topic, but I will also briefly address. The RTP is now increasingly designed to the disadvantage of the player. You first have many dead spins, then smaller wins and then two somewhat larger, the RTP comes so about the average, but you always remain below the balance with which you came into the game and play so on and on. Of course there are also good wins but they become less and less, in the game Rise of Olympus I could follow this very well with almost 400,000 spins...

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23rd Apr. 2019, at 12:04 am CEST#14

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Unbeliver wrote on 04/22/2019 23:20: The RTP is incidental, not quite but still.
Each slot is programmed and does certain things that are in the sense of the programming thus the provider. The coincidence is helped there already a little on the jumps. An example are the Scatters, there are always two and in the next spin the quasi third, all by chance? ... no so programmed and wanted and therefore the good companies also employ psychologists. It is always claimed that this is pure chance, but if I take games like Jammin Jars, Rise of Olympus or Reactoonz, where the images are predefined and where the whole sequence of images is drawn from a Pot, the same near-situations can be observed. It goes exactly to get one not from the FS or it is missing only one symbol on the big win. Here the providers expose themselves and show how the whole runs off...intentionally runs off. Also that, for example, in the last 10 spins of a 100 car session, for example, always come two scatters is not a coincidence. It is already all coincidence and the RNG does its job, but can only retrieve what is programmed. So it is also with the bet levels, these have of course already influence on what runs there and that is intentionally so programmed. There are of course also wins and FS if you play on higher stakes but on the one hand, the high rollers are good money makers and on the other hand, the slot should be balanced to keep the overall RTP, yes exactly that comes to the fore but in conjunction with what is programmed and it can not so many people with high stakes win high, because this is neither in the sense of the casino nor the Provider, who wants to offer an attractive game for the casino. With many high wins and payouts now both would not be really happy.
I think the betting amount also has an influence and since all data is used, this is not a problem. The only control mechanism is the RTP and if the extrapolated is kept the slot is OK, everything else is not taken into account and gives the providers a lot of leeway. The fact that the RTP is also influenced is another topic, but I will also briefly address. The RTP is now increasingly designed to the disadvantage of the player. You first have many dead spins, then smaller wins and then two somewhat larger, the RTP comes so about the average, but you always remain below the balance with which you came into the game and play so on and on. Of course there are also good wins but they become less and less, in the game Rise of Olympus I could follow this very well with almost 400,000 spins...

Except for the lower paragraph a good contribution.
But the stakes do not matter at all. For example, step bets are explicitly forbidden!

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Dbac79

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Would the free spins have come at any other level?

23rd Apr. 2019, at 12:33 am CEST#15

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Royal777 wrote on 04-23-2019 00:04 AM
Except for the bottom paragraph, a good post.
But the stakes don't matter at all. For example, step bets are explicitly forbidden!

isn't there even the possibility to play preset level bets at elk slots?

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23rd Apr. 2019, at 12:51 am CEST#16

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Dbac79 wrote on 04/23/2019 00:33 PM

isn't there even the possibility to play preset level bets at elk slots?

No. These strategies are limited to a few bets

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23rd Apr. 2019, at 01:28 am CEST#17

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Royal777 wrote on 04-23-2019 00:04 AM
Except for the bottom paragraph, a good post.
But the stakes don't matter at all. For example, step bets are explicitly forbidden!

Why should the "step betting" be forbidden. I mean now at slots without bonus or just at live there are no rules about it. I read the terms and conditions and have never found a point. There are many people who play so high and increase the stake more and more, but had not read here or elsewhere that these people then had problems with wins or even the payout...

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23rd Apr. 2019, at 01:40 am CEST#18

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Royal777 wrote on 04/23/2019 00:51 PM
Yep, these strategies are limited to a few stakes

These strategies are not limited to few bets. You can select the strategy at Elk-Games and then set the max number of 100 autospins and the strategy runs. I can repeat the autospins over and over again and the strategy will stay the same. Have you ever played Elk-Games or even used one of the strategies?
But since it is not forbidden to play like that anyway it doesn't matter

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23rd Apr. 2019, at 04:50 am CEST#19

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Unbeliver wrote on 04/23/2019 01:40 AM
These strategies are not limited to a few bets. You can select the strategy at Elk-Games and then set the max number of 100 autospins and the strategy runs. I can repeat the autospins over and over again and the strategy remains. Have you ever played Elk-Games or even used one of the strategies?
But since it is not forbidden to play like that anyway it doesn't matter

As already written above, these ELK strategies e.g. at HongKong Tower are limited. There is only a limited choice of bets possible with these strategies. The number of spins does not matter.

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23rd Apr. 2019, at 05:05 am CEST#20

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It is possible that my term "tiered betting" is the wrong technical term. I advise everyone not to use this betting system . This will only result in your payout being denied. Gambling with illegal betting system can be penalized.
Of course, anyone who varies the bet or raises it after a win/draw has nothing to fear.

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