Online Casinos in general: Would like to hear your opinion about the Youtuber Casino Controller. (Page 6)

Tonka bean wrote on 22/09/2023 at 13:21: At the latest video he tells many interesting things.

That Stake was probably stolen 40 million etc...

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Falke wrote on 01.10.2023 at 05:42: I have now also watched a few videos of the. But I can't listen to it for long. Alone already with his intro slips me an inner "Shut the fre...".

For me, the guy is 100% fake. You can tell pretty quickly that he has no idea at all. Sometimes he uses terms that don't make any sense at all and also basically he speaks very funny. He speaks like someone who has learned a few technical terms, but not like a real gambler. And his complete lack of emotion, whether he wins or loses, also speaks volumes. So he's playing with play money and earning a little something from his aff links. And his crypto talk is also just read and pure marketing strategy to justify his supposed wealth.

His alleged shares in Winz.io are also complete nonsense. Above all, no halfway intelligent person would sell such shares, after all, it's about a company that earns hundreds of millions. Instead, he has an aff link on his website to winz.io. Yeah, right. First I sell my shares that make me millions every year, only to become a tiny aff partner.

This guy is a blowhard. But find it fascinating what simple stories can be used to convince people very easily.

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frapi07 wrote on 01/10/2023 at 12:32 PM:

I can tell you this about his aff partnership: he recently became an affiliate. Before that he was not sponsored by them. You can also explain his indifference by saying that I'm sure he's already lost more than he'd like to admit. In the process, one becomes blunt. I know it from me too. At the very beginning I had extreme respect for 100€ Bonus Buys, meanwhile it is rather low budget for me - but I don't gamble very high. Maximum bet was always 10€ per spin. At some point you get used to everything, even 250-500 € spins or 200k € loss.

Selling the shares of an OC makes sense. That is very risky. Above all, since 2021, it was not possible to estimate exactly how high the revenues would be in 2022 and 2023. We didn't know how hard the authorities would intervene. In the end, things didn't turn out so drastically after all. At the moment, only a few service providers have bailed out (Paysafe, Skrill, Neteller), otherwise hardly anything has happened there. It is a company in itself, but you can't compare it with a DAX company.

It may be that my estimates are wrong and he was always an affiliate. I don't want to rule it out, but it's not impossible that he was telling the truth. At least he is not as brazen as other Youtuber who "win" several times several million.

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gamble1 wrote on 01.10.2023 at 16:21:
Apart from that he did not give up his shares voluntarily he was more or less forced to do so by Austria


I guess he is not necessarily a fake now can not be just because someone loses big and gambles away a lot of money to conclude equal to a fake

In the casino I've seen years ago people who have 500 € bill like 5 € bills piled in the boxes stuffed and then with a few max spinners everything to verballern

There are just people who have at the end of the month not their 1.5 -3.5 k on the account but 100k or more to assume none of those would gamble I think is wrong

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Tonka Bean wrote on 01.10.2023 at 17:04: @falcon
Give it a rest

Just because someone can't express themselves on your level doesn't mean it's all fake.

Look at the very old videos.

He played with normal stakes.

Has something invested in BTC and Solarna shares, etc...

This is definitely not play money.

Which OC charges you so much play money to then show that it actually brings zero to play on such stakes or to make bonus buys.

He always emphasizes that it is highly addictive and also why I think so jaded.

If you play with such high stakes then you are no longer happy about 100-200k win 🤷‍♀️

The streamers from back then who also had high wins and behaved like monkeys, those were fakes !

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gamble1 wrote on 01.10.2023 at 16:21:
Apart from that he did not give up his shares voluntarily he was more or less forced to do so by Austria


I guess he is not necessarily a fake now can not be just because someone loses big and gambles away a lot of money to conclude equal to a fake

In the casino I've seen years ago people who have 500 € bill like 5 € bills piled in the boxes stuffed and then with a few max spinners everything to verballern

There are just people who have at the end of the month not their 1.5 -3.5 k on the account but 100k or more to assume none of those would gamble I think is wrong

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gamble1 wrote on 01.10.2023 at 17:17:
Good point would be the casino yes nice stupid because most of the play money guys and girls have really a real lucky streak when they gamble that is good advertising what the controller does rather not with so much loss


Apart from that I notice it but even earlier at the beginning it went off at the machines with 0.05-0.20 use then quickly to 0.80-4 € and sometime at the peak 100 € Fach online the things bombed while of course always trying to start small which has a very quickly bored

I had to take a break and slowly get used to smaller stakes again to now have fun again even on 0.20 but the phase has really cost me a lot of money

Slowly I notice how I slowly again something dull when I press e.g. the Merkur 140 ? Nothing special 220 ? Also not it must be the 300 so that one can be pleased

I think regardless of whether addicted or not it is normal if you dull with time but everyone is just different I can push away at a machine 100 one next to me freaks out because of 2.50 win because he has deposited 5 € (No shit seen yesterday)

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frapi07 wrote on 01/10/2023 at 12:32 PM:

I can tell you this about his aff partnership: he recently became an affiliate. Before that he was not sponsored by them. You can also explain his indifference by saying that I'm sure he's already lost more than he'd like to admit. In the process, one becomes blunt. I know it from me too. At the very beginning I had extreme respect for 100€ Bonus Buys, meanwhile it is rather low budget for me - but I don't gamble very high. Maximum bet was always 10€ per spin. At some point you get used to everything, even 250-500 € spins or 200k € loss.

Selling the shares of an OC makes sense. That is very risky. Above all, since 2021, it was not possible to estimate exactly how high the revenues would be in 2022 and 2023. We didn't know how hard the authorities would intervene. In the end, things didn't turn out so drastically after all. At the moment, only a few service providers have bailed out (Paysafe, Skrill, Neteller), otherwise hardly anything has happened there. It is a company in itself, but you can't compare it with a DAX company.

It may be that my estimates are wrong and he was always an affiliate. I don't want to rule it out, but it's not impossible that he was telling the truth. At least he is not as brazen as other Youtuber who "win" several times several million.

Tonka bean wrote on 01.10.2023 at 17:04: @Falcon
Give it a rest

Just because someone can't express themselves on your level doesn't mean it's all fake.

Look at the very old videos.

He played with normal stakes.

Has invested something in BTC and Solarna shares etc...

This is definitely not play money.

Which OC charges you so much play money to then show that it actually brings zero to play on such stakes or to make bonus buys.

He always emphasizes that it is highly addictive and also why I think so jaded.

If you play with such high stakes then you are no longer happy about 100-200k win 🤷‍♀️

The streamers from back then who also had high wins and behaved like monkeys, those were fakes !

gamble1 wrote on 01.10.2023 at 17:17:
Good point would be the casino yes nice stupid because most of the play money guys and girls have really a real lucky streak when they gamble that is good advertising what the controller does rather not with so much loss


Apart from that I notice it but even earlier at the beginning it went off at the machines with 0.05-0.20 use then quickly to 0.80-4 € and sometime at the peak 100 € Fach online the things bombed while of course always trying to start small which has a very quickly bored

I had to take a break and slowly get used to smaller stakes again to now have fun again even on 0.20 but the phase has really cost me a lot of money

Slowly I notice how I slowly again something dull when I press e.g. the Merkur 140 ? Nothing special 220 ? Also not it must be the 300 so that one can be pleased

I think regardless of whether addicted or not it is normal if you dull with time but everyone is just different I can push away at a machine 100 one next to me freaks out because of 2.50 win because he has deposited 5 € (No shit seen yesterday)

gamble1 wrote on 01/10/2023 at 16:21:
Apart from that he didn't give his shares voluntarily he was more or less forced to by Austria

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frapi07 wrote on 01.10.2023 at 18:40:

Yes, I am also aware that there is such a thing.

How much he has eig. available, no one here can say, but he will probably have lost a lot of money, otherwise he would not have become an Affiliate of Winz. Especially his last video, where he charges 1 million to finally pay out 600k (and loses 400k) can only be sponsored. He has never been that extreme before - or very rarely.

@Tonka I think you mean Knossi. That was his "way". Most affiliates show eig. little joy when they win hundreds of thousands or even millions. Sure, they try to radiate joy, but you can tell that it's just acting. Take a look at the videos of Ayzee, Rohstein etc.. Their reactions are so cold... or look how often "Biggo" gets a max win. These are eig. sums, which can change one's life nevertheless and their "joy" holds itself thereby in borders. Is clear

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Falcon wrote on 01.10.2023 at 18:42:

See, just at such a point, it amazes me what people let themselves be told. How should Austria have forced him to do it and why at all? Winz.io has a Curacao license and the company is not based in Austria. Foreign investments are not forbidden and just because you are from Austria it is not forbidden to invest in a foreign company.


Besides, silent participation in a company and managing director/owner are quite different legal things.

This shows that he is talking complete nonsense. He will have read somewhere that foreign casinos are illegal in Austria and then made up some story that seems plausible and people just believe it without thinking about it again.

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gamble1 wrote on 01.10.2023 at 18:56:

We do not know the individual case there was talk of a fine if not everything deceives me


But either way it can be yes he has 20xx much invested in BTC what quite some have then that would again be a good argument to have the sums ready whether you then if you have millions casino videos on Youtube makes everyone must know for themselves I would not with a million sum on the account but I can well imagine someone else would do it

I see just no sense behind it to make videos with play money where you lose mostly bottomless sums I would have afterwards no Bock to gamble when I see the nonsense there

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Falcon wrote on 01.10.2023 at 18:42:

But do you notice anything? How you and many others make up arguments here that speak for him, just because you just decided at some point to believe him.


Why shouldn't you be able to estimate how high the revenues of a casino will be? Just because the German market has disappeared? Casinos are active all over the world. The loss of a market is painful, but it's far from being a break. You're looking at this completely from the German point of view. But this view looks completely different from the casino's side. And someone who is involved in a multi-million company also sees the whole thing somewhat differently and also has completely different insights into figures and data. Just the fact that the controller brings such a shallow argument shows once again that the guy has zero idea.

Falcon wrote on 01.10.2023 at 19:07:

Sure, he can have money and through cryptos many unsuspecting milksops have become millionaires, no question.


But as an experienced gambler, there is nothing to suggest that he is playing for real money.

The point behind it is simple: make money with aff links! Who says that he gambles at all? He makes a 15 minute video every week and puts it up on Youtube. The effort for this is zero and the aff links will already bring him four-figure sums.
If I would think about how I could still make reach with gamer videos in the big competition mass, then probably the same. With astronomical stakes and convince people that it was real money. Marketing stunt succeeded.

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