So far I'm about 15-16,000 euros in the red. I have no debts. I've had 5 payouts when it comes to the crunch. Maximum. I have gambled away my winnings again and therefore probably made fewer depositors and gambled away less than I should have.... My highest win that I gambled away was around 8,000 euros. I play sports betting and casino. Yesterday I sank another 950 euros. I had 1,100 euros in my account. Payout already in process and canceled again. What is the best way to pay out these wins cleanly in the future and how do you defeat your greed at that moment? Just give the login details to someone else until the payout is completed? I gave my smartphone to my girlfriend yesterday but stupidly took it back and didn't give her the login details .... Also had clean won sports bets with 6,000 euros. But I'm beginning to think this is the addiction and the suffering and the career of a sports betting and gambling addict or gambler.
Pay out, feel happy and rightly feel like a win. Keep an Excel list where you enter deposits and withdrawals. You are only a winner when the list is in the black. Everything else is just a snapshot and worth nothing as long as it's only book money. To cool down, Deposit a fifty or a hundred somewhere (another casino) and play around with the balance on the side on small bets if your fingers are still itching. Don't touch the big amounts until the money is there.
I have already thought about it. I don't think I'm the only one who is massively in the red. At the moment I'm in the red by about the amount I said above and I'm trying to somehow get on a green branch and learn to control myself. Your tips are definitely not wrong. Do you have any tips for good casinos? But you can't really control gambling, just like sports betting, and the bottom line is that you always end up in the red, right?
Verlierer2023 wrote on 30.12.2023 at 19:32: I have already thought about it. I don't think I'm the only one who is massively in the red. At the moment I'm about the amount I said above in the red and I'm trying to somehow get on a green branch and learn to control myself. Your tips are definitely not wrong. Do you have any tips for good casinos? But you can't really control gambling, just like sports betting, and the bottom line is that you always end up in the red, right?
It would go beyond the scope of this article to recommend casinos or providers: there are an infinite number of useful topics on this site that can be accessed quickly Of course you can control your gambling: Setting a budget that you can afford and sticking to it would be the most important step. As far as the minus is concerned...Not everyone and not necessarily makes losses, but the majority of players end up in the red sooner or later...that's true. You should be aware of this and therefore limit your Risk of loss.
With my current 15-16,000 euros in the red, do I have any chance of getting back on track or making a profit? I wanted to take a break now that I don't have any debts and currently still have some reserves and then maybe try again with an iron limit and a combination of sports betting and casino. The bad thing is that I also have a child and that's why I blame myself for the minus. But I think my minus is still relatively manageable when I read here what other people have gambled away. But the loss of control is classic for a sports betting or casino addiction. Just yesterday I won 1,000 euros in the casino and gambled it away again and had deposited just over 1,000 euros. With the stupid thought of winning even more instead of cashing out . I stupidly canceled the payout and thought it couldn't eat up all your money. Actually only play Tome of Madness 😏
Verlierer2023 wrote on 30.12.2023 at 19:54: With my current 15-16,000 euros minus, do I even have the chance to get back on track or into the plus. I wanted to take a break now that I have no debts and currently still have some reserves and then maybe try again with an iron limit and a combination of sports betting and casino. The bad thing is that I also have a child and that's why I blame myself for the minus. But I think my minus is still relatively manageable when I read here what other people have gambled away. But the loss of control is classic for a sports betting or casino addiction. Just yesterday I won 1,000 euros in the casino and gambled it away again and had deposited just over 1,000 euros. With the stupid thought of winning even more instead of cashing out . I stupidly canceled the payout and thought it couldn't eat up all your money. Actually only play Tome of Madness 😏
I'm just a small pocket money gambler and have no in-depth knowledge of advice. But what I do know is that you have no real chance of winning back the €15,000. It's better to stop completely today rather than tomorrow and invest the money in yourself and your family - that's where it's really well spent. That's actually the only and best advice I can give you in good conscience right now.
Edit: and forget about my writing on the Excel list.... Your comment in which you describe yourself as a gambling addict was only activated afterwards. I certainly wouldn't have recommended that to you.
Set a limit with the Provider and wait for the payout. If you then cancel, you can only gamble it away in 1 euro increments per day. After all, you have no debts 👍 Happy New Year 😃
Verlierer2023 wrote on 30.12.2023 at 20:51: I don't see any real chance of winning the money back either.
Maybe you're aware of that, but secretly you're hoping for it. You play down your addiction (€15-16,000 is not much compared to others). I can therefore only agree with LangHans. You have a Gambling addiction problem. A break is probably not enough for you, as you have already mentioned that you want to try again.
Even if it's difficult, talk to someone about it. Talk to your wife/partner and if you are afraid of it, talk to someone who can really help you. Try to change your mind, set yourself other goals. You will always be addicted to gambling, the relapse rate is just over 99%. But what you have to learn is to resist this addiction. It's a mental thing that you can do on your own, but if you have help, you won't feel alone. This can often give you a motivational boost.
From what I've read, it seems to me at least that you're determined to get your minus out - no matter what the cost. This also explains your gambling behavior. Even if you set yourself these €1 limits, you'll withdraw the money and then try again in a few days. Until you have recouped your total loss. I can also speak from personal experience.
The vast majority of players are in the red, so on the one hand you are not a loser, but a normal player. The few who are in the black have simply been lucky. To be honest, I don't know if you can call them winners either.
First of all, I would change the name "Loser2023". That already manifests the whole misery Apart from that, I can only agree with Langhans and Frapi07. As long as you have the feeling that you absolutely have to get the loss back, you will probably try to do so in the near future. To stop and/or have the determination to change something, the shock of losing control would have to be greater than the financial loss.
Verlierer2023 wrote on 30.12.2023 at 19:54: With my current 15-16,000 euros minus, do I even have the chance to get back on track or into the plus. I wanted to take a break now that I have no debts and currently still have some reserves and then maybe try again with an iron limit and a combination of sports betting and casino. The bad thing is that I also have a child and that's why I blame myself for the minus. But I think my minus is still relatively manageable when I read here what other people have gambled away. But the loss of control is classic for a sports betting or casino addiction. Just yesterday I won 1,000 euros in the casino and gambled it away again and had deposited just over 1,000 euros. With the stupid thought of winning even more instead of cashing out . I stupidly canceled the payout and thought it couldn't eat up all your money. Actually only play Tome of Madness 😏
No, you didn't. I used to lose that every year. It's not coming back. It's gone. I have to tell you that clearly. Like Hans keeps tables, very precise or stop. Unless you're rich and don't care about gambling the money away.
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It would go beyond the scope of this article to recommend casinos or providers: there are an infinite number of useful topics on this site that can be accessed quickly Of course you can control your gambling: Setting a budget that you can afford and sticking to it would be the most important step. As far as the minus is concerned...Not everyone and not necessarily makes losses, but the majority of players end up in the red sooner or later...that's true. You should be aware of this and therefore limit your Risk of loss.
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I'm just a small pocket money gambler and have no in-depth knowledge of advice. But what I do know is that you have no real chance of winning back the €15,000. It's better to stop completely today rather than tomorrow and invest the money in yourself and your family - that's where it's really well spent. That's actually the only and best advice I can give you in good conscience right now.
Edit: and forget about my writing on the Excel list.... Your comment in which you describe yourself as a gambling addict was only activated afterwards. I certainly wouldn't have recommended that to you.
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Maybe you're aware of that, but secretly you're hoping for it. You play down your addiction (€15-16,000 is not much compared to others). I can therefore only agree with LangHans. You have a Gambling addiction problem. A break is probably not enough for you, as you have already mentioned that you want to try again.
Even if it's difficult, talk to someone about it. Talk to your wife/partner and if you are afraid of it, talk to someone who can really help you. Try to change your mind, set yourself other goals. You will always be addicted to gambling, the relapse rate is just over 99%. But what you have to learn is to resist this addiction. It's a mental thing that you can do on your own, but if you have help, you won't feel alone. This can often give you a motivational boost.
From what I've read, it seems to me at least that you're determined to get your minus out - no matter what the cost. This also explains your gambling behavior. Even if you set yourself these €1 limits, you'll withdraw the money and then try again in a few days. Until you have recouped your total loss. I can also speak from personal experience.
The vast majority of players are in the red, so on the one hand you are not a loser, but a normal player. The few who are in the black have simply been lucky. To be honest, I don't know if you can call them winners either.
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You're heading in a dangerous direction. Today you don't have any debts, but it's very easy to run up debts of 20k in 2 years.
I hardly played at all in 2023. And when there was a win, I always paid it off.
There was only one case of scam where a 4 - 5k win was canceled.
Since then I've cooled off quite a bit anyway.
I just went out after pressing the payout button, did something, went for a walk or did sports. To calm down.
It helped me and in 2024 not a single euro will end up there again, neither in the betting shop nor in casinos or gambling halls.
In the meantime, I have blocked all e-wallets and canceled all credit cards.
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No, you didn't. I used to lose that every year. It's not coming back. It's gone. I have to tell you that clearly. Like Hans keeps tables, very precise or stop. Unless you're rich and don't care about gambling the money away.
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