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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
18th Sep. 2018, at 02:46 pm CEST#1
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Hello,
i have read through some of the topics here and also the complaints page. Basically, the "culprit casinos" repeat themselves all the time. Wunderino, Lapalingo etc..
Obviously, with larger wins is permanently trying to impute some error to the player to not have to pay out. Why are such casinos, after multiple offenses of this kind, not automatically on the Blacklist? Or why is it accepted that the MGA license can be interpreted so broadly?
I have really experienced everything possible with online casinos. Completely regardless of whether now MGA casinos or Curacao casinos. When I read through all the contributions so, I would like to play at any online casino more or even win anything. Because I would be afraid that they do everything so that they do not have to pay out
When I open a new online casino today, I have to spend the first half hour clarifying everything possible so as not to put my foot in it. That can't be true what happens there or what is allowed to them
- i would like to clarify whether this casino in the broadest sense belongs to any Ltd. with which I may have closed an account 3 years ago. Because I can not rely on the fact that this casino automatically denies the registration whether the disclosed data or the deposit.
- clarify the withdrawal methods. A quite funny point meanwhile. Since 20 different Deposit methods are offered, but withdrawal runs bspw only via credit card. At some casinos but can not even see before the Verification, which withdrawal methods are available.
- theoretically, the casino takes thousands of euros in deposits from you, without even knowing whether your provided data also correspond to the truth. That is, without verification. But if you then want to pay out a hundy, they need your entire document folder.
- Bonus conditions. This is for me the point that stinks the most. The differences that are there are actually without any basis. Real money + Bonus money wagering, maximum payout amounts, maximum stakes, tw maximum line stakes, etc. Then there are the "loyalty bonuses". Lapalingo e.g. with an incredible max cashout of 100 euros
- Verification processes. If you do that in advance, so before the deposit, the tw goes incredibly fast. Or tw on the same day. You only need to do one thing. Send documents, contact the live support a few hours later and ask how the verification looks. If you then tell them that you will only deposit when the verification is completed, then the verification is done an hour later. If you want to do the verification in the course of a withdrawal, it will take 3 days.
- Player protection. It is partly unbelievable how the regulations are interpreted here. On a lot of MGA casino sites you won't even find a possibility for self-blocking. If then the chat is not available 24/7, it becomes quite trollish. Theoretically, a player could gamble away thousands of Euros that night without the possibility to close the account. I have also had MGA casinos, which even in Live Chat had no idea what "Selfexclusion" is supposed to be. At least they pretended to
- Player protection reversal: The fun fact par excellence. Came even here in the forum already a few times. On the one hand, the casinos let players deposit 10k a day, but if the times 20k wins and wants to pay out, it is proceeded against him, with the justification: The player is at Risk of Gambling addiction and the casino takes this issue very seriously. That's when it gets really absurd.
In most cases, the MGA license helps you to assert your right. But tw with eternally long processes over several weeks / months
The question to the admin: Is this license really so easy to interpret in all possible directions? As you just need it as an online casino? Are they really allowed to put everything imaginable in their ABG's, which partly lacks any logic? How is this all secured on the part of the license or is there any protection at all?
All MGA casinos want to verify e.g. nen photo ID, deposit confirmations and ne invoice. If your win then but ne certain limit, they suddenly want documents of things that are simply not traceable. With the flimsy excuse of the "security guarantee". Are they really allowed to do that? Only because in the AGB's irgnedwo the addition stands "The casino has the right in various cases to request various documents"? This addition alone is highly questionable for me and deprives the whole thing of complete legal credibility. Because theoretically, that could be anything. Until they find something that you simply don't have or can't get
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
18th Sep. 2018, at 02:57 pm CEST#2
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To the point.
You deliver yourself completely.
Or you don't get your money.
Very few people here think about that.
You can choose.
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
18th Sep. 2018, at 03:35 pm CEST#3
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There is not much more you can add and that brings the whole problem to the point. Really very well summarized, a thank you for this.
You like to play but most of the points you mention here are always the negative side effects which are in the back of your mind. This is at least with me so....
Especially with the MGA one would hope for more here, a clear guideline to the terms and conditions, to deposits & withdrawals, also with regard to verification. A better control and also warnings, penalties and license withdrawals if repeatedly violated. But that doesn't really seem to interest them and since politics is also incapable of providing a clear guideline, especially the EU would be asked here, they have no pressure to improve anything. The few who complain or even sue are calculated in the petty cash for troublemakers and otherwise a lot of people are pulled over the table...would not like to know the "dark figure" exactly...the danger of passing would be quite clear.
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18th Sep. 2018, at 04:02 pm CEST#4
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The mga is for the casinos, not against them.
The experience has been made often enough.
Therefore, casinos are free to do what they want
they want
They are not beholden to any authority.
No company has a better situation!
The energy casino is rated here only with strengths only green ticks I see there. I gave the casino today 10 free spins on Gonzo Quest, so I won 10.43 euros and now this money is only displayed on the one slot Gonzo Quest and I go out of it, then credit and bonus credit is both on 0.00 euros. This is also fraud and now play these 10.43 euros on the slot Gonzo also no longer. Live Chat also no one there, but you can also forget this casino.
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
19th Sep. 2018, at 09:21 pm CEST#7
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Falko wrote on 19.09.2018 at 16:23: The energy casino is rated here only with strengths only green ticks I see there. Me gave the casino today 10 free spins on Gonzo Quest, so I won 10.43 euros and now this money is only displayed on the one slot Gonzo Quest and I go out of it, then credit and bonus credit is both on 0.00 euros. This is also fraud and now play these 10.43 euros on the slot Gonzo also no longer. Live Chat also no one there, but you can also forget this casino
You should play the 10.43 but now down on Gonzo and then what Deposit and continue or play something else and if not you should sneak.
This is called BBM= employment creation measure.
They just gave you a bonus that is tied to certain conditions? In this case, it probably means that you have to wager all the wins from the free spins in Gonzo's Quest. That happens quite often and really says nothing about the casino?
You can simply not accept the gift or try to convert it. All in all, it's a gift and the casino owner will never say "here's 10€, try your luck".
This is really absolutely no reason to Blacklist a casino
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
19th Sep. 2018, at 11:05 pm CEST#9
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Falko wrote on 19.09.2018 at 16:23: The energy casino is rated here only with strengths only green ticks I see there. Me gave the casino today 10 free spins on Gonzo Quest, so I won 10.43 euros and now this money is only displayed on the one slot Gonzo Quest and I go out of it, then credit and bonus credit is both on 0.00 euros. This is also fraud and now play these 10.43 euros on the slot Gonzo also no longer. Live Chat also no one there, but you can also forget this casino
So with "fraud" this example has little to do now. I wanted to achieve with my contribution actually not that now every bonus condition is evaluated as "fraud". Actually, gings yes about something completely different
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20th Sep. 2018, at 07:41 am CEST#10
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DaGambler wrote on 09/18/2018 at 2:46 pm: Hello,
i read through so some topics here and/or also the complaint side. Basically the "culprit casinos" repeat themselves yes all the time. Wunderino, Lapalingo, etc.
Obviously, with larger wins is permanently trying to impute some error to the player to not have to pay out. Why are such casinos, after multiple offenses of this kind, not automatically on the Blacklist? Or why is it accepted that the MGA license can be interpreted so broadly?
I have really experienced everything possible with online casinos. Completely regardless of whether now MGA casinos or Curacao casinos. When I read through all the contributions so, I would like to play at any online casino more or even win anything. Because I would be afraid that they do everything so that they do not have to pay out
When I open a new online casino today, I have to spend the first half hour clarifying everything possible so as not to put my foot in it. That can't be true what happens there or what is allowed to them
- i would like to clarify whether this casino in the broadest sense belongs to any Ltd. with which I may have closed an account 3 years ago. Because I can not rely on the fact that this casino automatically denies the registration whether the disclosed data or the deposit.
- clarify the withdrawal methods. A quite funny point meanwhile. Since 20 different Deposit methods are offered, but withdrawal runs bspw only via credit card. At some casinos but can not even see before the Verification, which withdrawal methods are available.
- theoretically, the casino takes thousands of euros in deposits from you, without even knowing whether your provided data also correspond to the truth. That is, without verification. But if you then want to pay out a hundy, they need your entire document folder.
- Bonus conditions. This is for me the point that stinks the most. The differences that are there are actually without any basis. Real money + Bonus money wagering, maximum payout amounts, max bets, tw maximum line bets, etc. Then there are the "loyalty bonuses". Lapalingo e.g. with an incredible max cashout of 100 euros
- Verification processes. If you do that in advance, so before the deposit, the tw goes incredibly fast. Or tw on the same day. You only need to do one thing. Send documents, contact the live support a few hours later and ask how the verification looks. If you then tell them that you will only deposit when the verification is completed, then the verification is done an hour later. If you want to do the verification in the course of a withdrawal, it will take 3 days.
- Player protection. It is partly unbelievable how the regulations are interpreted here. On a lot of MGA casino sites you won't even find a possibility for self-blocking. If then the chat is not available 24/7, it becomes quite trollish. Theoretically, a player could gamble away thousands of Euros that night without the possibility to close the account. I have also had MGA casinos, which even in Live Chat had no idea what "Selfexclusion" is supposed to be. At least they pretended to
- Player protection reversal: The fun fact par excellence. Came even here in the forum already a few times. On the one hand, the casinos let players deposit 10k a day, but if the times 20k wins and wants to pay out, it is proceeded against him, with the justification: The player is at Risk of Gambling addiction and the casino takes this issue very seriously. That's when it gets really absurd.
In most cases, the MGA license helps you to assert your right. But tw with eternally long processes over several weeks / months
The question to the admin: Is this license really so easy to interpret in all possible directions? As you just need it as an online casino? Are they really allowed to put everything imaginable in their ABG's, which partly lacks any logic? How is this all secured on the part of the license or is there any protection at all?
All MGA casinos want to verify e.g. nen photo ID, deposit confirmations and ne invoice. If your win then but ne certain limit, they suddenly want documents of things that are simply not traceable. With the flimsy excuse of the "security guarantee". Are they really allowed to do that? Only because in the AGB's irgnedwo the addition stands "The casino has the right in various cases to request various documents"? This addition alone is highly questionable for me and deprives the whole thing of complete legal credibility. Because theoretically, that could be anything. Until they find something that you simply don't have or can't get
Hello DaGambler find everything very interesting but still missing something.With almost everything I have to agree.Have me at Royal Panda lock have never received advertising.After the block of 6 months I get every day advertising from them.
Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
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i have read through some of the topics here and also the complaints page. Basically, the "culprit casinos" repeat themselves all the time. Wunderino, Lapalingo etc..
Obviously, with larger wins is permanently trying to impute some error to the player to not have to pay out. Why are such casinos, after multiple offenses of this kind, not automatically on the Blacklist? Or why is it accepted that the MGA license can be interpreted so broadly?
I have really experienced everything possible with online casinos. Completely regardless of whether now MGA casinos or Curacao casinos. When I read through all the contributions so, I would like to play at any online casino more or even win anything. Because I would be afraid that they do everything so that they do not have to pay out
When I open a new online casino today, I have to spend the first half hour clarifying everything possible so as not to put my foot in it. That can't be true what happens there or what is allowed to them
- i would like to clarify whether this casino in the broadest sense belongs to any Ltd. with which I may have closed an account 3 years ago. Because I can not rely on the fact that this casino automatically denies the registration whether the disclosed data or the deposit.
- clarify the withdrawal methods. A quite funny point meanwhile. Since 20 different Deposit methods are offered, but withdrawal runs bspw only via credit card. At some casinos but can not even see before the Verification, which withdrawal methods are available.
- theoretically, the casino takes thousands of euros in deposits from you, without even knowing whether your provided data also correspond to the truth. That is, without verification. But if you then want to pay out a hundy, they need your entire document folder.
- Bonus conditions. This is for me the point that stinks the most. The differences that are there are actually without any basis. Real money + Bonus money wagering, maximum payout amounts, maximum stakes, tw maximum line stakes, etc. Then there are the "loyalty bonuses". Lapalingo e.g. with an incredible max cashout of 100 euros
- Verification processes. If you do that in advance, so before the deposit, the tw goes incredibly fast. Or tw on the same day. You only need to do one thing. Send documents, contact the live support a few hours later and ask how the verification looks. If you then tell them that you will only deposit when the verification is completed, then the verification is done an hour later. If you want to do the verification in the course of a withdrawal, it will take 3 days.
- Player protection. It is partly unbelievable how the regulations are interpreted here. On a lot of MGA casino sites you won't even find a possibility for self-blocking. If then the chat is not available 24/7, it becomes quite trollish. Theoretically, a player could gamble away thousands of Euros that night without the possibility to close the account. I have also had MGA casinos, which even in Live Chat had no idea what "Selfexclusion" is supposed to be. At least they pretended to
- Player protection reversal: The fun fact par excellence. Came even here in the forum already a few times. On the one hand, the casinos let players deposit 10k a day, but if the times 20k wins and wants to pay out, it is proceeded against him, with the justification: The player is at Risk of Gambling addiction and the casino takes this issue very seriously. That's when it gets really absurd.
In most cases, the MGA license helps you to assert your right. But tw with eternally long processes over several weeks / months
The question to the admin: Is this license really so easy to interpret in all possible directions? As you just need it as an online casino? Are they really allowed to put everything imaginable in their ABG's, which partly lacks any logic? How is this all secured on the part of the license or is there any protection at all?
All MGA casinos want to verify e.g. nen photo ID, deposit confirmations and ne invoice. If your win then but ne certain limit, they suddenly want documents of things that are simply not traceable. With the flimsy excuse of the "security guarantee". Are they really allowed to do that? Only because in the AGB's irgnedwo the addition stands "The casino has the right in various cases to request various documents"? This addition alone is highly questionable for me and deprives the whole thing of complete legal credibility. Because theoretically, that could be anything. Until they find something that you simply don't have or can't get
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
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You deliver yourself completely.
Or you don't get your money.
Very few people here think about that.
You can choose.
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
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You like to play but most of the points you mention here are always the negative side effects which are in the back of your mind. This is at least with me so....
Especially with the MGA one would hope for more here, a clear guideline to the terms and conditions, to deposits & withdrawals, also with regard to verification. A better control and also warnings, penalties and license withdrawals if repeatedly violated. But that doesn't really seem to interest them and since politics is also incapable of providing a clear guideline, especially the EU would be asked here, they have no pressure to improve anything. The few who complain or even sue are calculated in the petty cash for troublemakers and otherwise a lot of people are pulled over the table...would not like to know the "dark figure" exactly...the danger of passing would be quite clear.
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
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The experience has been made often enough.
Therefore, casinos are free to do what they want
they want
They are not beholden to any authority.
No company has a better situation!
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
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You should play the 10.43 but now down on Gonzo and then what Deposit and continue or play something else and if not you should sneak.
This is called BBM= employment creation measure.
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
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You can simply not accept the gift or try to convert it. All in all, it's a gift and the casino owner will never say "here's 10€, try your luck".
This is really absolutely no reason to Blacklist a casino
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
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So with "fraud" this example has little to do now. I wanted to achieve with my contribution actually not that now every bonus condition is evaluated as "fraud". Actually, gings yes about something completely different
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Why are various casinos not blacklisted?
Nobody has liked this post so far
Hello DaGambler find everything very interesting but still missing something.With almost everything I have to agree.Have me at Royal Panda lock have never received advertising.After the block of 6 months I get every day advertising from them.
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