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Online Casinos in general: Who of you knows it too?

Topic created on 10th Aug. 2024 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 21 | Views: 1,235
Phillias_Md
Amateur
In the last few months, I've noticed that when you start playing and you're on a roll, you get free spins without end. Sometimes you get three, four, five free spins in a row or a bigger win more often, the Risk ladder also works great, even if you change the slot, it goes on and on. You win well and then:



Five minutes break, because you've been playing for 60 minutes!!!



Okay, let's continue ... oh, what now? No matter what you play or whether it's a small or large bet, you only get very small wins, but bit by bit it really goes downhill. No free spins, only small wins, the Risk ladder and so on no longer work, no matter which slot you play.



Yes, it's gambling and yes, blah blah blah, but I've noticed it so often in all German Online Casinos!



If you download the game statistics, you can see even more clearly ... that something is different.



I'd be interested to know if you know this too or what your opinion is?

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frapi07
Elite
Can explain the phenomenon to you: In OC, you are randomly assigned a seed. This is a value that is responsible for your luck. But don't ask me how it works. After the break, the seed is probably changed and if you get a "bad" seed, then you will have less luck.

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Luckypaul2
Visitor

Phillias_Md wrote on 10.08.2024 at 15:39: In the last few months, I've noticed that when you start playing and you're on a roll, you get free spins without end. Sometimes you get three, four, five free spins in a row or a bigger win more often, the Risk ladder also works great, even if you change the slot, it goes on and on. You win well and then:



Five minutes break, because you've been playing for 60 minutes!!!



Okay, let's continue ... oh, what now? No matter what you play or whether it's a small or large bet, you only get very small wins, but bit by bit it really goes downhill. No free spins, only small wins, the Risk ladder and so on no longer work, no matter which slot you play.



Yes, it's gambling and yes, blah blah blah, but I've noticed it so often in all German Online Casinos!



If you download the game statistics, you can see even more clearly ... that something is different.



I'd be interested to know if you know this too or what your opinion is?

Ha, you're not alone. I've noticed it too.


In fact, bet at home is the only store where I still Deposit money. It's not so noticeable there

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Phillias_Md
Amateur

frapi07 wrote on 10.08.2024 at 15:54: Can explain the phenomenon to you: In OC, you get randomly assigned a seed. This is a value that is responsible for your luck. But don't ask me how it works. After the break, the seed is probably changed and if you get a "bad" seed, then you will also have less luck.


But if I'm assigned a seed then it's no longer random whether you win or not?

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Phillias_Md
Amateur

Luckypaul2 wrote on 10.08.2024 at 23:18:

Ha, you're not alone. I've noticed that too.


In fact, bet at home is the only store where I still Deposit money. It's not so noticeable there

Yes, it's been happening a lot lately

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frapi07
Elite
Pat1991
Top Member
The seed is reassigned at the start of each round, isn't it?

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Pat1991
Top Member

First things first, RNGs begin with a seed number which is essential for generating randomness. This isn't just a random pick; it's usually something incredibly specific, like the exact millisecond on your system clock. That seed is crucial because it's the starting point for the whole random sequence.

But the story doesn't end with one number. This new number becomes the seed for the next round of calculations, and so on. It's a domino effect, where one number leads to the next. The initial unpredictability of the seed, combined with the complexity of the calculations, creates a sequence that appears entirely random.


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frapi07
Elite

Pat1991 wrote on August 12th, 2024 at 4:52 pm:


The seed is reassigned at the start of each round, isn't it?

No, the seed is not always regenerated after each spin. It depends on the slot or the provider. There are slots that save the seed and then there are slots that assign you a new seed when you close and reopen them. Can vary, at least that's how I found out. But it's really hard to find 100% information.

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gamble1
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frapi07 wrote on August 12th, 2024 at 7:06 pm:

No, the seed is not always regenerated after every spin. It depends on the slot or the provider. There are slots that save the seed and then there are slots that assign you a new seed when you close and reopen them. Can vary, at least that's how I found out. But it's really hard to find 100% information.

At crypto casinos you can also get a new seed for some games if you are unhappy with the current one for whatever reason

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slotliebe89
Elite
Pat1991 wrote on 12.08.2024 at 16:34: The seed is reassigned at the start of each round, isn't it?

If the bet from last time is saved when you restart the game, I assume it's the same seed. However, if the bet level has been reset to the default bet, I assume it's a new seed.

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frapi07
Elite
gamble1 wrote on 13.08.2024 00:43:

At crypto casinos you can also get a new seed for some games if you are unhappy with the current one for whatever reason

I assume it only works with the "originals", right? Because normal slot providers certainly don't offer this, so I haven't seen it yet.

slotliebe89 wrote on 13.08.2024 at 11:08 am:
When restarting the game, if the bet is saved from last time, I assume it's the same seed. However, if the bet level has been reset to the default bet, I assume it is a new seed.

That could well be the case. I've read that this can be the case with Pragamtic. The seed remains saved until they perform server maintenance. Bet etc. also remains saved.

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gamble1
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frapi07 wrote on August 13th, 2024 at 12:27 pm:
That could well be the case. I've read that it can be like that with Pragamtic. The seed remains saved until they perform server maintenance. Bet etc. also remains saved.

Yes, exactly right


I did some research and the seed is sometimes changed very differently, some do it at the start of the game, others after a certain time and there are even some that do it after deposits or payouts

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frapi07
Elite

gamble1 wrote on August 13th, 2024 at 2:07 pm:
Yes exactly right


I did some research and the seed is sometimes changed very differently, some do it at the start of the game, others after a certain time and there are even some who do it after deposits or payouts


yes, I had already thought of that ^^

Yes, I had almost figured that out too (except that the seed is changed on deposits/withdrawals). It's really interesting to know that the providers handle it differently.

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gamble1
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frapi07 wrote on August 13th, 2024 at 2:16 pm:

yes, I had already thought so ^^

Yes, I had almost figured that out too (except that the seed is changed on deposits/withdrawals). It's really interesting to know that the providers handle it differently.

I thought so too, but basically it's even good if it changes frequently, it would be bad if it wasn't changed because that would open the door to Manipulation

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