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Online Casinos in general: Where to complain about German regulatory authority (Page 8)

Topic created on 15th Dec. 2020 | Page: 8 of 11 | Answers: 105 | Views: 20,380
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u****n
Seniorfips wrote on 12/20/2020 at 3:44 pm
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First she's in "Britain", then suddenly she's in the US. First she preaches that all non .de casinos are illegal, now we have to show her ourselves the sources that give that away? So this is definitely just sick and a multiple personality disorder. Would let me times so slowly examined.

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Katharina2
Top Member
Seniorfips wrote on 12/20/20 at 3:44 pm
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Not at all, my friend: I am not a gambling addict, nor do I drink alcohol,
Drugs are alien to me and bad runs, I do not take out on users....
which is not something you can say about all gamers.... ne, that's how it is. Because it's Christmas
is: you can choose something...wouw...... And where is there besides pointless platitudes
about people you don't know, an answer to my question?
I tell you: there is none and it is not illegal. You can believe me, if
i would be the first not to do it. That's why I thought that
there was more to your hint. How could I....just keep your fingers still if you don't know
still if you have no idea and at least leave Christmas alone.
Thank you for your understanding and of course Merry Christmas 2020





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u****n
Catherine2 wrote on 20.12.2020 at 16:31
Not at all, my friend: I am not addicted to gambling, nor do I drink alcohol,
Drugs are alien to me and bad runs, I do not take out on users....
what you can not say about all players.... ne, that's how it is. Because it's Christmas
is: you can choose something...wouw...... And where is there besides pointless platitudes
about people you don't know, an answer to my question?
I tell you: there is none and it is not illegal. You can believe me, if
i would be the first not to do it. That's why I thought that
there was more to your hint. How could I....just keep your fingers still if you don't know
still if you have no idea and at least leave Christmas alone.
Thank you for your understanding and of course Merry Christmas 2020






And you just still do not understand anything 😂

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Julian
Elite
I ask you to return to the actual topic and to clarify your dispute privately via Communicator.

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Katharina2
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u****n
Still wondering what question?

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gamble1
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Matthlign wrote on 20.12.2020 at 15:13
Exactly the same, if a court would decide so and say that casinos would have to be subjected to the same regulations, the (possibly) coming law would be quite quickly no longer an issue and or completely revised
A Deposit limit to ensure better Player protection I could understand as a measure of the state
But everything that is currently happening simply has nothing to do with it, as you have already written, the state is trying to systematically destroy everything that is in private hands.
If you then consider that the EU has warned Germany several times, it can clearly only be about protecting its monopolies, not the players

If the law in its current form will be passed in 2021 (I am still of the opinion that it will not be so) one can only hope that the industry will quickly find creative solutions to circumvent the whole.

It is just extremely noticeable how much everything else is broken but at the same time is not banned what would be much easier for the state but why if you can take the little money anyway

It's all about the money otherwise another solution would be quickly found effective for player protection are individual deposit limits so that everyone can play but just as much as he can afford

And Gambling addiction does not distinguish whether you play online in casinos or in arcades or casinos but according to the state it is enough to restrict private Online Casinos and private offline arcades

Are the people bored they do not play there that is true but if there is an offer relatively area-wide in DE where as well as everyone can participate without much effort it is again illogical show me a protection system what a casino can show what an online casino or an arcade does not have or at least not so good and I'm quiet

But the simple answer is there is none because except to be locked have the nothing employees do not intervene in the game of the customers or at least only very sporadically what but in any case is not enough to make a difference

And the blocking let's be honest many gambling addicts are afraid of this step to set a limit is much easier there

Now you think maybe why is it easier to set a limit than to get banned ?

There is already one or the other point let's first take the facts

1) Gambling addicts are sick

2) Gambling addicts are not able to make rational decisions because of their illness

3) Gambling addicts are mostly afraid that it will come out and or do not admit it to themselves

4) There are also withdrawal symptoms with gambling addiction

Now the explanation someone suffers from gambling addiction and admits to himself I have a problem he knows he has to limit it but is afraid to get blocked because he knows exactly how dirty he feels when he can't gamble at all

So he goes to the online casino and sets a limit to fight his withdrawal symptoms in case of emergency without ruining himself he would never have let himself be locked in a casino because then he would have no possibility to gamble but should he be ready for this step at some point he can do it online as well

Or Hans Maier is a regular customer in the casino in Stuttgart has a problem with the game but does not want to lose face and would never be locked online would not be his face to assign there is the inhibition threshold set lower

These points speak certainly not for the majority of people but definitely for some

And everyone should have seen the moment when someone visits an arcade and gets locked and the employees let him sit with the form between all the other guests that is certainly not a nice feeling

Conclusion: Same as with Tr.5 in the arcades: protection yes please but then also so that it brings something !!!!

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g****a
gamble1 wrote on 20.12.2020 at 18:50
It is just extremely noticeable how much everything else is broken but at the same time is not banned what would be much easier for the state but why if you can take the little money anyway

It's all about money otherwise another solution would be quickly found effective for Player protection are individual Deposit limits so that everyone can play but just as much as he can afford

And Gambling addiction does not distinguish whether you play online in casinos or in arcades or casinos but according to the state it is enough to restrict private Online Casinos and private offline arcades

Are the people bored they do not play there that is true but if there is an offer relatively area-wide in DE where as well as everyone can participate without much effort it is again illogical show me a protection system what a casino can show what an online casino or an arcade does not have or at least not so good and I'm quiet

But the simple answer is there is none because except to be locked have the nothing employees do not intervene in the game of the customers or at least only very sporadically what but in any case is not enough to make a difference

And the blocking let's be honest many gambling addicts are afraid of this step to set a limit is much easier there

Now you think maybe why is it easier to set a limit than to get banned ?

There is already one or the other point let's first take the facts

1) Gambling addicts are sick

2) Gambling addicts are not able to make rational decisions because of their illness

3) Gambling addicts are mostly afraid that it will come out and or do not admit it to themselves

4) There are also withdrawal symptoms in gambling addiction

Now the explanation someone suffers from gambling addiction and admits to himself I have a problem he knows he has to limit it but is afraid to get blocked because he knows exactly how dirty he feels when he can't gamble at all

So he goes to the online casino and sets a limit to fight his withdrawal symptoms in case of emergency without ruining himself he would never have let himself be locked in a casino because then he would have no possibility to gamble but if he should be ready for this step at some point he can also do it online

Or Hans Maier is a regular customer in the casino in Stuttgart has a problem with the game but does not want to lose face and would never be locked online would not be his face to assign there is the inhibition threshold set lower

These points speak certainly not for the majority of people but definitely for some

And everyone should have seen the moment when someone visits an arcade and gets locked and the employees let him sit with the form between all the other guests that is certainly not a nice feeling

Conclusion: Same as with Tr.5 in the arcades: protection yes please but then also so that it brings something !!!!


Germany had to provide according to EU judgment for player protection, and it has done. One must consider also, if the whole one
is not absolutely in accordance with the law, I can sue the countries because of lost money. So it's not easy to do justice to the required
It's not easy to meet the demands of player protection, to meet the needs of gamblers, to meet the needs of gamblers who can't control themselves, and so on.

In gambling halls and casinos, employees are/should be trained to recognize problem gambling and, if necessary, to issue house bans
if necessary. If they do not do this, they have bad cards in case of a recovery. The state can't be everywhere, which is why I think the argument that casinos can do things differently is exaggerated. Casinos also have a duty of supervision.

Strangely enough, quite a few people smell a conspiracy of the state here, while online casinos thousands of kilometers away everything is
is believed, but that is another topic.

And also Katharina will have to accept that gambling is illegal, except in SH. And it doesn't matter where the current
License comes from. A look at the penal code will help

Also the amnesty for gamblers negotiated at state level has zero validity. The judiciary is/should be independent. Therefore, an
administrative process can never undermine a law.Speak:
An agreement of the countries is for the wastepaper basket. As long as the gambling paragraph exists, it can be applied.
Whether one understands that now, or not. Since no discussion helps, that is fact. One can inquire with each public prosecutor.
Whether is initiated, is another thing!

The EU has to do by the way with the whole zero. Why here still about the freedom to provide services is talked, although the
Player protection has a higher value, is a mystery to me. By the way, the EU also sees it this way. Link can be sent if needed.
By the way, Austria and Germany have this special status, that the player protection is above the freedom of services.
Otherwise the casinos would have sued successfully long ago. Why have they not done so in all these years?
Think about it

And last but not least, you can't complain about something that doesn't exist yet. Means in the reverse conclusion: you admit
that you gamble illegally, and you want to complain about it? Clever!

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Bockwurscht
Rookie
This regulation can only be welcomed. It is time that there is finally legal certainty and control.
Whether it is still fun remains to be seen, but I always find it amazing how OCs are defended.

I would like to see the one who shows his electricity bill in the casino, or is stalled for days on win, after he has submitted ten documents. Doubtful AGBs etc etc
It is really amazing what everything is accepted just to be able to gamble online.

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