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Online Casinos in general: Where is the best place to get your money back? (Page 4)

Topic created on 04th Apr. 2024 | Page: 4 of 4 | Answers: 54 | Views: 6,914
moralischverwerflich
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Where is the best place to get your money back?

8th Apr. 2024, at 08:45 am CEST#46
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Ich TrockenerZocker wrote on 04.04.2024 at 14:24: Hi, I've been reading one or two threads here for a few weeks now about getting money back from online casino losses. I've lost around 10,000 euros at two casinos in the last ten years. I also already have the Deposit lists. Now I wanted to hire someone to get the money back, but no site says how much % I have to pay in the end. Can anyone recommend something (based on their own experience)? I have heard that some people want 37%. Is that the best offer? Are the chances of getting the money back the same? I have also contacted one of the casinos and asked for an out of court settlement. I was told that it would be forwarded but I haven't heard from them since. Even after 2 more emails from me there was no reply. What happens if I give the order to a law firm and this casino is now prepared to settle out of court? Do I then have to give the lawyer another 37% of the money they offer me? Has anyone ever had a similar case? Are out-of-court settlements even a thing? Thank you for your help. Kind regards

Contact me by pn, I can give you a tip.

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Fortunateli
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Where is the best place to get your money back?

8th Apr. 2024, at 06:16 pm CEST#47
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morallyreprehensible wrote on 08.04.2024 at 08:45:
Get in touch with me via pn, can give you a tip.

I would like to join you... Because with everything that is currently demanded of us, I think I should put my "morally reprehensible" thoughts aside... So thanks in advance for a tip

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ExSpielsuchti
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Where is the best place to get your money back?

8th Apr. 2024, at 06:18 pm CEST#48
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What good will it do you to demand your money back? It will end up double and triple somewhere else, if you succeed at all

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frapi07
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Where is the best place to get your money back?

8th Apr. 2024, at 06:59 pm CEST#49
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ExSpielsuchti wrote on 08.04.2024 at 18:18: What good will it do you to demand money back? Will end up double and triple again somewhere else, if you should succeed at all

To generalize like that is nonsense. I am also an opponent of such actions, but OCs play dirty - why can't the player play dirty? If the player can reconcile this with himself - I don't see a problem with it. Even if someone loses three times as much in Las Vegas after a successful reclamation - his beer.

I for one will never claim something like that, even if I was -30k. I speculated on it and have to live with the consequences. That's how straight you have to be in life. Nobody will refund my money if I gamble it away on the stock market.

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reaggie
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Where is the best place to get your money back?

8th Apr. 2024, at 08:45 pm CEST#50
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frapi07 wrote on 08.04.2024 at 18:59:

To generalize like that is nonsense. I am also an opponent of such actions, but OCs play dirty - why can't the player play dirty? If the player can reconcile that with himself - I don't see a problem with it. Even if someone loses three times as much in Las Vegas after a successful reclamation - his beer.

I for one will never claim something like that, even if I was -30k. I speculated on it and have to live with the consequences. That's how straight you have to be in life. Nobody will refund my money if I gamble it away on the stock market.

Well, that's not true either. You can also offset share losses against tax under certain circumstances.

And you also invest in companies with a share. So there is an equivalent value that is not present in sports betting. After the game, you haven't bought a share in the company you bet on or on which you placed your bet. And there is also the chance to sue if your money has been lost through fraud. There have already been enough cases where the state has reimbursed part of the losses with taxpayers' money or invested taxpayers' money in insolvent companies by artificially prolonging their insolvency.

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frapi07
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Where is the best place to get your money back?

8th Apr. 2024, at 08:55 pm CEST#51
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reaggie wrote on 08.04.2024 at 20:45:

Well, that's not true either. Stock losses can also be offset against tax under certain circumstances.

And you also invest in companies with a share. So there is an equivalent value that is not present in sports betting. After the game, you haven't bought a share in the company you bet on or on which you placed your bet. And there is also the chance to sue if your money has been lost through fraud. There have already been enough cases where the state has reimbursed part of the losses with taxpayers' money or invested taxpayers' money in insolvent companies by artificially prolonging their insolvency.

The equivalent value of the sports bet is your bet (or your ticket). You bet 1.0 (your countervalue) and hope that you will then go out with odds X(>1.0). But that's not my point. My point is that you consciously accept the risk. It is the hope of making even more money out of money that drives you to "invest" or Risk money in both cases.

The possibility of suing the OCs exists because they were not 100% legal. They were tolerated (gray area). Is there this possibility with legal providers? Only if you were banned and they played you despite the existing ban. Stock exchange trading = legal and you cannot recover the majority of it in the event of a total loss. The same applies to the German booths - the exception, as you have already written, is that you cannot get your tax back here.

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n****4

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8th Apr. 2024, at 11:57 pm CEST#52
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The question is whether you could even get the money back at Platincasino because of the casino owner change and Curacao? I deleted my account because of the fraud

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reaggie
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9th Apr. 2024, at 12:14 am CEST#53
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It's all about Pokerstars and Bwin. So why Platincasino?

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Mister777

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2nd Jun. 2024, at 09:47 pm CEST#54
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Can anyone recommend a lawyer who specializes in this area and who might be close to Munich?

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moralischverwerflich
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2nd Jun. 2024, at 11:07 pm CEST#55
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needle34 wrote on 08.04.2024 at 23:57: The question is whether you could even get the money back at Platincasino because of the casino owner change and Curacao? I deleted myself there at the time because of the fraud

An acquaintance is also on Platin with a PKF, he was told it is not a problem.

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