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Online Casinos in general: What can happen to me I am afraid (Page 4)

Topic created on 28th Apr. 2020 | Page: 4 of 6 | Answers: 55 | Views: 25,164
RiverSong
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What can happen to me I am afraid

28th Apr. 2020, at 08:35 pm CEST#31
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Falko wrote on 28.04.2020 at 16:09: What still occurs to me that has received in the thread also still help from the GJ team, to what kind of lawyer she should turn to and she has then also done. But then she had to pay the lawyer and still she was ultimately quite satisfied, because the lawyer was really really good to her side.

now i know for sure who you mean and this person (if you have read my answer to your previous post here) has also not paid any penalty.

am also curious here whether you make the effort and link the associated part thread here?

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Slothot
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What can happen to me I am afraid

28th Apr. 2020, at 09:23 pm CEST#32
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Am a bit amazed. Have and had high turnover in OC's. In my live and online Poker time also about the order of magnitude

I never had any problems with my bank (Sparkasse and Consors)

As for "paying a penalty" I have expressed my legal opinion many times
In my eyes, playing in OC's is legal, since discrimination ban and freedom of services EU wide applies (TFEU). Means, the BGB with the invalidity of the bet, as well as the StGB with the participation in illegal gambling must step back.

When I received large amounts of money, I informed my advisor in advance and explained that the origin of the money (from abroad) would be verifiable
Never I had a demand...


But whether I'll ever get a loan for a house is another question 😅

Edit: For criminal liability times Malermeister, Blackjack and online casino google. Should come out a judgment of the LG Munich

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Anonym

What can happen to me I am afraid

28th Apr. 2020, at 09:36 pm CEST#33
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Slothot wrote on 28.04.2020 at 21:23
In my eyes gambling in OC's is legal, because prohibition of discrimination and freedom of services applies EU wide (TFEU). Means, the BGB with the nullity of the bet, as well as the StGB with the participation in illegal gambling must step back.

This is also true, but there is an exception in the gambling sector at the EU level
If, for example, the member state is of the opinion that gambling protection is not guaranteed and the state has the task of providing gambling protection, then the right of freedom of services must take a back seat to the right of gambling protection.

Unfortunately, the fact that this is not about game protection, but about maintaining a monopoly, does not change anything.

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Slothot
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What can happen to me I am afraid

28th Apr. 2020, at 09:44 pm CEST#34
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Ah, you see. I didn't know that, but it's been a few semesters...
Anyway, that's one of the reasons why we've been dilly-dallying for years and why the EU Court of Justice has repeatedly found that our gambling law (State Treaty) is not compliant. But I must honestly admit, I have never read the reasoning behind the ruling
But does not help OP yes further...

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Falko
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What can happen to me I am afraid

28th Apr. 2020, at 09:59 pm CEST#35
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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 28.04.2020 at 20:35
now i know for sure who you mean and this person (if you read my reply to your previous post here) didn't pay any fine either.

am also curious here if you make the effort and link the associated part thread here?

That is already times pleasing, that at least still one thus you in the forum found itself that can also remember this case and you are right a penalty did not have to pay it owing to the assistance of the lawyer. She only had to pay the lawyer's fees in the end, as a percentage of her win, these costs were calculated. Yes, that is how it was. Otherwise it is a 1000 pieces puzzle each puzzle piece is a thread. And there I would have to search every single thread to find the topic again

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derzweifel
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What can happen to me I am afraid

28th Apr. 2020, at 10:04 pm CEST#36
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Ajajme wrote on 28.04.2020 at 19:35
Hello yes this is also just my big concern, I go times tomorrow to a Vr Bank and try to open an account there.
The bank card is not so important for now much more important is to get his salary and other payments, I have to see if I can pay until then from the bank account of the partner all reminders, although I think loans must be paid from their own account, telephone, Insurance and the rest should not matter.
I am really curious what comes from the Commerzbank the sound on the phone so angry the branch manager and on my question whether it is about the sports betting he did so as if he had not yet looked at my account and then he said yes there are many deposits and withdrawals but more he can not say.
I get mail but I think not from them rather from the police or so well at least my partner knows and I am not completely alone in this difficult time.
I have found here in the forum also only one thread where it house searches etc hab because of this paragraph 285.
Then some say yes it comes someone I shit me in my pants and others say again if I believe the crap..I'm really miserable and thank you all who give me normal reasonable answers and build me something and wish me the best, because it is a disease and if you win you will be greedy the stakes and sales increase and you can see that then in the account movements.I hope that I then from tomorrow directly get an Iban on which I can redirect everything.
Many greetings

I can imagine that you feel sh.... and guilty, but before you make yourself smaller than you are also consider the following things

- The bank executes the transfers or has done so in the past (should not have done so, if applicable)
- Television stations radiate advertisement for Casinos from (they should not have made if necessary)
- The casino provides you with the platform, knowing which country you are from (they might not have been allowed to do this)

You may be suspected of money laundering (which is obviously not the case) and harsh procedures will be taken accordingly. At the end of the day, however, you did not launder money but simply gambled with your money in the casino - as I understand it, you do not have to go to jail for this, nor will your assets be confiscated or a fine imposed

The fact that you may have gone overboard and should think about your relationship with gambling is another issue

LG and feel free to keep us posted

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Falko
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What can happen to me I am afraid

28th Apr. 2020, at 10:09 pm CEST#37
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It was Jessbabe88. I found it here the link to the thread was even about 43 000 euros https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/rechtliche-probleme-bei-grosseren-gewinnen-24597/2/

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luan8888
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What can happen to me I am afraid

29th Apr. 2020, at 12:37 am CEST#38
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Ajajme wrote on 28.04.2020 at 20:14
Please write to me privately I have to wait a few days until I can write to you

I would be interested to know how much revenue you have made?
I find your story also somehow unbelievable

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A****e

What can happen to me I am afraid

29th Apr. 2020, at 12:38 pm CEST#39
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luan8888 wrote on 04/29/2020 at 00:37 PM
Would be interested to know approximately how much sales you made?
I find your story also kind of unbelievable

It was about 250000 in the last few months. And no I tell no fairy tales that can also testify to the admins.

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G****e

What can happen to me I am afraid

29th Apr. 2020, at 12:53 pm CEST#40
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Ajajme wrote on 29.04.2020 at 12:38 pm
It was about 250000 in the last few months..And no I'm not telling fairy tales the admins can attest to that as well.

Gambled away? Or all together payout and Deposit?

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