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Online Casinos in general: Warning from Wunderino - credit is not paid out / what can I do about it?

Topic created on 07th Nov. 2024 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 11 | Views: 174
frapi07
Elite
Hello everyone,

as some of you have already noticed in the "complainers' corner", I have been unable to Deposit or withdraw at Wunderino since July 2024.

It started with the Epic Tuesday offer. I took part in it and won around €17 from 10 FS. Since then I can no longer carry out a transaction.

Wunderino has not given me an official explanation for the restriction.

So far, I have continued to participate in the promotion and accumulated €45. Today I wrote to Wunderino (not the chat support) about the restriction.

The answer came very quickly. I was told the following:


"thank you very much for your message.

After careful consideration, we regret to inform you that these restrictions cannot be lifted at this time.

Please note that it is not necessary to contact us further on this matter.

If new information becomes available or your account status changes, we will contact you directly. "

In short, Wunderino will continue to not pay me the balance. They even specifically point out that I don't need to contact them about it.

GGL does not accept complaints regarding deposits and withdrawals.

What can I do about this? The only thing I can think of is legal action, but it's not really worth the effort for €50.

In any case, I can't make a recommendation. In any case, I wouldn't recommend depositing money there.



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Donnie
Elite
Years ago I was blocked from depositing at Energy Casino but not from withdrawing. I have no idea what they are snorting. They could just tell you that you've been blocked from Bonuses or they could just close your account. Let them say what problem they have, so stupid ey

I've been blocked for bonuses on several sites in my life. Most of them didn't give me a real reason, but you knew where you stood. I was once banned from NetBet and the guy in the chat said I was a bonus seeker. I deposited 6 times in 2 years, 4 of them with real money and used the Book of Dead bonus 2 times. I hardly played the Sunday free spins at the time and I never won anything really big there either. N1Bet banned me almost 2 months ago because I was supposed to have received too many bonuses, but I didn't have any payouts. The things they always come up with lassen🤦‍♂️

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Langhans_innen
Expert
Donnie wrote on 07.11.2024 at 15:39: I deposited 6 times in 2 years, 4 of them with real money and used the Book of Dead bonus 2 times.

It's no wonder you get into trouble if you only use real money four times out of 6 depositors and fake money twice Little fun...I already know what you mean: 4X raw cash and 2X with bonus

The fact that the shops block you for parts of the promotions or for Bonuses completely or even kick you out completely is also completely legitimate and a right of the providers, which is anchored in the terms and conditions. But then they can/must pay out the €17 or now €45 beforehand and then kick you out. Or they could at least give a reason for the alleged problem. But I don't understand it like that either.

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frapi07
Elite
Donnie wrote on 07.11.2024 at 15:39: At Energy Casino I was once blocked for depositors years ago but not for withdrawals. No idea what they are snorting. They could also just tell you that you have been blocked for Bonuses or they just close the account. Let them say what problem they have, so stupid ey

I have been blocked for bonuses on several sites in my life. Most of them didn't give me a real reason, but you knew where you stood. I was once banned from NetBet and the guy in the chat said I was a bonus seeker. I deposited 6 times in 2 years, 4 of them with real money and used the Book of Dead bonus 2 times. I hardly played the Sunday free spins at the time and I never won anything really big there either. N1Bet banned me almost 2 months ago because I was supposed to have received too many bonuses, but I didn't have any payouts. The things they always come up with lassen🤦‍♂️

Right, I also don't understand why they don't tell me anything. I suspect that it's because of Epic Tuesday, because I've only used this offer recently. I haven't done anything else, so it must be because of the bonus.

The funny thing is that I deposited there years ago. My first winning picture came from Wunderino (I had entered Unibet there). I continued to play there even after the win.


The bonus conditions for "Epic Tuesday" only state that you have to have deposited. No time period is specified there. As already mentioned, I fulfilled this condition years ago.

I think that they don't want to give me any information because I haven't violated any conditions and they have excluded me from this promotion without justification. I can still receive these spins, which shows that I have not actually abused this bonus.

It's awesome that Netbet is allowed to do this. But you were banned while your balance was €0, right? I was banned with a balance. That's quite a difference. With N1bet it was also completely unfair, but the Provider is not on the whitelist - so there's not much you can do about it. I think that you have more rights as a consumer with legal providers. But what I have noticed is that the providers can act as they please. Tipico bans players who win too much. I even know someone who was given an OASIS ban by Tipico. Yes, one provider blocked a player at OASIS because they had concerns. I wonder on what basis they are allowed to decide and do this.


Edit: Exactly right, Langhans. They can block me from the "Epic Tuesday" bonus, but not while I still have funds in my account and am not allowed to withdraw them

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gamble1
Icon
So let's summarize: You've had this problem since July, have never been given a reason for it, have only ever been put off and are now writing to them again. The answer you get is: "We've looked at everything, we know exactly what's going on, but we won't tell you. You still won't get your money and you won't find out why. Please don't write to us again! We'll just leave it until the inactivity fee has used up everything."

Honestly, even if it's not worth it, I would hand it over to a lawyer. If you get it right, they'll have to cover the costs anyway. Since you certainly haven't done anything illegal or violated the terms and conditions (otherwise they would have cited this as a reason long ago), you're very likely to win. In this way, you will help to show these providers how to act in a social and customer-oriented manner + and you will get your money back.

Don't get me wrong: if there is a reason that prevents payment or justifies the restriction, then that's fine. But then you should also communicate this. I can't, for example, let someone take part in a competition and then say: "Hey, you won, but you won't get the win. Why? I don't know, and don't ask any more about it." What kind of behavior is that? It sounds more like there's no reason at all.


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frapi07
Elite

gamble1 wrote on 07.11.2024 at 16:47: So let's summarize: You've had this problem since July, have never gotten a reason for it, have only ever been put off, and are now writing to them again. The answer you get is: "We've looked at everything, we know exactly what's going on, but we won't tell you. You still won't get your money and you won't find out why. Please don't write to us again! We'll just leave it until the inactivity fee has used up everything."

Honestly, even if it's not worth it, I would hand it over to a lawyer. If you get it right, they'll have to cover the costs anyway. Since you certainly haven't done anything illegal or violated the terms and conditions (otherwise they would have cited this as a reason long ago), you're very likely to win. In this way, you will help to show these providers how to act in a social and customer-oriented manner + and you will get your money back.

Don't get me wrong: if there is a reason that prevents payment or justifies the restriction, then that's fine. But then you should also communicate this. I can't, for example, let someone take part in a competition and then say: "Hey, you won, but you won't get the win. Why? I don't know, and don't ask any more about it." What kind of behavior is that? It sounds more like there's no reason at all.



To summarize correctly. Months ago, I only got a little hint from a support employee after asking. She said that the restrictions had been imposed on me because I had done something. She couldn't tell me exactly what. As I said, apart from logging in and using the weekly spins, I didn't do anything. Nor did I use any program or anything like that. No VPN, nothing that could justify a withdrawal from the bonus.

Here is an excerpt from the terms and conditions of Epic Tuesday.

frapi07


I also made the minimum deposits, I can even prove it. They were just 2021-22 and Wunderino belonged to someone else, but that doesn't matter. No period is mentioned and it also says that it is only available to players who have only made these 2 depositors. For players who do not meet this requirement, this bonus is not available.


I would also take legal action at the moment, but a) I don't have a lawyer and b) I don't have the time/nerves for it. I'm currently running from doctor to doctor. Yesterday again and again on Tuesday. I'm also currently dealing with various related documents and I'm also personally dealing with 2 minor problems. Without exaggerating, my summer consisted of waiting in the waiting room or being in hospital for an hour every day. All that with studying and working (even if it's 20 hours a week) - not easy to manage. But as soon as I have some time, energy and nerves for it, I'll look into it more. I had a look on Trustpilot earlier and there are a lot of negative reviews. Many are because of the losses, but well... Wunderino doesn't seem to be that good in general.

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Langhans_innen
Expert
No money, no information, no inquiries allowed. But the cash spins still work...that's a curious constellation

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frapi07
Elite

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Elite
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Langhans_innen
Expert
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frapi07
Elite

Langhans_innen wrote on November 07, 2024 at 5:30 pm:

that worked with the picture. I see the post...but have to approve it - probably because of the picture. Then it should be visible...Moment...

Thank you, I deleted the post because it's unnecessary^^ But yes, this should also prove that they really refuse to give me any information

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Langhans_innen
Expert

frapi07 wrote on November 07, 2024 at 5:31 pm:

Thank you, I deleted the post because it's unnecessary^^ But yes, this should also prove that they really refuse to give me any information

I also deleted my post because your quoted post was still there

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