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Online Casinos in general: Warning about WirWetten.com (Formerly Recommendation) (Page 49)

Topic created on 16th Oct. 2020 | Page: 49 of 156 | Answers: 1,551 | Views: 330,525
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himmel80 wrote on 05.01.2021 at 21:35

But why would a Provider offer and give away free spins if they want to scam other users?

So they probably want to attract new customers, so that there are more players with the same zip code, to tie them up afterwards bonus fraud because of own zip code and T&C violation.

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DerHamburger87
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A new user voices a complaint to wirwetten about possible bonus violation
No one knows the exact truth of the matter
Nevertheless, a momentum is developing against the Provider
There one sees times like much power the media have
(the user mentioned here is not even a newspaper)
Fraud accusations against wirwetten, one of the fastest providers in terms of payout, without complicated Verification
Incidentally, the only provider that gives away cash every week.

I do not know the terms and conditions exactly, but if in fact only one bonus per zip code zip code is possible, then these are just their terms and conditions. You can criticize them, but you shouldn't accuse the provider of fraud, and you should read the terms and conditions beforehand

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Olli_Eule
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Why would Bon1108 make that up.

i believe him. Good luck

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DerHamburger87
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himmel80 wrote on 05/01/2021 at 22:35: Why would Bon1108 make that up.

i believe him. Good luck

Can also be, but it is clear in the terms and conditions that all Deposit Bonuses including Wilkommensboni are limited to a zip code
Probably, these cases are rather rare here due to the fact that wirwetten is a small but established and good provider. In addition, many use the Provider without bonuses, not least because of the weekly free play action

That the TE wahrsch within his town or in the area of the zip code has used the bonus, after the bonus was used by another user in his locality is just as annoying as this bonus rule.
However, the casino is in the right here. It is clearly in the terms and conditions. The TE should have read these beforehand

In addition, wirwetten may not give out names oä or IPs from where the bonus was used. That something does not go for data protection reasons should be clear to everyone

Verzwickt is of course that the TE here gets no proof of where exactly the bonus was already used. That one feels cheated there I can understand. However, wirwetten is in the right. If the complaint is received by the competent body wirwetten will disclose the bonus violation and confirm to the body. Here you can only assume that ww is in the right, but it is due to the numerous positive experiences with the provider to assume



17. All deposit bonuses are limited to one bonus per person, family, IP address, home address, zip code, email address, phone number, same payment method (credit card or similar), shared computer such as at work and/or an internet cafe.

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DerHamburger87 wrote on 05.01.2021 at 22:56
Can also be, but it is clear in the terms and conditions that all Deposit Bonuses including Wilkommensboni are limited to a zip code
Probably these cases are rather rare here due to the fact that wirwetten is a small but established and good provider. In addition, many use the Provider without bonuses, not least because of the weekly free play action

That the TE wahrsch within his town or in the area of the zip code has used the bonus, after the bonus was used by another user in his locality is just as annoying as this bonus rule.
However, the casino is in the right here. It is clearly in the terms and conditions. The TE should have read these beforehand

In addition, wirwetten may not give out names oä or IPs from where the bonus was used. That something does not go for data protection reasons should be clear to everyone

Verzwickt is of course that the TE here gets no proof of where exactly the bonus was already used. That one feels cheated there I can understand. However, wirwetten is in the right. If the complaint is received by the competent body wirwetten will disclose the bonus violation and confirm to the body. Here you can only assume that ww is in the right, but it is due to the numerous positive experiences with the provider to assume



17. All deposit bonuses are limited to one bonus per person, family, IP address, home address, zip code, email address, phone number, same payment method (credit card or similar), shared computer such as at work and/or an internet cafe.

Let's face it. Aren't you already too stupid yourself when you write this? How should one know then, which humans from a postal zip code already played. The casino would be here itself in the duty to cancel the bonus when applying accordingly
I am also always a fan of first reading the terms and conditions before claiming a bonus or even depositing somewhere. In this particular case, I wouldn't have understood the zip code thing as being laid out for the player
I already know how many accounts I make myself at a casino and that it can lead to problems if I have more than one. I also know from which bank account I deposit, but please, I do not know if Mrs. Müller 10 streets away has already claimed the bonus
For this, it is really important that the casino is held accountable if they really mean it

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DerHamburger87
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After home address is zip code, just a comma away
Don't get me wrong, this bonus rule is really questionable. But it is anchored in the terms and conditions of wirwetten.com. Wirwetten is not a casino which scams and arbitrarily complicates payouts, so you can assume that this bonus violation is justified

A complaint to the licensing authority will be a weeks-long process. Eventually, wirwetten will explain the situation and prove both the use of your bonus and the use of the bonus by another user with your same zip code to the licensing authority.
You can assume with high probability that wirwetten is not making this up

On the other hand I know at such things why one should avoid the use evon Bonuses generally. Such a clause is also new to me

Get you aufjedenfall your Deposit again

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DerHamburger87
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Jokerboy wrote on 05.01.2021 at 23:16
Let's get real here. Aren't you already too stupid yourself when you write this? How are you supposed to know which person from a zip code has already played. The casino would be here itself in the duty to cancel the bonus when applying accordingly
I am also always a fan of first reading the terms and conditions before claiming a bonus or even depositing somewhere. In this particular case, I wouldn't have understood the zip code thing as being laid out for the player
I already know how many accounts I make myself at a casino and that it can lead to problems if I have more than one. I also know from which bank account I Deposit, but please, I do not know if Mrs. Müller 10 streets away has already claimed the bonus
For this it is really important that the casino is held accountable if they really mean it.

I have merely stated facts. That the casino should already cancel the bonus when applying is correct, however, you can not only call wirwetten here, I think with 90% of the providers comes the "rude awakening" only at the withdrawal request.

I also agree with you that casinos "in general" (not only wirwetten) should be held accountable for such kind of clauses or lines in the T&Cs. But that applies to many woolly, misleading and misunderstanding statements. Also that per zip code only one bonus is possible is a cheek.

But the fact is that he has violated the terms and conditions with great probability and the action of Wirwetten is therefore correct. A complaint will bring nothing, as well as a complaint about the terms and conditions will bring nothing. You agree to the terms and conditions when using the bonus. In retrospect, complain about something you have agreed to I think is pointless.
Sounds stupid, but the user should not have used the bonus, if he does not know whether in the area of his zip code the bonus has already used jmd. Wirwetten must assume that he knows

As for your general statement regarding scuriller AGBs and behavior of the casinos, I give you times so right. But that's a different beer

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