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Online Casinos in general: VPN Sunnyplayer (Page 3)

Topic created on 13th Jul. 2019 | Page: 3 of 4 | Answers: 31 | Views: 9,167
Anonym
Generally, you are not allowed to play in any OC from Germany at all, so the Merkur ban doesn't really bring anything either

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BUZZER2018
Rookie
I just took the time and asked in some of the casinos mentioned via chat how it looks with the use of VPN. Here in the forum was often to read that there are no problems at Lapalingo and sister casinos (LordLucky, Elcarado) if someone uses VPN and that this was also confirmed by the live chat. Meanwhile, it seems to be that this has changed. Both at Elcarado and Lapalingo they clearly advised me in the chat not to use VPN. At sunmaker, however, it was different. They told me in the chat that from Sunmaker's point of view there was no reason to prohibit the use of VPN (quote from the chat: "We are of the opinion that the use of a VPN connection is not illegal"). However, they could not give me any legal information regarding the use of VPN. VPN are legal (in DE), so I think that they write that with the legal information because the use of Online Casinos in DE (except SH) is not legal anyway. If I would ask in the chat "Can I play as a DE player at Sunmaker for real money" would certainly also come the information "Yes we accept players from DE but a legally binding statement I can not make this unfortunately" . Or similar Conclusion: At Lapalingo and sister casinos I would not gamble with VPN as of 01.12.2019. And at Sunmaker or anywhere else either (unless it is clearly in the AGB's that the use of VPN is allowed) A chat statement is simply too uncertain for me. I'm not like many others about the danger that when paying out large wins problems could occur (these are rather unlikely for me because I usually play only with small stakes), I'm more about the fact that I do not want my account is blocked (regardless of which casino).

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MarcT22186
Expert
BUZZER2018 wrote on 01.12.2019 at 00:06 clock: I just took the time and asked in some of the casinos mentioned via chat how it looks with the use of VPN. Here in the forum was often to read that there are no problems at Lapalingo and sister casinos (LordLucky, Elcarado) if someone uses VPN and that this was also confirmed by the live chat. Meanwhile, it seems to be that this has changed. Both at Elcarado and Lapalingo they clearly advised me in the chat not to use VPN. At sunmaker, however, it was different. They told me in the chat that from Sunmaker's point of view there was no reason to prohibit the use of VPN (quote from the chat: "We are of the opinion that the use of a VPN connection is not illegal"). However, they could not give me any legal information regarding the use of VPN. VPN are legal (in DE), so I think that they write that with the legal information because the use of Online Casinos in DE (except SH) is not legal anyway. If I would ask in the chat "Can I play as a DE player at Sunmaker for real money" would certainly also come the information "Yes we accept players from DE but a legally binding statement I can not make this unfortunately" . Or similar Conclusion: At Lapalingo and sister casinos I would not gamble with VPN as of 01.12.2019. And at Sunmaker or anywhere else either (unless it is clearly in the AGB's that the use of VPN is allowed) A chat statement is simply too uncertain for me. I'm not like many others about the danger that when paying out large wins problems could occur (these are rather unlikely for me because I usually play only with small stakes), I'm more about the fact that I do not want my account is blocked (regardless of which casino).

Cool that you have made the effort, amazing that the views of the casinos go so far apart.

What would be interesting with sunmaker times, what would happen if one tunnels for example over the USA on their side. I do not know their current terms and conditions exactly, but the USA will certainly be in the restricted list

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v****2
so if it is not forbidden in the terms & conditions...
but in most cases it is...in my experience
according to
if still someone wants to play with vpn without paying money
just check out the opera browser...
here is a free vpn feature

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MarcT22186
Expert
vomvom12 wrote on 01/12/2019 01:10: so if it's not prohibited in the terms & conditions...
but in most cases it is...in my experience
according to
if nevertheless someone wants to play with vpn without paying money
just check out the opera browser...
here is a free vpn feature

It will be for sure because these play cherry things don't have a license. That would be a legal question. In the USA gambling without a US license is completely banned. Means also as a German you are not allowed to play there
Therefore, it would be interesting what would come in combination with the sunmaker statement about it rum.

I personally find playing with VPN always a bit risky and have seen too many negative examples in Poker, e.g. failure of the VPN while the game is running or jumping VPN endpoint. If sunmaker allows it and it is in the terms and conditions or not you can do it. If it is prohibited, it would at least be interesting to know what would happen. Does Merkur freeze the wallet or does sunmaker refuse the payout in case of doubt?

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v****2

MarcT22186 wrote at 01:45, 2019 Dec 01
It will pretty sure because these Play Cherry things have rather no license. That would already be a legal question. In the US, gambling without a US license is completely banned. Means even as a German you may not play there
Therefore, it would be interesting what would come in combination with the sunmaker statement about it rum.

I personally find playing with VPN always a bit risky and have seen too many negative examples in Poker, e.g. failure of the VPN while the game is running or jumping VPN endpoint. If sunmaker allows it and it is in the terms and conditions or not you can do it. If it is prohibited, it would at least be interesting to know what would happen. Does Merkur freeze the wallet or does sunmaker refuse the payout in case of doubt?

so I play now for a good 1.5 years only rarely

poker but vpn was actually banned in every poker room
to prevent collusion

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bruffl
Expert
for all who are interested.
On Discountfan.de there is, I think only today, an offer
for VPN over cyberghost for 15 months for 29€.
The good thing about it, you get a 35€ voucher from Amazon on top
So arithmetically a win of a few euros.
I posted here times the link, I hope that is allowed.


https://www.discountfan.de/artikel/news/knaller-15-monate-vpn-fuer-29-euro-mit-amazon-gutschein-ueber-35-euro

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Cubey
Top Member
I think it's a shame that Merkur and Novos can no longer gamble online from Germany hope there will soon be ne change in the law...

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Falko
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Cubey wrote on 01.12.2019 at 11:22: I find it very sad that you Merkur and Novos can no longer gamble online from Germany hope it will soon ne change in the law...

At sunmaker and sunnyplayer you can still play Merkur and get no problems when you make a withdrawal. I play the slots there for years with VPN and there are no problems. Of course, they can not tell you yes you may, but if you read the first post here then you see that it is not forbidden there. I have paid out there umpteen times and except Merkur I play in the two casinos nix other.

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Emx81
Top Member
Spiele da auch immer.mit vpn und der ein oder andere macht auch keine Probleme, wobei die merkur laufen nicht so besonders. Whether with or without.
Had a deal for lifetime ivacy vpn about 25€

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