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Online Casinos in general: Videoslots and the RTP value (Page 7)

Topic created on 11th Aug. 2019 | Page: 7 of 16 | Answers: 157 | Views: 44,577
Zwischenmeister
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Videoslots and the RTP value

17th Aug. 2019, at 08:24 am CEST#61
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snopsim wrote on 08/16/2019 at 10:36 pm
Thanks for the good explanation

But unfortunately the good explanation is not good, it is just wrong. Neither the amount of the Deposit nor what he calls net profit there have anything to do with the RTP 🤦♂️

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Zwischenmeister
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Videoslots and the RTP value

17th Aug. 2019, at 08:27 am CEST#62
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Kleinkariert wrote on 08/16/2019 at 10:18 pm


2nd wins

Any win no matter how big added up. Simplest way: turnover - Deposit = total winnings

3. Calculation

So let's assume one has deposited 10 €, 50x on 1 € can turn until one was on 0 €. Total winnings to make this possible are 50x turned to 1 € = 50 € minus the deposit of 10 € = 40 € (<- total winnings).

Now divide the total winnings by the turnover: 40 € / 50 € = 80% RTP (even though you didn't pay out anything!). Unfortunately, this is often confused with the deposit and withdrawal ratio.

(Overall, the RTP does not show how high your personal chance is to win big there, it only shows what the total loss is on average and mostly this is triggered by small wins with which you can spin 3-5x more often e.g. because 2 Scatters pay out a win)

How the hell do you think that the RTP has anything to do with how much you deposited or the amount of your net win?

Do you want to explain the big bang to us? Because I guess from astrophysics you have also no idea at all...

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Zwischenmeister
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Videoslots and the RTP value

17th Aug. 2019, at 08:32 am CEST#63
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Liquid wrote on 08/16/2019 9:48 pm: You just don't get what rtp means do you?

Once again: Make several thousands of spins write it down and compare you will more or less come to the rtp. (More or less because it needs more spins to be really accurate)

But this is the most awesome. So you really think that if you do only enough spins on such a thing, that you will really get exactly the given percentage when you do the math?

Sorry, but I think YOU just don't get what RTP and especially what RNG means....

But go on babbling stupidly to other people. In technical jargon this is called the Dunning-Kruger effect...

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Liquid
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Videoslots and the RTP value

17th Aug. 2019, at 08:57 am CEST#64
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Hey meister.. Master! XD

You but yourself here rumbelbelst without what witty to contribute to the topic

Merkste yourself nh?

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erich1966
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Videoslots and the RTP value

17th Aug. 2019, at 09:11 am CEST#65
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Hello all!
Attached is the "LINK" to a page where it is explained exactly what the "RTP value" actually means.

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bruffl
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Videoslots and the RTP value

17th Aug. 2019, at 09:29 am CEST#66
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Zwischenmeister wrote on 08/17/2019 08:32 AM
But this is the most awesome. So you really think that if you just do enough spins on something like this, that you'll really come up with the exact percentage stated when you do the math?

Sorry, but I think YOU just don't get what RTP and especially what RNG means....

But go on babbling stupidly to other people. In technical jargon this is called the Dunning-Kruger-Effect...

I think he just wanted to say that in this case it was his personal RTP.

Of course you have to differentiate, the personal RTP will rarely match your own.
In the average RTP also a full screen with the highest symbols, a Jackpot or something else is included
Dolles with included.

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Kleinkariert
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Videoslots and the RTP value

17th Aug. 2019, at 09:42 am CEST#67
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Zwischenmeister wrote on 08/17/2019 08:27 AM
Where the hell do you get the idea that RTP has anything even remotely to do with how much you deposited, or the amount of your net profit?

Do you want to explain the big bang to us? Because I guess from astrophysics you have also no idea at all...

Did you understand rudimentarily what the explanation was about? Did not expect so vien incompetence, the amount of the Deposit has nothing to do with the RTP and is not said by me.

But if you deposit 10 euros and can press 50 times on 1 € before you fall to 0 € the total winnings must be 40 € otherwise you can not press 50x. And that is the turnover! In other words, the wager.

The only thing you do is to chat up others and explain that they don't understand ed. Then explain how the RTP which stands for example at Videoslots under MyRTP comes about. I mean stake and total winnings do not seem to be correct in your opinion, so all casinos also calculate incorrectly... the calculate your history through where these values stand...

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Timo0510
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Videoslots and the RTP value

17th Aug. 2019, at 09:52 am CEST#68
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Hahaha, and the next thread toogemüllt with insults and lower class level duels.Give it to you!

Keep it up guys !

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Kleinkariert
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Videoslots and the RTP value

17th Aug. 2019, at 10:59 am CEST#69
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Timo0510 wrote on 08/17/2019 09:52: Hahaha,and the next thread zugemüllt with insults and lower class level duels.Give it to you !

Keep it up guys !


If the own explanation is constantly presented without counter explanation as wrong one feels bit verapfelt.

erich1966 wrote on 08/17/2019 09:11: Hello everyone!
Attached is the "LINK" to a page where exactly is explained what the "RTP value" actually means exactly.

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And that's exactly how I explained it, I'm quoting from the page:


RTP is calculated from the following formula: Total Player Winnings/Total Stake Value.


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bruffl wrote on 08/17/2019 09:29 AM
I think he was just saying that in this case that was his personal RTP.

Sure you have to differentiate there, the personal RTP will rarely match your own.
In the average RTP is yes also times a full screen with the highest symbols, a Jackpot or what other
Dolles with included.


It is the calculation of a personal RTP of any person, so the RTP is generally displayed at Videoslots under MyRTP. The game RTP is the payout of the game and this can be higher than 92% per year for example 96% per year. To be on the safe side most games are a good bit above that. But this is an average value, if a player spins once in the casino and doesn't win, then never plays again, he will never reach the 92% per year and the casino can hardly force him to play. Therefore, players can also come under 92%, others come then just much higher and so it is then also balanced.

In the game RTP is also nothing included, that is rotated about 1 billion times and the information is also verified. If a game has several RTP possibilities (e.g. with Super Bet, ...) this must all be checked separately. A casino can demand a corresponding test report from the slot Provider if it wants to, but in practice this will rarely happen.

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Anonym

Videoslots and the RTP value

17th Aug. 2019, at 01:08 pm CEST#70
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Liquid wrote on 08/16/2019 9:48 pm: You just don't get what rtp means do you?

Once again: Make several thousands of spins write it down and compare you will more or less come to the rtp. (More or less because it takes much more spins to be really accurate).

Boy... that's like talking to a wall

You can also explain it normally without immediately someone stupid or stupid represent!


Not everyone understands the RTP!

Questions arise and that should be able to answer as an adult objectively!

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