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Online Casinos in general: Videoslots and the RTP value (Page 16)

Topic created on 11th Aug. 2019 | Page: 16 of 16 | Answers: 157 | Views: 45,007
Saphira
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Videoslots and the RTP value

19th Oct. 2020, at 11:50 pm CEST#151
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ChillEffect wrote on 10/19/2020 at 7:54 pm: That's right of course unicorn

But others condemn me for it etc
But I eigtl no matter. Let everyone just believe what he wants.

But now you have actually (accidentally?) Agreed with all who do not share your opinion

It's logical that you have a better chance to win if you play/roll more. Just like you have greater chances of a coked foot if you traipse into a bonfire with it often enough. But RTP is still Provider-bound

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Common1608
Rookie

Videoslots and the RTP value

20th Oct. 2020, at 11:16 am CEST#152
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But probability calculation works only THEORETICALLY
Let's take the very simple coin toss, actually a 50:50 thing, in other words, you would have to get heads every 2nd time according to the calculation made by some here. But is not possible, because the coin has no memory. So if the coin doesn't know whether heads or tails came before, how should it do it ANOTHER way in the next attempt?

This is also how machines work in OC's.... Of course you have a much higher probability if you toss the coin 20 times, but you have no guarantee or claim. With each throw, the coin decides anew or the slot...

Correct me please if I have said something wrong

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u****n

Videoslots and the RTP value

20th Oct. 2020, at 11:25 am CEST#153
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Common1608 wrote on 20.10.2020 at 11:16 am: But probability calculation works only THEORETICALLY
Let's take the very simple coin toss, actually a 50:50 thing, in other words, you would have to get heads every 2nd time according to the calculation set up by some here. But is not possible, because the coin has no memory. So if the coin doesn't know whether heads or tails came before, how should it do it ANOTHER way in the next attempt?

This is also how machines work in OC's.... Of course you have a much higher probability if you toss the coin 20 times, but you have no guarantee or claim. With each throw, the coin decides anew or the slot...

Correct me please if I have said something wrong

Can't quite compare to slots in OC, because those slots have to have a memory to ensure their RTP. But that doesn't mean that you have to win at some point if you lose all the time, because someone else can win instead. This is because the RTP is Provider-based and does not refer to your personal account or IP.

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Common1608
Rookie

Videoslots and the RTP value

20th Oct. 2020, at 11:49 am CEST#154
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unicorn wrote on 20.10.2020 at 11:25 am
Just can't quite compare to slots in OC, because those very slots have to have such a memory to ensure their RTP. But that doesn't mean that you have to win at some point yes if you lose all the time, because someone else can win instead. This is because the RTP is Provider-based and does not refer to your personal account or IP.

These slots have a memory, yes! But on their server and not on your PC or? So theoretically they would not care how much you have played and when
Sure, the machine has a RTP to which it adheres, but that is not player-related but refers to the device if I understood correctly...

So it should rather be called "Return to Community"

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u****n

Videoslots and the RTP value

20th Oct. 2020, at 12:21 pm CEST#155
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Common1608 wrote on 20/10/2020 at 11:49 AM
Those slots have a memory, yes! But on their server and not on your PC or? So theoretically they wouldn't care how much you played and when
Sure, the machine has a RTP to which he adheres, but it is not player-related but refers to the device if I understood correctly...

So it should rather be called "Return to Community"

yep, you got it all right

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NoSkill_NoKill
Experienced

Videoslots and the RTP value

13th Mar. 2021, at 12:55 am CET#156
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Slots have no memory just like Roulette or a coin toss. No matter how many people turn before or after you. It does not affect the result which is then shown as an animation on the display. These are all just myths

The only thing they have programmed, more rivets than wins. And the frequency of the wins with those x factors determines the Variance

The only question that arises to me but after how many rounds of the RTP will now take hold of eg. 96%. Regardless of the variance of the game.

No stochastic experts here?

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Anonym

Videoslots and the RTP value

13th Mar. 2021, at 11:03 am CET#157
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DerJaeger2019 wrote on 13.03.2021 at 00:55: The only question that arises for me but after how many rounds of the RTP will now take hold of zb. 96%. Regardless of the Variance of the game.

That is always dependent on the variance. Generally, the more spins, the closer and more stable you get to the mathematical RTP. If you are interested in the variance of slots, look at the data of weekly Videoslots tournaments. They have 1000 or more players spinning every 100 rounds with the same bet. The score, or RTP, is listed. That's a much better sample than you can get on your own. Get the data and plot it on a graph. RTP on the X-axis and number of players on the Y-axis. What does the curve look like then? Do most players end up ahead or behind the RTP? Are the extremes evenly distributed or are there more unlucky losers than winners etc

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NoSkill_NoKill
Experienced

Videoslots and the RTP value

13th Mar. 2021, at 04:02 pm CET#158
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Kanalmalocher wrote on 03/13/2021 at 11:03 AM
It always depends on the variance. Generally, the mahr spins, the closer and more stable you get to the mathematical RTP. If you are interested in the Variance of slots, look at the data of the weekly Videoslots tournaments. They have 1000 or more players spinning every 100 rounds with the same bet. The score, or RTP, is listed. That's a much better sample than you can get on your own. Get the data and plot it on a graph. RTP on the X-axis and number of players on the Y-axis. What does the curve look like then? Do most players end up ahead or behind the RTP? Are the extremes evenly distributed or are there more unlucky losers than winners etc

At 100,000 spins you definitely don't get to the average rtp yet.

Not even at 200,000

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