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Online Casinos in general: Veluste reclaim possible (Page 6)

Topic created on 15th Dec. 2018 | Page: 6 of 8 | Answers: 72 | Views: 30,748
sippi
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15th Dec. 2018, at 11:58 pm CET#51
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Unbeliver wrote on 12/15/2018 at 11:38 pm
Your money, what do you do with it when lung cancer takes you?
Ok it was just a rhetorical question but in the USA a lot of smokers got high compensation from the producers because they were misled or nobody told them what the effects are...
This is not morally reprehensible and courts have decided this.
Maybe I'm seeing it a little wrong or I'm missing the point of view of someone who has real problems with the consequences of his gambling addiction. I
n my opinion, however, the casinos and manufacturers have far too few obligations and really only have to cash in...can certainly be done better.

But it is absurd to claim that people do not know that smoking is harmful. And that is so probably also only with the Amis. And I think that the state does not have to take adult people by the hand. Addicted or not. Everybody is responsible for himself. Every adult person can think for himself. You just can't be responsible for all people, or regulate these things. Otherwise we are still with fat notes on lighters that the flame on the skin can make bad ouch ouch. After all, there could be someone in the world who doesn't know any better and thus needs to be protected from himself. In my opinion casinos should be from 18 (better still from 21) and control that. But that should be it. Who is addicted and still gambles, smokes, drinks, injects, speculates - whatever, has just had bad luck. They can help themselves if they want to. There are enough offers.

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Anonym

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15th Dec. 2018, at 11:59 pm CET#52
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snippy wrote on 15/12/2018 at 23:49
Why exactly is the wirholendeingeld.de offer supposed to be criminal?
I know first hand that it worked. Sure it costs something. And of course you can maintain an account and sign contracts normally.
To scare people here now may be criminal.

It will hardly be criminal if a court decides so, you can find it reprehensible but spoken law is anything but criminal.

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tontoo2
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15th Dec. 2018, at 11:59 pm CET#53
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snippy wrote on 15/12/2018 at 23:49
Why exactly is the wirholendeingeld.de offer supposed to be criminal?
I know first hand that it worked. Sure it costs something. And of course you can maintain an account and sign contracts normally.
To scare people here now may be criminal.

Simply because the same mindset as Curacao casinis with fake slots behind it.
At the moment, this possibility exists, but if the backlash follows, and it will follow, the operators with their 35% + VAT are long gone and the louses who have retrieved a few thousand are left out in the cold.

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s****y

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16th Dec. 2018, at 12:01 am CET#54
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tontoo2 wrote on 12/15/2018 at 23:59
Quite simple because same mindset as Curacao casinis with fake slots behind it.
Right now that possibility exists, but when the backlash follows, and it will follow, the operators will be long gone with their 35% + VAT and the louses who got a few thousand back will be left out in the cold.

There I can agree with Unbeliver. If a court decides so, what should be criminal about it? You simply twist the facts here, too bad.

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tontoo2
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16th Dec. 2018, at 12:07 am CET#55
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snippy wrote on 12/16/2018 at 00:01 AM
I can agree with Unbeliver on this one. If a court decides like that, what's criminal about it? You are just twisting the facts here, too bad.

If a court decides like that? Ridiculous. Tomorrow comes the next court with exceptions and so two, three little things. You have to be very idiotic to mess with banks because of a few thousands that you have gambled away and your back is not against the wall, your existence is ruined

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16th Dec. 2018, at 12:08 am CET#56
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sippi wrote on 12/15/2018 at 23:58
But it is already absurd to claim that you do not know that smoking is harmful. And that is so probably only with the Yanks. And I think adult people do not need to take the state by the hand. Addicted or not. Everybody is responsible for himself. Every adult person can think for himself. You just can't be responsible for all people, or regulate these things. Otherwise we are still with fat notes on lighters that the flame can make bad ouch ouch on the skin. There could be finallyschließli in the world, who does not know better and so must be protected from themselves. In my opinion, casinos should be from 18 (better still from 21) and also control that. That should be then but also been. Who is addicted and still gambles, smokes, drinks, injects, speculates - whatever, has just had bad luck. They can help themselves if they want to. There are enough offers.

But we were talking about cases that started smoking in the 50s and 60s, and the health aspects were sold a little differently.... These are the cases that I know of. Since it is virtually known that smoking is harmful, there are no more recognized cases, at least none that I know of. To take by the hand I have a slightly different opinion, ask a few heroin addicts how it came to this, mostly started in youth and did not know what the consequences are and that's why it is also forbidden, most of those die quite early because there is no real therapy except substitute drugs, there are exceptions but most do not manage to get rid of it and then just do not get old because the organism does not endure so long. I also say that everyone has a certain personal responsibility but especially when gambling there is simply too little protection and too few obligations for the casinos and manufacturers. The recently pronounced penalties of the UKGC speak their own language and many casinos that operate only with the license of Malta are far from such a level. Much more could be done.

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16th Dec. 2018, at 12:09 am CET#57
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tontoo2 wrote on 12/16/2018 at 00:07 PM
When a court rules like this? Ridiculous. Tomorrow comes the next court with exceptions and so two or three small things. You have to be of a very idiotic disposition to mess with banks because of a few thousands you gambled away and your back is not against the wall, your existence is ruined.

Whether tomorrow another court comes and another exception or another judgement falls has with Kriminell now what exactly to do?
As I said, you can find it reprehensible but with criminal that has exactly nothing to do!

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s****y

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16th Dec. 2018, at 12:10 am CET#58
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tontoo2 wrote on 12/16/2018 at 00:07 PM
When a court rules like this? Ridiculous. Tomorrow comes the next court with exceptions and so two or three small things. You have to be very idiotically inclined to mess with banks because of a few thousands you gambled away and your back is not against the wall, your existence is ruined.

Said tontoo, representative of the banking lobby
And banks also have to abide by laws, whether you like it or not.

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tontoo2
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16th Dec. 2018, at 12:14 am CET#59
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Unbeliver wrote on 12/16/2018 at 00:09 PM
Whether tomorrow another court comes and another exception or another verdict falls has to do with criminal now what exactly?
As I said you can find it reprehensible but with criminal has exactly nothing to do!

Criminal. Said sentence refers to an open guilt. It is pretended to be able to post back payments retroactively for 3 years without consequences.

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tontoo2
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16th Dec. 2018, at 12:16 am CET#60
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snippy wrote on 12/16/2018 at 00:10 PM
Said tontoo, representative of the banking lobby
And banks have to abide by laws too, whether you like it or not.

Sure they do. But banks can also deny services. And then what? 35% + VAT to go through three instances to open an account?

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