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Online Casinos in general: Unbelievable what happened to me today. Indication/evidence of fraud found?

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Anonym

Unbelievable what happened to me today. Indication/evidence of fraud found?

7th Nov. 2018, at 02:59 am CET#1
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Hello people

I tried the new game Book of Adventure today.

Here is what happened.

I started with about 320 euros. Right away the first spins I got free spins
Did not pay really well. Shortly after, about 20 spins later I got free spins again. The same again after about 40 spins.
I still thought, he does not pay much in the free spins but at least they came times. My account balance was then at 408 euros.

Have then continued to play and only at about 260 euros have come again free spins. But nothing worked and the screen was frozen. So I reloaded the page. However, the free spins did not start and my account balance was at 320.
I thought now the difference would be the win from the free spins
Again only a small win. Right after that the free spins came again, about 20 spins later the free spins came again. And 40 spins later the free spins came again.

Played down again to 250 and again the game stuck.

I reloaded and my balance was back up to 320.
Now it was clear to me that something could not be right.
Again came exactly at 315 euros the free spins. Again after 20 and then after 40.

Was on 408 and have reloaded the page.
My account balance again on 320.
Since I now knew that at 315 the free spins come I switched higher to 10 euros.
And indeed. The free spins came again. And with the same exact same symbols as before. He has counted here but only wins as if I would play on a euro bet as before.

ALL spins during the free spins and up to the free spins were exactly the same images.

I am then completely out of the game and my actual balance was at 266. Back in the game and suddenly he has then the real free spins requested.


But do you understand what happened?


Apparently I got into the preset program over and over again. Which would mean that all spins were preset from the beginning.

I had as a thought at the beginning, he often gives free spins, probably to bait me. Then I thought again, oh no, you're lucky, each spin is random.

After this experience I am no longer so sure.
Or how else can you explain it?


And somehow it became clear to me in a flash how the hare really runs.
Bod I had already unconsciously somehow noticed that there is something wrong

Who does not know it?
Mostly eats the slot 40 to 50 times the bet, then come free spins, he pays times 60. You play again times 50 down and free spins run in again
Then at some point the slot stops and it only eats down.

For me, clearly an indication that the spins are predetermined. It could be fixed from the beginning when you start the game, when you get free spins, how much he pays, what is maximum level and from when he only takes.
So similarly as yes free spins could work the slots also altogether.
With free spins it is in such a way, as soon as one has received them the win is already certain, only the pictures are still indicated to it around it exciting to make.
Exactly according to the principle could also work the entire slot.
Let's stay with Bod, you get free spins and the next 10 spins are already set.
What if I start Bod and the next 100 (1000,....) spins are already set in normal mode?


Anyway, I can't explain what happened with Book of Adventure otherwise.
Seems at least to me like the developers were pretty sloppy and so involuntarily gave me an insight into how the slot actually works.

Or how can it be that (about 200-300 spins) exactly the same images come and that over and over again, every time I reloaded the page?

It was an error that always brought me back to the initial system, to the start. All spins completely identical.



What do you say about the whole thing?

Please remain objective.

I would be happy to have it explained to me logically how else this came about.

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Unbelievable what happened to me today. Indication/evidence of fraud found?

7th Nov. 2018, at 08:23 am CET#2
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That sounds very strange. For me, this seems more like this function in some slots, where spins are repeated in case of an error/crash
This would at least be indicated by the fact that the increase of the bet had no effect on your win. You said yes despite increase he has calculated with the 1€ stake from before. So if your session was predetermined, then the images would be the same, but you could easily increase your bet. How else should the slot know which spin you do with which bet.
Of course the whole thing seems strange. Almost as if the slot aborts and then jumps back to a certain state when restarting. This state should lie if then shortly before the crash. If I understood correctly, it was at the beginning of your session. As if it did not find another restore point. So after the motto "And daily greets the groundhog" he then repeated the complete session out of another problem
I don't see an indication that all spins are predetermined. But I believe you that it seemed very spooky. Did you by chance make a video of it?

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P****R

Unbelievable what happened to me today. Indication/evidence of fraud found?

7th Nov. 2018, at 08:26 am CET#3
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without even having read the article:

congratulations for the possible realization and welcome to life

...where people increase their own capital by winning a part of other people's money, where the possibility exists

(no offense. i really don't mean any harm. but with the best will in the world, i will never be able to understand how one can Risk one's precious money in games where the stake is one's own financial monetary value and where the independence of the random result is not comprehensible to me beyond any doubt, or how one can seriously assume independent chance)

always reminds me of the "hot button" back then at 9live and similar tv shows, where for 0,49€ you had the chance to win a valuable object or mostly of course money. of course, as you know, it could strike at any moment due to the random generator. comparison is a bit lagging with the modern spots, but the principle remains mMn the same.

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K****t

Unbelievable what happened to me today. Indication/evidence of fraud found?

7th Nov. 2018, at 12:13 pm CET#4
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I'm not surprised.

Have you tried logging out, deleting all browser data and then restarting completely?
It would be interesting to know if it continues like this.

It would also be interesting to know how slots "remember" what you played before a crash or closing of the slot, i.e. that you slip back into the free play session. Actually, every time you load a new slot, you enter a new session. You don't actually play at a slot that is physically present.
That would not be feasible if thousands of players were playing at the same time on Twin Spin, for example, or somewhere else.

So you get into a new session when you load in, and still the free spins or uncashed wins continue from where you left off.
How exactly this works would be good to know.

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Anonym

Unbelievable what happened to me today. Indication/evidence of fraud found?

7th Nov. 2018, at 12:46 pm CET#5
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Coffee Light wrote on 11/07/2018 at 12:13 pm: Doesn't surprise me.

Have you tried logging out, clearing all browser data and then restarting completely?
Would be interesting to know if it continues like this then.

It would also be interesting to know how slots "remember" what you played before a crash or closing of the slot, i.e. that you slip back into the free play session. Actually, every time you load a new slot, you enter a new session. You don't actually play at a slot that is physically present.
That would not be feasible if thousands of players were playing at the same time on Twin Spin, for example, or somewhere else.

So you get into a new session when you load in, and still the free spins or uncashed wins continue from where you left off.
How exactly this works would be good to know.

Is saved, so so-called bonus hunts are also possible - this always happens when the session is canceled and not properly terminated. This is done by IDs that are assigned to the sessions, each spin is saved and the case of Random is probably a special one here. Because it should not be so and there you could now investigate what went wrong.

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Anonym

Unbelievable what happened to me today. Indication/evidence of fraud found?

7th Nov. 2018, at 12:51 pm CET#6
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Very curious your session. In any case, only one action (this can be a spin or a sequence of images as in Reactoonz etc.) may be stored for the repetition, i.e. the last spin, the FS or any other bonus and then must be received again for each further action via the RNG.
What happened to you can only be a serious software (programming) error or there is really something wrong. That he repeats several times so many spins, which is not intended so brings mMn SLogic in a state of emergency

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K****t

Unbelievable what happened to me today. Indication/evidence of fraud found?

7th Nov. 2018, at 12:54 pm CET#7
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Ankor wrote on 07/11/2018 at 12:46 PM
Is saved, so so called Bonus Hunts are also possible - this happens whenever the session is aborted and not ended properly. This is done by IDs assigned to sessions, each spin is saved and the case of Random is probably a special one here. Because it should not be so and there you could now investigate what went wrong.

Sure, but since you enter a new session, that would mean that only this one situation (i.e. free spins or unclaimed wins before termination) would be inserted into the new session somehow.
By new session I mean that you are connected to a new gameplay of the corresponding slot.
Every player who plays a slot has his own slot on which he plays. And every time a new slot is loaded, you have another session, so to say another slot.
Otherwise, person A, for example, could not get a win x1000, while person B gets nothing or only x20, if they play at the same time.

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Unbelievable what happened to me today. Indication/evidence of fraud found?

7th Nov. 2018, at 01:05 pm CET#8
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At the moment the following always happens to me with White Rabbit. When the game is running well, it suddenly freezes. Everything freezes. Strangely, always when it runs well in the free spins, and only when you have very good free spins. It always takes a while until you can reload and then it runs the other way around. Mega bad. Even have a video of it somewhere.

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Anonym

Unbelievable what happened to me today. Indication/evidence of fraud found?

7th Nov. 2018, at 02:29 pm CET#9
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I would be reset exactly to the state when I started
So even before my first spin and exactly with my starting balance.


I have read here that a user who had complained to the support once that he does not win, the support has recommended him a certain game and he then actually won there. Would also explain a lot.


Yes, the game has kept me in an infinite loop.


This experience has now ruined my desire to play properly.
I already have with Extra Chilli almost clear evidence that it does not run on the random principle. This has confirmed me again and put the crown on the whole thing.


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K****t

Unbelievable what happened to me today. Indication/evidence of fraud found?

7th Nov. 2018, at 02:32 pm CET#10
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Random wrote on 07/11/2018 at 14:29: I would be reset exactly to when I started
So even before my first spin and exactly with my starting balance.


I read here once that a user who had complained to the support once that he did not win, the support recommended him a certain game and he then actually won there. Would also explain a lot.


Yes, the game has kept me in an infinite loop.


This experience has now ruined my desire to play properly.
I already have with Extra Chilli almost clear evidence that it does not run on the random principle. This has confirmed me again and put the crown on the whole thing.



Is yet my talking.

I had received such a recommendation before, and lo and behold, I won 122 euros with 30 cents

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