Yes, the thinking error is that you might never have lasted as long as you did with 10 euro spins until the win. Always assuming a x1000 win is relatively optimistic
It is only an example, with a x100 or x50 it would be the same ratio...
And alone I have only 1/5 of the bankroll games but also only 1/5 of the bet amount, but in case of a win I don't have to divide by 5. Bankroll - stake ratio would be the same, so that is with the perseverance also no argument
Theone87 wrote on 03/26/2019 6:39 PM
That's exactly how it is. Unfortunately I have jitters to bet directly a few hundred on a game, strangely enough with slots but you gamble such sums down more often... actually stupid, but it's entertainment.
Calculate times 100 € bet on odds 1.2 which is relatively safe in a home game on the favorite as a win goes out are 120 € without tax calculated. Do the whole 10 times and you have over 600€ out (if you always go all in), then you pull 500€ out into your own pocket and start again from scratch..
You can also f**k up 1.2 odds but is rather unlikely if you do not just exotic leagues or amateurs tippst
You would probably be limited by the Provider with max 10 € bet ... I was limited at tipico after I have cleared once big. Is already 6-7 years ago.
I think you have a wrong idea of betting. I have played 7 years. Of these 3 for fun actually only football and 4 professional tennis (currently break).
A 1.20 odds in football means nothing absolutely nothing! Only that a team is the clear favorite (before the game!)
No matter how much football knowledge you have, small odds never bring a win!
You have to hit 6 out of 7 and have 20% win and there will be 2 wrong. Completely no matter who is playing.... no matter what country no matter what league.
Good form ends, luck disappears .... and you are on it with a lot of money.
I have read some books on this and there are few möglichkeits to make money with football.
Valuebets in larger number, goal bets (live), in play bets when the initial small odds (eg your 1.20 rises to 1.45).
In the end, football is luck or to play Real with ner 1.07 odds on 1000, - with heart attack Risk at 0:0 in minute 80
From fraud in football you do not need to talk further......
If you want to earn something then you play sports where there are no draws and penalties.
(Badminton, table tennis, or tennis etc.)
what came to my mind once Simon... wanted to Deposit with nem buddy together somewhere with min 100% bonus. And then put directly on 5€ and see if what comes, so we have instead of playing individually a higher bankroll and can better survive lean periods. Will do the weekend also (actually planned for some time)
Because of this, I then came to mind that the whole thing to expand even larger, let's say to 10-20 players and each gives 200 € Then but without bonus at 20 players are then 4000 € then you can also make higher than 5 € Bets.
Hook at the thing is of course someone to find about the everything should run, as an example simply one of the Gamblejoe team also everything on video records. Ok in the case of a win, you can then simply split the coal or is there then problem for money laundering? Are there taxes? Is this unfair competition if it is officially run by gamblejoe? Would have to be made unofficially and privately by someone so that is reasonably clean.
Is just an idea, represents many hurdles but quite absurd I find it not.
It think you?
Even if I would rather poke myself in the eye with a pointed stick than participate - I think it's a great idea. If one considers, how many users go steeply already with a 10'er Paysafecard, then I hope with the amounts suggested here on maximum amusement. Then not only one bear will tap.
Stromberg wrote on 03/26/2019 at 22:01: A question times to understand :
Example:I play alone and pay 200 euro, then bet 2 euro per spin, no more, because I already want to be able to make a few spins.
To be able to make higher spins and also to survive lean periods I do together with 4 others, all pay 200 and we have now a 5x higher bankroll and can make 10 euro - spins without directly to busten....
Now we hit a x1000 win when we still have 500 euros and decide to pay out the 10500 €. So everyone gets 2100 €. If I had played alone with my 200 euros and 2 euros per spin I would now still have 100 euros + the x1000 win =2100 €.
I do not see the difference now, or do I have a thinking error?
That's what I thought too....
You must manage to get the Multiplier of the bet, compared to the single game, higher than that of the players who come to it.
then you slowly come into the plus and in addition your basic bet should increase while the number of players decreases
If you take 250€ and spin 2€ and have a x1000win you will get 2000€
With two players a 250€ and 5€ spins, the multiplier of the round bet is X2.5, but that of the players only x2 and you have with the same hit 500€ more
With four players a 250€ and 10€ spins nothing changes and with a x1000 win again only everyone gets 2500€ as the basic stake must increase again, e.g. 300€ each and 12€ spins to increase the win....
So there what profitable to tinker right is not so easy
And above all, the motto is not the more people the better.
One could perhaps with few people, perhaps 3 or maximum 4, something gambling and speculating.
Instead of playing e.g. 200€ alone on 2€ one could take 3x200€, play the first 50 spins on 1€ or less and as soon as one notices the phase, in which many books rattle past and one simply has the feeling now perhaps something could happen, for some rounds directly on 10, 12 or 15€ to set and to hope that the feeling was correct. Very speculative and as always just a matter of luck but so you can clear nen really neat win and am the tactics already driven alone a few times....and sometimes you're lucky and sometimes you're unlucky
But ifs there then times scheppert and one has zb x1000 at 15€ instead of 2€ with 3 man stand 2000€ against 5000€ win.
If it does not work at 150 € again on 1 € and try to come back to the beginning and the same game from the beginning
I find ne cool idea, privately we have done that in the circle of friends very often
The advantage of the thing with the higher stakes is that significantly fewer players play on the bet and thus increases the probability for you to get a high multiplier.
Even if you know each other from the forum possibly longer, I think that the fewest, without a hedge, would get involved in such an action.
I think it could only work if the participants Deposit the money with the Gamblejoe team.
Then the person over whose play account (naturally verified and at least times a payout transacted) that is to run, stretches the amount deposited with Gamblejoe and transfers it to its account. Makes a live stream on, no plan zb Twitch, where all participants, live are there and can co-determine and chat at the same time. Since every gambler would like to trigger the turn button himself, you could also say that everyone can connect to the computer of the person with the game account via Teamviewer, etc. and may press half an hour even from home.
Thought I try times nen small game plan for the topic to work out, as one could possibly implement
Well What do you say?
One thing I have to say, I've been through a few threads and I've noticed that it always comes down to the fact that instead of concrete suggestions or examples on the topic, a discussion is started about it not being worth it, or who has the better idea of how online slots work. I think we are all aware that we can't really influence which winning picture will appear on a spin
So have a good time and good luck to all of you
But if it should not be worthwhile nevertheless actually then discussions about it are not wrong nevertheless and how should one make then suggestions?
There is a Spielaltaktik in the room where you just have to look, can due open or not and does it pay off
To do this, you have to go through some processes and calculate through and if the bottom line comes out the same as I would play the bet alone, then you can save any risks bzgl eg the players, unless you do it with friends or so and can still gamble yourself.
Ultimately, no one says simply the idea is ansich shit but there is just such a lot to consider and some ways in which it does not work
And again to your statement the chances of a big win increase because not so many gamble but only one, I somehow do not quite understand. I think there haste nen Gedankendreher in it or I have misunderstood. Rise would the but if 5 people a 200€ each for himself zocken, eg all book of dead on 2€ and then say what comes at the end of rum is divided. If 4 f**k up and one runs really well and creates at the end of the session x1000 or maybe even more, then everyone has his stake back out or just maybe win. One buys reinsurance at the expense of the distribution. If it runs at two is of course more beautiful, etc
You misunderstood me or I may not have presented it in enough detail.
I meant all members/players of an online casino and the most common stakes with which they play (and these are now in most cases the low stakes).
Small example:
25 players are online.
20 of them play with a stake of 1€. Thus, the random generator gets a request from 20 players at the same time and let's assume that exactly this spin is the BigWin. So now one of the 20 players will get the BigWin in the round and the others go empty. The probability for each player that he gets the BigWin is 5%, since these 20 players make up 100% of a bet of 1€ on the bet amount (100/20=5)
Now to the 5 players who are also still online, but spin at a bet of 5€. On the bet, the 5 players make up the 100% and when the random generator pays out the BigWin for the round, each individual player has 20% to be the lucky one.
But I hardly think you can calculate that way. There haste again nen gedankendreher in it ^^ because your calculation refers only to your team and presupposes nen bigwin yes more or less by you 100% hitquote simply on your players divide.
And say everyone has 5% or 20% chance of nen bighit. By the way, your team is not the only one playing so you would have to distribute the percentages to ALL requests the game receives.
Of course your chance to get a big hit increases the bigger your team gets. The actual chance of one, but gives you only the automat before and you unfortunately do not know. What if Book of dead has just freaked out and has dealt in net hour 1000 full screens rich wild 5000 full screens with the pharaoh's head and whatever else and thinks all clear....cashed, cashed, cashed...Now briefly freaked out...rtp fits again....and then you come with your team full of expectations and anticipation to the work and you do not even manage a x100 or x50 win?
Do you know what I mean?
Ultimately, you can turn it around as you want or can maybe create trends or screw something on opportunities or hedges rum what the misery then but mostly just pulls out something....Are you not at the right time in the right place with the right commitment, in the end, no matter how many players or how much capital, everything will be gone. As usual ^^
I have somewhere once ne beautiful sentence read, believe even here somewhere....lose is the normal state and you do not shake it so easily
Even though I'd rather poke myself in the eye with a pointy stick than participate - I think it's a great idea. Considering how many users already go steep with a 10's Paysafecard, I hope for maximum amusement with the amounts proposed here. Then not only one bear will tap.
I just almost the snot flew out of my nose from laughing hahahahaha
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It is only an example, with a x100 or x50 it would be the same ratio...
And alone I have only 1/5 of the bankroll games but also only 1/5 of the bet amount, but in case of a win I don't have to divide by 5. Bankroll - stake ratio would be the same, so that is with the perseverance also no argument
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I think you have a wrong idea of betting. I have played 7 years. Of these 3 for fun actually only football and 4 professional tennis (currently break).
A 1.20 odds in football means nothing absolutely nothing! Only that a team is the clear favorite (before the game!)
No matter how much football knowledge you have, small odds never bring a win!
You have to hit 6 out of 7 and have 20% win and there will be 2 wrong. Completely no matter who is playing.... no matter what country no matter what league.
Good form ends, luck disappears .... and you are on it with a lot of money.
I have read some books on this and there are few möglichkeits to make money with football.
Valuebets in larger number, goal bets (live), in play bets when the initial small odds (eg your 1.20 rises to 1.45).
In the end, football is luck or to play Real with ner 1.07 odds on 1000, - with heart attack Risk at 0:0 in minute 80
From fraud in football you do not need to talk further......
If you want to earn something then you play sports where there are no draws and penalties.
(Badminton, table tennis, or tennis etc.)
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Even if I would rather poke myself in the eye with a pointed stick than participate - I think it's a great idea. If one considers, how many users go steeply already with a 10'er Paysafecard, then I hope with the amounts suggested here on maximum amusement. Then not only one bear will tap.
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That's what I thought too....
You must manage to get the Multiplier of the bet, compared to the single game, higher than that of the players who come to it.
then you slowly come into the plus and in addition your basic bet should increase while the number of players decreases
If you take 250€ and spin 2€ and have a x1000win you will get 2000€
With two players a 250€ and 5€ spins, the multiplier of the round bet is X2.5, but that of the players only x2 and you have with the same hit 500€ more
With four players a 250€ and 10€ spins nothing changes and with a x1000 win again only everyone gets 2500€ as the basic stake must increase again, e.g. 300€ each and 12€ spins to increase the win....
So there what profitable to tinker right is not so easy
And above all, the motto is not the more people the better.
One could perhaps with few people, perhaps 3 or maximum 4, something gambling and speculating.
Instead of playing e.g. 200€ alone on 2€ one could take 3x200€, play the first 50 spins on 1€ or less and as soon as one notices the phase, in which many books rattle past and one simply has the feeling now perhaps something could happen, for some rounds directly on 10, 12 or 15€ to set and to hope that the feeling was correct. Very speculative and as always just a matter of luck but so you can clear nen really neat win and am the tactics already driven alone a few times....and sometimes you're lucky and sometimes you're unlucky
But ifs there then times scheppert and one has zb x1000 at 15€ instead of 2€ with 3 man stand 2000€ against 5000€ win.
If it does not work at 150 € again on 1 € and try to come back to the beginning and the same game from the beginning
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The advantage of the thing with the higher stakes is that significantly fewer players play on the bet and thus increases the probability for you to get a high multiplier.
Even if you know each other from the forum possibly longer, I think that the fewest, without a hedge, would get involved in such an action.
I think it could only work if the participants Deposit the money with the Gamblejoe team.
Then the person over whose play account (naturally verified and at least times a payout transacted) that is to run, stretches the amount deposited with Gamblejoe and transfers it to its account. Makes a live stream on, no plan zb Twitch, where all participants, live are there and can co-determine and chat at the same time. Since every gambler would like to trigger the turn button himself, you could also say that everyone can connect to the computer of the person with the game account via Teamviewer, etc. and may press half an hour even from home.
Thought I try times nen small game plan for the topic to work out, as one could possibly implement
Well What do you say?
One thing I have to say, I've been through a few threads and I've noticed that it always comes down to the fact that instead of concrete suggestions or examples on the topic, a discussion is started about it not being worth it, or who has the better idea of how online slots work. I think we are all aware that we can't really influence which winning picture will appear on a spin
So have a good time and good luck to all of you
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There is a Spielaltaktik in the room where you just have to look, can due open or not and does it pay off
To do this, you have to go through some processes and calculate through and if the bottom line comes out the same as I would play the bet alone, then you can save any risks bzgl eg the players, unless you do it with friends or so and can still gamble yourself.
Ultimately, no one says simply the idea is ansich shit but there is just such a lot to consider and some ways in which it does not work
And again to your statement the chances of a big win increase because not so many gamble but only one, I somehow do not quite understand. I think there haste nen Gedankendreher in it or I have misunderstood. Rise would the but if 5 people a 200€ each for himself zocken, eg all book of dead on 2€ and then say what comes at the end of rum is divided. If 4 f**k up and one runs really well and creates at the end of the session x1000 or maybe even more, then everyone has his stake back out or just maybe win. One buys reinsurance at the expense of the distribution. If it runs at two is of course more beautiful, etc
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You misunderstood me or I may not have presented it in enough detail.
I meant all members/players of an online casino and the most common stakes with which they play (and these are now in most cases the low stakes).
Small example:
25 players are online.
20 of them play with a stake of 1€. Thus, the random generator gets a request from 20 players at the same time and let's assume that exactly this spin is the BigWin. So now one of the 20 players will get the BigWin in the round and the others go empty. The probability for each player that he gets the BigWin is 5%, since these 20 players make up 100% of a bet of 1€ on the bet amount (100/20=5)
Now to the 5 players who are also still online, but spin at a bet of 5€. On the bet, the 5 players make up the 100% and when the random generator pays out the BigWin for the round, each individual player has 20% to be the lucky one.
I hope I could explain how that was meant
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And say everyone has 5% or 20% chance of nen bighit. By the way, your team is not the only one playing so you would have to distribute the percentages to ALL requests the game receives.
Of course your chance to get a big hit increases the bigger your team gets. The actual chance of one, but gives you only the automat before and you unfortunately do not know. What if Book of dead has just freaked out and has dealt in net hour 1000 full screens rich wild 5000 full screens with the pharaoh's head and whatever else and thinks all clear....cashed, cashed, cashed...Now briefly freaked out...rtp fits again....and then you come with your team full of expectations and anticipation to the work and you do not even manage a x100 or x50 win?
Do you know what I mean?
Ultimately, you can turn it around as you want or can maybe create trends or screw something on opportunities or hedges rum what the misery then but mostly just pulls out something....Are you not at the right time in the right place with the right commitment, in the end, no matter how many players or how much capital, everything will be gone. As usual ^^
I have somewhere once ne beautiful sentence read, believe even here somewhere....lose is the normal state and you do not shake it so easily
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I just almost the snot flew out of my nose from laughing hahahahaha
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Or ihhh...I'm whipping with disgust
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