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Online Casinos in general: These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020 (Page 6)

Topic created on 05th Oct. 2020 | Page: 6 of 17 | Answers: 160 | Views: 41,253
sippi
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These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020

9th Oct. 2020, at 10:48 am CEST#51
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Falko wrote on 09.10.2020 at 04:33 clock: Then would but the vast majority here, only Deposit in casinos that have a Malta license, but no German ? I think so, because who wants to do that so voluntarily.

If that should still be possible, then that would only go to those where there is no extra page for Germans. With LordLucky, for example, it would no longer be possible, you would then be forwarded to .de.

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Stromberg
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These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020

9th Oct. 2020, at 10:56 am CEST#52
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Falko wrote on 09.10.2020 at 04:33 clock: Let's assume that only casinos this whole operational changes as described here at LordLucky are licensed in Germany so also introduce and all other casinos that do not apply for this license, there everything remains the same without, for example, this 5 second rule between each spin at the slot. Then would but the vast majority here, only Deposit in casinos that have a Malta license, but no German ? I think so, because who wants to do that so voluntarily. So the big brand casinos like Tipico, bwin, etc. must be aware of what is thereby lost in regular customers and sales. So I'm already thinking about where I will continue to play later and where I will definitely not play anymore.

The only question is whether the legal situation will not change as soon as there are German licenses or a regulated German market, and playing in unlicensed casinos is then still possible or tolerated...

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Max1303
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These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020

9th Oct. 2020, at 11:09 am CEST#53
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Stromberg wrote on 09.10.2020 at 10:56 am
The only question is whether the legal situation will not change as soon as there are German licenses or a regulated German market, and gambling will then continue to be possible or tolerated in unlicensed casinos...

This will not be possible. People from the UK can no longer play in casinos without a UK license. This will be the case for German games at the latest when the German license actually exists. But that will still take time.

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These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020

9th Oct. 2020, at 11:44 am CEST#54
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Falko wrote on 09.10.2020 at 04:33 clock: Let's assume that only casinos this whole operational changes as described here at LordLucky are licensed in Germany so also introduce and all other casinos that do not apply for this license, there everything remains the same without, for example, this 5 second rule between each spin at the slot. Then would but the vast majority here, only Deposit in casinos that have a Malta license, but no German ? I think so, because who wants to do that so voluntarily. So the big brand casinos like Tipico, bwin, etc. must be aware of what is thereby lost in regular customers and sales. So I'm already thinking about where I will continue to play later and where I will definitely not play anymore.

The OCs with only Malta license will hardly be callable from Germany or you will be redirected to the German domain. This is also the practice in many other countries that issue their own licenses.

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These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020

9th Oct. 2020, at 12:52 pm CEST#55
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First of all, there must be a contract / a law which regulates all these points and even if we are close to the "transition period", I'm still not convinced (which does not mean that I think it's all a fairy tale) that the states can really agree until mid-2021 or will agree at all
That only times so at the edge

As for the accessibility of casino's without a German license, there is on the one hand the possibility to work with VPN
However, even that only times so on the sidelines
Personally, I'm not sure whether Germany would go so far or whether it would be before the Federal Court of Justice, Person X would sue against it, would exist, because we are talking about a "censorship of the Internet" and that in Germany
However, this is just a question I ask myself, no statement that it will not happen, not that someone misunderstands me and I'm torn here equal in the air. 😅

As for the payment service providers, I'm also not sure that Germany would find a way to stop it altogether, that it would really no longer be possible to Deposit in casinos without a German license

Last but not least, don't forget that the Slot machine manufacturers and the Spielotheken Verband have been creatively circumventing the German laws for years, finding gray areas.
There are always ways and means

Therefore I am curious how and what will really come out in the end with the whole thing
However, I'll say it again, these are just thoughts about it, not definitive statements about what will or won't happen

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Kleinkariert
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These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020

9th Oct. 2020, at 01:14 pm CEST#56
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Matthlign wrote on 09.10.2020 at 12:52 pm: First of all, there must be a contract / a law which regulates all these points and even if we are close to the "transition period", I'm still not convinced (which does not mean that I think it's all a fairy tale) that the states can really agree until mid-2021 or even agree
That only times so at the edge

As for the accessibility of casino's without a German license, there is on the one hand the possibility to work with VPN
However, even that only times so on the sidelines
Personally, I'm not sure whether Germany would go so far or whether it would be before the Federal Court of Justice, Person X would sue against it, would exist, because we are talking about a "censorship of the Internet" and that in Germany
However, this is just a question I ask myself, no statement that it will not happen, not that someone misunderstands me and I'm torn here equal in the air. 😅

As for the payment service providers, I'm also not sure that Germany would find a way to stop it altogether, that it would really no longer be possible to Deposit in casinos without a German license

Last but not least, don't forget that the Slot machine manufacturers and the Spielotheken Verband have been creatively circumventing the German laws for years, finding gray areas.
There are always ways and means

Therefore, I am curious how and what will really come out in the end with the whole thing
However, I say it again, these are just thoughts about it, no definite statements what will or will not happen.

There is already a law that has to be worked out and confirmed. The points in it have also changed extremely several times. Just deposit limit of 1000 € should not apply to some players if they have sufficient funds and no signs of Gambling addiction (how to check this is on another star). It was also already introduced that you have to have 1 hour break to gamble sports betting wins at the casino or vice versa. In addition, there should be a setting where from a certain amount of the balance is automatically paid out. Even funnier is the planned panic button, which should be placed easily accessible (everywhere where you can play) so that you are immediately locked after pressing 24 hours.

Otherwise you underestimate what is possible. VPN you can do, but there are casinos that point out with large wins then you have played with VPN and therefore the winnings are canceled. Has already happened and is guaranteed to happen with large wins, so rather dangerous with a few serious exceptions that will probably have a German license.

Payment providers can be made to comply with legal requirements, which then works through the banks that make it more difficult for the payment providers. Well visible in the fact that not everyone can use Trustly, if the bank no longer participates. E-wallets that do not comply are then put on a Blacklist of the bank. This is all already possible and is partly practiced.

The censorship of illegal content is allowed, this is already happening today with sites on which you can watch illegal streams or purchase prohibited goods. Most sites then reappear under a new domain, but that is then a cat-and-mouse game. It would have no problem in front of the BGH.

The only thing that is true is that the lobby of the gambling industry is very powerful, at the latest when Merkur and Novo are officially online again for DE, the laws will blur again. One tries to bring now by hard rules all to the agreement, one has already seen first weakenings and exceptions. I think that some rules will hold, but other things will be loosened.

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Katharina2
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These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020

9th Oct. 2020, at 01:21 pm CEST#57
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Matthlign wrote on 09.10.2020 at 12:52 pm: First of all, there must be a contract / a law which regulates all these points and even if we are close to the "transition period", I'm still not convinced (which does not mean that I think it's all a fairy tale) that the states can really agree until mid-2021 or even agree
That only times so at the edge

As for the accessibility of casino's without a German license, there is on the one hand the possibility to work with VPN
However, even that only times so on the sidelines
Personally, I'm not sure whether Germany would go so far or whether it would be before the Federal Court of Justice, Person X would sue against it, would exist, because we are talking about a "censorship of the Internet" and that in Germany
However, this is just a question I ask myself, no statement that it will not happen, not that someone misunderstands me and I'm torn here equal in the air. 😅

As for the payment service providers, I'm also not sure that Germany would find a way to stop it altogether, that it would really no longer be possible to Deposit in casinos without a German license

Last but not least, don't forget that the Slot machine manufacturers and the Spielotheken Verband have been creatively circumventing the German laws for years, finding gray areas.
There are always ways and means

Therefore I am curious how and what will really come out in the end with the whole thing
However, I'll say it again, these are just thoughts about it, not definitive statements about what will or won't happen.

Your thoughts in all honor.....but Germany mixes up the game scene at present
incl. payment providers and leans a little too far out of the window, because just
The latter are not the vicarious agents for D and if they litigate against D because of the
because of failure of their services, not only Corona becomes expensive. And all this only because
Lower Saxony sees it that way for D and, because we have a monopoly culture, which in the end will be
must be enforced by hook or by crook, no matter what comes along. The dangerous thing:
that the GlüStV is 'waved through' by the EU. All this has little to do with VPN
and car manufacturers and Co&KG. It now depends on the players, how they accept and handle the situation
accept and handle the situation. There are solutions for everything and they will come automatically.

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Kleinkariert
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These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020

9th Oct. 2020, at 01:24 pm CEST#58
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Katharina2 wrote on 09.10.2020 at 13:21
Your thoughts in all honor.....but Germany is currently mixing up the game scene
incl. payment providers and leans with it a little too far out of the window, because just
The latter are not the vicarious agents for D and if they litigate against D because of the
because of failure of their services, not only Corona becomes expensive. And all this only because
Lower Saxony sees it that way for D and, because we have a monopoly culture, which in the end will be
must be enforced by hook or by crook, no matter what comes along. The dangerous thing:
that the GlüStV is 'waved through' by the EU. All this has little to do with VPN
and car manufacturers and Co&KG. It now depends on the players, how they accept and handle the situation
accept and handle the situation. There are solutions for everything and they will come automatically.

I doubt that a mob of gambling addicts will revolt against it. And the GlüStV is not yet finished, there are still points being negotiated.

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Anonym

These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020

9th Oct. 2020, at 01:34 pm CEST#59
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By the way, we still haven't received any news from the big casinos. They don't give a shit whether Germany gets it regulated or not. It would be to D's advantage if it didn't drive the regulations too extreme. This is a good market for the Maltese and D could profit
The protection of the public (player protection) should normally always come first. Look around, it didn't work for years. One has managed to regulate arcades. The end of the song, you can see. Many are starving, because it is simply no longer interesting for the players. The online business, they will do with such a contract, as it is provided, just as kaputt
So I wouldn't want to have to wait 30 minutes for a Deposit of 20 EUR and just 10 minutes of playing time

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Katharina2
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These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020

9th Oct. 2020, at 01:45 pm CEST#60
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Kleinkariert wrote on 09.10.2020 at 13:24
I doubt that a mob of gambling addicts will revolt against it. And the GlüStV is not yet finished, there are still points being negotiated.

I did not say anything about gambling addicts and meant all gamblers. You can not
all people who play games in their spare time under general suspicion.
From a fiscal point of view, I can still understand the measures taken by the state when
he takes action against for him 'illegal casinos', only that he obliges payment providers,
which have no legitimacy whatsoever to collect data from private citizens,
goes too far and makes neither Holland, Austria or Switzerland so. You can go
Casinos ...yes, ....they can do something for gambling addicts...yes, but they can
not make payment providers their accomplices and force players in D,
for something they (almost) can't show: Casinos. They have to
wait and build, only if you do not meet the standstill period, chaos threatens and
D players, I fear, will gallantly implement the European, even with GlüStV 2021.
We are not yet in China

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