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Online Casinos in general: The random lie (Page 5)

Topic created on 28th May. 2018 | Page: 5 of 8 | Answers: 76 | Views: 24,134
Knochen
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The random lie

2nd Jun. 2018, at 04:24 pm CEST#41
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stkrie wrote on 02/06/2018 at 16:15: But it is without further ado possible that tens of millions around the world lose every day?
So this is your Random Number Generator?
Preprogrammed images?

I understand by a random generator but something completely different.
Are there perhaps even 10,000 pre-programmed pictures, which result in nothing or only little,
and 500 with smaller or larger wins?


What you personally understand by a random number generator is not important. The fact is that every day more people lose than win because it is a game of luck. My God what is going on in your heads?

An example for all those who are not sure how high their chances are at the Slot machine game:

Imagine you are playing "heads or tails". You bet on one of the two. If you are right, you double your bet, if you are wrong, you lose it. The special thing: Parallel to the game runs a wheel. This wheel has 19 green and 1 red field. If the pointer lands on the red field, you lose your bet even if you have won.

This is roughly what the RTP does. It makes it impossible, mathematically, to win in the long run. So how do you explain that more people in the world lose? Because it's math, and math is not just right in theory. How exactly do you think the numbers of lottery winners who have 4 or 5 correct match the theoretical probability? These two numbers are often identical! Or at least very close to each other. Here there are no coincidences that allow the casino to lose. Even if a single player is incredibly lucky and wins heads or tails 100 times in a row, the casino wins on everyone else and the money is in. And then people lose and cry fraud because they were too naive to understand that they are paying for the livelihood of an entire industry that is doing well.

@Rollstevmrol...... and Daniel won 70.000€ just like that? There were other wins here in the month of May. My 100€ don't hit there to weight, but I have also won. That is a subjective feeling.

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s****e

The random lie

2nd Jun. 2018, at 04:30 pm CEST#42
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And I tell you that in the lotto there are often several wins, despite a probability of
i don't care about heads or tails, I see that the lottery has an almost unbelievably
less probability there are winners. Lotto is for me real improbability, and nevertheless
almost always make it.

But at the casino you should not be able to win several days in a row, because it is logical?
What is actually logical with a Random Number Generator?
Who do you want to tell that to?
Random number generator? Not in life!

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Anonym

The random lie

2nd Jun. 2018, at 04:32 pm CEST#43
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Bones wrote on 02.06.2018 at 16:12: I'm getting out of this now because it's getting too stupid for me. 70.winning 000€ is possible but so damn unlikely that it is LOGICAL that it doesn't happen to 100 people a day. Do you also complain that lotto is rigged because not every draw 100 people have six right, or is that okay? If you deny yourself logic so much, you won't learn it anymore. If on average, for example, every 500 turns FS come in then it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that they come right again and yet I think almost everyone here has had that once or twice. I certainly have. And please, please look at how a Random Number Generator works, a computer can't do 100% random that easily either. Of course the symbols on your screen are not randomly shuffled damn it. This is only the graphical representation of the randomly determined win. The fact that there are especially often two books, almost 5 explorers or similar hints is of course no coincidence. These are pictures that can be shown intentionally. Do you really think your screen has reels with symbols stuck on them that run when you press the mouse button hard enough?

Good example: the Swiss guy who won the million dollar Jackpot at Casino Bregenz a few years ago. The casino instantly claimed that it was a "software error" and got it through in court. A software error. How can there be a software error if everything happens randomly? That is, if I have the possibility to hit the jackpot at any time, because every picture appears randomly? How can it be then that a machine spits out the jackpot and it is supposed to be a software error afterwards?

That means that all my losses could also be due to a software error? That is nonsense. When I heard that, I really thought about it for the first time. Is there a software error in the lottery? Like: Omg, actually we wanted a 6 instead of a 9. We're reshooting? ^^ You can not be serious to believe this crap.

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Anonym

The random lie

2nd Jun. 2018, at 04:40 pm CEST#44
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Bones wrote on 02/06/2018 at 16:24
What you personally mean by a Random Number Generator is who cares. The fact is that every day more people lose than win because it's a LUCKY GAME. My god what is going on in your heads?

An example for all those who are not sure how high their chances are at the Slot machine game:

Imagine you are playing "heads or tails". You bet on one of the two. If you are right, you double your bet, if you are wrong, you lose it. The special thing: Parallel to the game runs a wheel. This wheel has 19 green and 1 red field. If the pointer lands on the red field, you lose your bet even if you have won.

This is roughly what the RTP does. It makes it impossible, mathematically, to win in the long run. So how do you explain that more people in the world lose? Because it's math, and math is not just right in theory. How exactly do you think the numbers of lottery winners who have 4 or 5 correct match the theoretical probability? These two numbers are often identical! Or at least very close to each other. Here there are no coincidences that allow the casino to lose. Even if a single player is incredibly lucky and wins heads or tails 100 times in a row, the casino wins on everyone else and the money is in. And then people lose and cry fraud because they were too naive to understand that they are paying for the livelihood of an entire industry that is doing well.

@Rollstevmrol...... and Daniel won 70.000€ just like that? There were other wins here in the month of May. My 100€ don't hit there to weight, but I have also won. That is a subjective feeling.

Boa that's not the point. We all know that you lose in the long run. I make this one an offer. I will play BoD from Monday to Sunday next week at 15:23 with 0.10. I'll take a screenshot every day. I'll prove to you what I mean. 7 days en suite at the same time, same stake and I bet you a Paysafecard that the wins will ALL be between x40-x60 AND I will get the free play every day. Vl. you understand then what I mean.

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Knochen
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The random lie

2nd Jun. 2018, at 04:42 pm CEST#45
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The problem with people like you is this. There is this software error or not in Switzerland and that should be an argument for fraud. It's a well-known and curious case, but it's not like you've been stripped of all your wins online. You just didn't win because that is the realistic case of things. My last advice is, if you can't handle gambling, don't do it. Always blaming somewhere else is very weak. Nobody forces you to gamble.

Do that with the screenshots, that would at least be interesting and maybe you would really see a pattern, who knows. If it would be so easy then that would be almost a possibility to earn money permanently? Why don't you do it then? But I will not bet for any PSC.

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Anonym

The random lie

2nd Jun. 2018, at 04:47 pm CEST#46
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Bone wrote on 02.06.2018 at 16:42: The problem with people like you is that. There is this software bug or not in Switzerland and that should be an argument for fraud. This is a well known and curious case but it's not like you were stripped of all your wins online. You just didn't win because that is the realistic case of things. My last advice is, if you can't handle gambling, don't do it. Always blaming somewhere else is very weak. Nobody forces you to gamble.

Do that with the screenshots, that would at least be interesting and maybe you would really see a pattern, who knows. If it would be so easy then that would be almost a possibility to earn money permanently? Why don't you do that then?

How do you want to earn money if you win 5 Euros at this time? Including the spins you have to make before that there is not much left. Why don't you try it? Are you afraid that it could come true and there is no coincidence? And your world view would be shaken with it?

And the problem with people like you is that you could bring 100 proofs and there would still be somehow, somewhere a "logical explanation" to find. And the club "Who does not get along with the gambling, should let it stay" is the summit of naivety.

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Knochen
Elite

The random lie

2nd Jun. 2018, at 04:54 pm CEST#47
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I'm not trying this because I play for fun. And it wouldn't be fun for me to play Book of Dead exactly at 15:23, I already play this game very rarely and certainly not daily. 100 proof is a strong thing. I'd be in favor of you bringing one proof first. One proof would give this discussion relevance. Until then, I'm really out now because it's getting decidedly too stupid for me.

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Anonym

The random lie

2nd Jun. 2018, at 04:57 pm CEST#48
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Bone wrote on 02/06/2018 at 16:54: I'm not trying this because I play for fun. And it wouldn't be fun for me to play Book of Dead exactly at 15:23, I already play this game very rarely and certainly not daily. 100 proof is a strong thing. I'd be in favor of you bringing one proof first. One proof would give this discussion relevance. Until then, I'm really out now because it's getting decidedly too stupid for me.

Ditto!

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L****0

The random lie

3rd Jun. 2018, at 02:38 am CEST#49
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Rollstevmroll wrote on 02/06/2018 at 16:47
How are you going to make money if you win 5 euros at this time? Including the spins you have to make before that doesn't leave much. Why don't you try it? Are you afraid that it could come true and there is no coincidence? And your world view would be shaken with it?

And the problem with people like you is that you could bring 100 proofs and there would still be somehow, somewhere a "logical explanation" to find. And the club "Who does not get along with the gambling, should let it stay" is the summit of naivety.

Rollstevmroll, you have announced on this side a test run to start which should bring at least proofs one can examine.
As bone comes to you and that would also be interesting as surely many here you have suddenly like a defiant child no longer want.
You are welcome to post it in the evidence thread, why should Knochen try it?
From Knochen you can find game series on RTP, he has tried rounds.
What you describe sounds so unlikely that if it were to come true it would actually be interesting.
But for heaven's sake stop turning over the burden of proof, the next guy comes along and says the 1371st spin in Book of Dead is always free spins, always!
Why do you announce proof and then turn like a flag in the wind?

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s****e

The random lie

3rd Jun. 2018, at 02:49 am CEST#50
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Boah this is so bad. And so obvious, ha ha

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