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Online Casinos in general: The random lie (Page 2)

Topic created on 28th May. 2018 | Page: 2 of 8 | Answers: 76 | Views: 24,136
Knochen
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The random lie

29th May. 2018, at 12:44 am CEST#11
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Okay 100.000€ sounds but also much more than 5000X. I have now looked and alone here in the forum there are 8 winning pictures with 5000X or more. Partly series wins but I would not take into account for the time being because this technically only with a bet are triggered. Now do not misunderstand, I have never believed anyway that with streamers everything happens with right things, but impossible or so unrealistic that it is virtually impossible, such a win is still not.

What I can still somehow imagine is the "play money theory". With play money one plays simply much more liberated, much higher stakes and can outlast longer times. 20€ stake and 100.000€ win equals so to speak 1.000€ on 20ct. That had a buddy of mine once in the arcade as a series win, or actually something more. Of course, still unrealistic that a Streamer has such a win.

That the slots can be controlled I still do not believe. Since I would be more willing to believe that streamers get differently programmed slots with much higher AQ to play or something similar although I can not quite believe that. Basically, however, this is pure advertising for a casino and advertising is always beautifully talked and crapped so who knows. That there is no proof of Manipulation in the multitude of casinos, game manufacturers, authorities, employees, etc., etc., but no single statement from an insider then gives me the security.

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Anonym

The random lie

29th May. 2018, at 12:58 am CEST#12
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Knochen wrote on 29/05/2018 at 00:44: Okay 100.000€ sounds but also much more than 5000X. I checked now and here in the forum alone there are 8 winning pictures with 5000X or more. Partially series wins but I would not take that into account for the time being because even this technically only with a bet are triggered. Now do not misunderstand, I have never believed anyway that with streamers everything happens with right things, but impossible or so unrealistic that it is virtually impossible, such a win is still not.

What I can still somehow imagine is the "play money theory". With play money one plays simply much more liberated, much higher stakes and can outlast longer times. 20€ stake and 100.000€ win equals so to speak 1.000€ on 20ct. That had a buddy of mine once in the arcade as a series win, or actually something more. Of course, still unrealistic that a Streamer has such a win.

That the slots can be controlled I still do not believe. Since I would be more willing to believe that streamers get differently programmed slots with much higher AQ to play or something similar although I can not quite believe that. Basically, however, this is pure advertising for a casino and advertising is always beautifully talked and crapped so who knows. That there is no proof of Manipulation in the multitude of casinos, game manufacturers, authorities, employees, etc., etc., but no single statement from an insider then gives me the security.

Theoretically possible, yes.

But the point is that you see such images all the time on streamers. And that on the highest stakes.
Until you get a win like that, you would have played yourself bankrupt in most cases.
And many streamers have such wins regularly.
That's what it's all about in the end and that's just funny.
Even if they would only play for play money, such wins still come almost never.
I had my own time where I really played a lot and for a long time. A 5000x picture was there but not. That would be, to illustrate how unrealistic, 5 explorers during the free spins.
Therefore, it is mathematically totally unrealistic that of all streamers, regularly such wins. Play money or not.

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Anonym

The random lie

29th May. 2018, at 01:22 am CEST#13
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Nickii45
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The random lie

29th May. 2018, at 07:23 am CEST#14
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I also no longer believe that is coincidence ....after years of online gambling ...And thousands of euros... I see strangely always only the same winners in the list... observe times sunmaker there are 1 or 2 every day in the winners list and every 2 to 3 days also have huge wins ... so with 48000 in 2 days over 100000 ... i have played for years there and am not even close to such a sum ... if I had on 20 euros free spins I got 200 euros is but fooling and rip-off ...

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Sascha666
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The random lie

29th May. 2018, at 03:57 pm CEST#15
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I honestly don't believe a word or picture of the Steamers anymore.^^
Even if they show you Deposit or withdrawal proofs, who says that there is not simply laundered money?
Who knows if the Streamer in the next few days vllt must pay back an amount? or extra gets?

There are private meetings between the streamers and casinos, of course things are agreed in closed rooms, of which the stream viewers and gamblers should rather not know.
Daniel has somewhere once calculated how much you lose on average with bet X per hour.
If you then look at the streamers who play 4-6 hours a day with high stakes, then the calculation can not add up.
Even if these people earn 10,000€ net per month, their Affiliate money would simply be gone after 1-2 weeks.
At some point you are simply broke, have gambled away the available and have to wait until the next payment.

But not with the streamers - there is just always further seemingly paid in, there is no limit.
And why? Probably because they play with casino credits.
The streamer apparently pays in (maybe even really), but gets the deposit credited again.
No Risk of losing money + affiliate income without end. Pretty smart

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Anonym

The random lie

29th May. 2018, at 04:28 pm CEST#16
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Sascha666 wrote on 29.05.2018 at 15:57: I honestly do not believe the Steamers word or picture more.^^
Even if they show you Deposit or withdrawal proofs, who says that there is not simply money laundering?
Who knows if the Streamer in the next few days vllt an amount back must pay? or extra gets?

There are private meetings between the streamers and casinos, of course things are agreed in closed rooms, of which the stream viewers and gamblers should rather not know.
Daniel has somewhere once calculated how much you lose on average with bet X per hour.
If you then look at the streamers who play 4-6 hours a day with high stakes, then the calculation can not add up.
Even if these people earn 10,000€ net per month, their Affiliate money would simply be gone after 1-2 weeks.
At some point you are simply broke, have gambled away the available and have to wait until the next payment.

But not with the streamers - there is just always further seemingly paid in, there is no limit.
And why? Probably because they play with casino credits.
The streamer apparently pays in (maybe even really), but gets the deposit credited again.
No Risk of losing money + affiliate income without end. Pretty smart

That's how it will be. There were also streamers in the past who seemed as if they were complete beginners and hardly knew what they were actually doing, but deposited and paid out several 1000€ a day. The streamers are paid by the casinos and are virtually "employed" to animate us with such streams or BigWin clips to play. Of course, they advertise their "favorite" casino, which simply means that they are paid by exactly this casino as soon as people register and deposit through their link. This is the case EVERYWHERE casinos are advertised. The casinos also give the streamers 500% or even 1000% Bonuses and I'm sure they get money to play with. I don't even want to know what goes on behind the closed doors there... what kind of contracts are made.
There is no Random Number Generator, or has anyone ever seen it? why do you believe the casinos? If I say there are unicorns, you'd have to believe me, even if you haven't seen them yet.
As long as enough money flows, everyone keeps his mouth shut. And generally where enough money flows, there is corruption, because everyone can be bought, it just depends on the amount.

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s****e

The random lie

29th May. 2018, at 04:36 pm CEST#17
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Good text!
If those who want your money, say that everything is with
everything is above board, you should absolutely believe it.

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Tropper
Top Member

The random lie

30th May. 2018, at 09:17 am CEST#18
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Random wrote on 05/28/2018 at 23:26: What is definitely just hilarious is all the BIG wins from the streamers.
I mean who are they kidding. Me and the majority of users here have been playing long enough and have had enough hour long sessions to know that this is complete bullshit.

It's funny, once you become a Streamer you only get good hits.
I recently saw a video where someone made 100,000 with a single spin on Bonanza in the free spins.
From that point on it was clear to me that not everything can go right with the streamers.

So a story that is only a few days old. I like to watch the Shirox with the opinion that he finally gambles away everything he bets. On Dunder he always gets a bonus. When he played again for 2 hours and was about 1000€ miese he said, he will contact me later maybe again. I didn't look at him then but according to his replay he actually came back 3 hrs later or so with the headline Hotmode hunt, he got on 7€ tray the hotmode on terminator ( how he got to it you didn't see) he waited until the crowd came and then he played. At 6000-7000€ he played various games and paid out (I think) 6000€. All the losses he made the last few days (1200€, 800€ and so) he has with one blow again plus still something plus. Exactly the same was 2 weeks ago with hot chilli where he also fetched in the free spins 5000€. That means he is not in the miesen, by gambling he gets no losses rather small plus + the Affiliate income (also believe that he does not árbeit).

So what I want to say, we viewers do not have such a "luck", only those who put a lot nbeisst nbe part back but never the whole part. The streamers have way too much luck and I think that is fraudulent deception towards the viewers (because of course they think "cool, I can't ruin myself" and that should be forbidden even if some think that would be entertainment. Luck, coincidence? ON THE ASS NEVER NEVER

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Tropper
Top Member

The random lie

31st May. 2018, at 09:09 pm CEST#19
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Today I had a small dropout, I had a 1 month block at Rizk and could play again from today. I paid in because I wanted to see Book of Death free spins again and I was a little bored
50€ were quickly gone, and tried it again... it went so fast there were suddenly already 150€ gone, then I finally got at Gold King something return and also at Book he opened and could at least pay out 110 again. Effectively I had had 40€ loss, but... some hours later I thought to myself, I play again 40€ on 1 € fach vllt I have luck... quickly were 250€ miese (so 40€ pre-loss plus 210 once again reingeschmissen), I was so p**sed and wanted to let me block on Rizk

The employee gave me as a "consolation" a 25 no Deposit bonus and some free spins, because he did not want to lose me as a "customer".
With this 25€ bonus on which was a wager I got an almost full screen on gold king (video I can add) on which I arrived at about 240€ immediately, since I still had to wager I went back to book and played on high stakes almost everything down, at 3 € fold he opened again and gave with 180€. Finally I brought 100€ to the payout. So effective loss of 150€ and then first self-exclusion for 1 month (otherwise I just throw more and more in..).

What I want to get at, with the bonus I got no outstanding images but often at least free spins on book, gold king, legacy of something (montezuma clone)...
I found that very funny!!!
Why I actually play over and over again I do not know, but coincidence it is in any case not...

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W****m

The random lie

31st May. 2018, at 10:14 pm CEST#20
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Tropper wrote on 05/31/2018 at 21:09: Today I had a little dropout, I had a 1 month block on Rizk and as of today I could play again. I deposited as I would like to see Book of Death free spins again and was a bit bored
50€ were quickly gone, and tried it again... it went so fast there were suddenly already 150€ gone, then I finally got at Gold King something return and also at Book he opened and could at least pay out 110 again. Effectively I had had 40€ loss, but... some hours later I thought to myself, I play again 40€ on 1 € fach vllt I have luck... quickly were 250€ miese (so 40€ pre-loss plus 210 once again reingeschmissen), I was so p**sed and wanted to let me block on Rizk

The employee gave me as a "consolation" a 25 no Deposit bonus and some free spins, because he did not want to lose me as a "customer".
With this 25€ bonus whereupon a wager was I got an almost full screens on gold king (video I can add) whereupon I arrived at about 240€ immediately, since I still had to wager I went back to book and played on high stakes almost everything down, at 3 € fold he opened again and gave with 180€. Finally I brought 100€ to the payout. So effective loss of 150€ and then first self-exclusion for 1 month (otherwise I just throw more and more in..).

What I want to get at, with the bonus I got no outstanding images but often at least free spins on book, gold king, legacy of something (montezuma clone)...
I found that very funny!!!
Why I actually play over and over again I do not know, but coincidence it is in any case not...

I don't know exactly if it belongs in here, the addiction came over me today, I first deposited 10 euros at Vegas Hero and then 950 euros at Wixstars, the 10 were gone quickly is clear,
started small with 20 cent Bonanza at Wix, nothing on 1 euro later on 2 euros from 900 down to 80 . After loss of 820 euros comes GOLD stake 2 euros . Win 76 euro . Now I have 155 euros again. Here you do not want more.

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