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Online Casinos in general: The random lie

Topic created on 28th May. 2018 | Page: 1 of 8 | Answers: 76 | Views: 24,438
Anonym

The random lie

28th May. 2018, at 03:42 pm CEST#1
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When I visited real casinos for the first time x years ago, I gambled like hell. After some time, however, I began to play 2,3 machines with smaller stakes. Partly different stakes, partly exactly the same. The result was mostly: 1-2 run through empty, the 3rd plays up a bit. I found this exciting and waited for the "big hit". Often, all 3 ran quite well. With the time then nevertheless 2 said goodbye and 1er pulled off correctly. At that time, I had little doubt that these "random generators" really existed.

About 5 years ago I started to gamble online. I quickly noticed that there was obviously something of a repeating "pattern". In just under 6 years of real casinos, I hadn't really encountered this. More and more, I began to tune into this pattern and play according to it. At certain times, you just know on which bets freespins are coming. Book of Dead is probably the prime example.

Well, after May was really, really bad, I thought about challenging it today. The coincidence just. selected 5 Online Casinos and deposited 25 euros in each. Book of Dead - 1 line and different bets. Say: 0.10 x 1, 0.05 x2, 0.02 x5, 0.03 x3 and 0.04 x2.

Actually, you should experience completely different games. I ran the 5 in parallel and tracked them a bit.

All 5 ran, exactly at the same times more or less "good" or "bad". Say, all 5 casinos had exactly the same "idle times". Not a single book, no line wins, nothing. When after 10 minutes of complete idle time at Casino1 finally 4 symbols appeared on the middle line again, I got line wins on all other 4 casinos as well. The whole thing happened within 1-2 minutes. After playing for half an hour, I knew that if one of the five casinos gave me freespins, I'd get them at the others, too. Sometimes I got exactly, that is to the second, at 3 of 5 casinos free spins. Mind you: Different stakes.

The only small difference was that the amount of winnings was slightly different. At Casino 1,2 and 3 I was after ner three-quarters of an hour on pretty much exactly 50 euros. With the remaining two, always around the Deposit, that is 25 euros.

At 14:28 there was then the last free spins at one of the 5 casinos. Subsequently, until 15:00 at none of the 5 more. That is, I have in 5 different casinos, with different stakes, for half an hour no more free spins received. Also no line wins. 4 of the 5 casinos were empty exactly after this half hour. Everything gone. Only the fifth, still had a 10er left. I have now times stehn leave.



But the really awesome thing was: When line wins finally came, they were the same. That is: Casino 1 paid 4x Kings, Casino 2 and 3 4x Aces and Casino 4 and 5 3 pieces of the low premium symbols. And all this within 2 minutes. So almost exactly the same wins. The free spins also played out pretty darn similar. Funfact: Even though I played for more than an hour, I didn't get a full line at any of the 5 casinos. However, if you were to extrapolate the spins, we are well over 2500 spins for sure.


This has very little to do with a random number generator. Yes, it may be subject to chance whether you get a big win or not. But the game itself, runs with absolute certainty not random. Sometimes you even get exactly the same teasers. Exactly to the second.




Ergo: Leave it alone. Don't put any more money into it. For me, that's it for good. That is, for me it is proven that it is certainly not a real random generator. There is a massive pattern behind it. Sure, this pattern can give you a decent hit, but the way there is stony and in my opinion pointless.


LG

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Elite

The random lie

28th May. 2018, at 03:57 pm CEST#2
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Screenshots would be interesting. So I am a bit skeptical. No random generator, for my sake, maybe. But what then? Someone who writes the gameplay. A software that does it automatically? Isn't that a random generator again? If you had made screenshots it would be definitely more interesting.

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Anonym

The random lie

28th May. 2018, at 04:14 pm CEST#3
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Yes, I also thought about streaming something like that. That is, to show how it all actually works, directly in YouTube, for example. Would a channel that accuses Online Casinos of systematic rip-offs remain online? Or how does that work?

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Anonym

The random lie

28th May. 2018, at 10:05 pm CEST#4
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Hmm a slightly different comparison from me to what I've observed several times now.

At Videoslots I take part in the battles when they run throughout the day, like last week-end.

There you can see in the respective battle how many points others have fetched. There it is almost always so, the intervallartig very high wins come with many and then that breaks off again completely and all get again much lower points. This is in my opinion, have not audgeschrieben me so exactly, 2-3 in the hour.

I have then always waited for such times and then redeemed my won free spins and then this time also had quite high wins. If I have then won free spins redeemed, where all players had no such high winnings, came with this won free spins also with me nix rum,

This I have already observed several times and "exploited" when such battles were. This is NOT a coincidence for me.

I personally suspect more and more that it is simply controlled intervallartig distributed. I therefore share the opinion of the thread creator

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Anonym

The random lie

28th May. 2018, at 11:26 pm CEST#5
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What's funny in any case are all the BIG wins of the streamers.
I mean, who are they kidding. Me and the majority of the users here play long enough and have already enough hour-long sessions behind us to know that this is complete nonsense.

It's funny, once you become a Streamer you only get good hits.
I recently saw a video where someone made 100,000 with a single spin on Bonanza in the free spins.
From that point on it was clear to me that not everything can go right with the streamers.

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Elite

The random lie

28th May. 2018, at 11:36 pm CEST#6
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I don't watch streamers because I find it boring but I always thought they play so much that they inevitably make massive wins at some point. When I test new games with play money from time to time I get 20.000€ wins (with 40-200€ stake of course). But if streamers really land 100,000€ hits, then there is pretty sure something wrong. Because no matter how much you play, those are one-time wins probably rarer than 6s in the lottery. But somehow this is too clumsy for me as an advertising medium. You can hardly lure real players with it, because you rather arouse distrust.

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Anonym

The random lie

28th May. 2018, at 11:47 pm CEST#7
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So if I compare myself with streamers then I can only conclude that I also play no less than some... but so many 1000x wins I get net

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s****e

The random lie

28th May. 2018, at 11:56 pm CEST#8
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The purpose of streamers, or the casinos behind them, is to acquire new players.
That is the be-all and end-all, I think.

1. New players often fall for the bonus rules because they do not yet know the system.

2. Older players of those casinos put money in anyway, I do not need to lure with streamers.

I've also noticed the abysmally high winnings at those casinos.
I also disagree with Daniel. Sure, they make a lot more spins than a normal person, but
but such winnings are in principle every time a 6 in the lottery, so it's actually impossible.

And high wins lure of course in the casino, because you think the slots throw today.

Ergo, one could steer the whole nevertheless. Who wins, how much, etc.?

10 years ago you could play with 100€ also much longer than nowadays.
And this is not a subjective feeling, that almost all older players confirm
The game fun was completely different, even if you lost everything afterwards.
The software alone must have changed.

But what I found interesting was a learning software. It analyzes every player. How much
he pays in, how does he behave with big wins, does he pay out directly or does he gamble higher stakes?
Bets, he cancels withdrawals, or he waits patiently and and and.
The software adapts accordingly. With real gamblers I can then take the Risk of a high
of a high win, because he either continues to play higher, or cancels payouts, if it takes
takes a while. Ultimately, the gambler blames himself, because he could have paid out
Therefore, he thinks everything is serious.
One restricts oneself thereby to the real Zocker, while one "smaller" Zocker actually
win or lose via a random generator. These fall then for the Casino hardly into the
Weight, even if they win times higher. Of course, they also consider everything to be serious.

It is in principle nothing new. Even Amazon and almost all online shops
have learning software for customer behavior,
so it can't be
really difficult.

It would be the perfect money printing machine.



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Anonym

The random lie

29th May. 2018, at 12:30 am CEST#9
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Knochen wrote on 28.05.2018 at 23:36: I don't watch streamers because I find it boring but I always thought they play so much that they inevitably bring in massive wins at some point. When I test new games with play money from time to time I get 20,000€ wins (with 40-200€ stake of course). But if streamers really land 100,000€ hits, then there is pretty sure something wrong. Because no matter how much you play, those are one-time wins probably rarer than 6s in the lottery. But somehow this is too clumsy for me as an advertising medium. You can hardly lure real players with it, because you rather arouse distrust.

That is just the thinking error. I can understand it because you're not a hardcore gamer, but many others gamble more than streamers.

And the wins that seem to make and with the high stakes must have all already lost millions. Even if you calculate according to the AQ.
There is something quite lazy.


Here the video:

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Anonym

The random lie

29th May. 2018, at 12:34 am CEST#10
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And this probably brings us to the crucial one. If the casinos do not have access to the slots, how do such wins come about, where every long-term player,.who has already played much longer and more than most streamers are logically in the red?!

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