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calaudude

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2nd Jan. 2019, at 12:45 pm CET#31

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T0uchTheSky wrote on 02/01/2019 at 12:38 PM
If you are already so smart, you should actually know that at almost every casino livecasino only 10% counts towards turnover, even at Sunmaker. If you claim 2000 euros bonus, would have to turn over 2000 *40*10 =960 000 euros. Besides, if you always bet on 36 numbers, you probably violate the bonus condition, which is exactly the same if you bet on red and black at the same time

The Roulette in my example at sunmaker is a slot and counts 100%

i always bet only on the number "1" and statistically should come with every 37th time the number 1 with a 36x win

even if the slot counts only to 10% it would not change anything to the cashout after the Wager

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2nd Jan. 2019, at 12:49 pm CET#32

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calaudude wrote on 01/02/2019 12:45 PM

i always bet only on the number "1" and statistically every 37th time the number 1 should come with a 36x win

Is today already the 1st of April? Shake your head......

May I ask you what you are still doing here in the forum when you have found a vein of gold, so don't waste your valuable time and rather go gambling....

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2nd Jan. 2019, at 12:51 pm CET#33

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but I wrote the problem is that you get as a "normal player" only rarely / never a bonus, so it is not a vein of gold

i myself have registered at every casino with at least 200% Welcome bonus and played according to my rules

now I have all through and have come out with about €5000 plus

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Pagani

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2nd Jan. 2019, at 01:00 pm CET#34

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So 5000 € credit with bonus? In which period then?
I play basically without bonus, because then I have no restrictions

M.E. the only way to make money with OC is a good portion of luck and madness

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2nd Jan. 2019, at 01:02 pm CET#35

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I take en Nowagering-Bonus, with all the arithmetic you lose directly the faith to implement the x40 bonus ^^

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2nd Jan. 2019, at 01:04 pm CET#36

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I also always play without a bonus. I could not convert the Welcome bonus with 10 euros - 0.10 cents bet or I have never managed

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2nd Jan. 2019, at 01:16 pm CET#37

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If then with turnover free spins! So 10 € Deposit and 20 spins in addition. Even if I have at the end only 2 € by the free spins more, but then turnover-free and without MAXBET etc

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2nd Jan. 2019, at 01:16 pm CET#38

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TomWegas wrote on 01/02/2019 12:33 PM: I give up is too absurd for me

You are a genius. Me stupid. Everyone is happy and loving each other

Good luck with your 275% RTP

Do you doubt his grandiose and completely logical math skills?

So there is indeed a kind of positive expectation, but you need extremely large capital for it and in this day and age it has also become more difficult to implement. You really play at high Risk as the TE describes it, plus it can be that even after 50 Bonuses you are still in the red - so this tactic is not for easy nerves. I have not understood them 100%, but already read a lot about it. Only the conditions are now significantly worse than many years ago, so I recommend for anyone with clear mind to take distance - this is a very risky investment that you can not lift as a normal earner if it does not run.

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2nd Jan. 2019, at 01:39 pm CET#39

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Ankor wrote on 01/02/2019 at 1:16 pm
Are you doubting his grandiose and completely logical math skills?

So there is actually some kind of positive expectation, but you need extremely much capital for that and in today's time it has also become harder to implement that. You really play at high Risk as the TE describes it, plus it can be that even after 50 Bonuses you are still in the red - so this tactic is not for easy nerves. I have not understood them 100%, but already read a lot about it. Only the conditions are now significantly worse than many years ago, so I recommend for anyone with clear mind to take distance - this is a very risky investment that you can not lift as a normal earner if it does not run.

The positive expected value is in the sunmaker example in the long term only with slots with RTP over 97.5% (are blocked in most bonus offers) and there it is then as you say that you need a lot of capital and good nerves because it can also run significantly worse. In addition, you can hardly find slots with such a high RTP.

The BoD example of TE has simply no positive expected value because the RTP is well below 97.5%. Even high volatility does not change that. Volatility only makes it possible to clear a bonus from time to time. If there were no volatility would be just always eaten X% of the stake and you would always go safely broke.

The volatility just confuses many and that is also the case with TE. Because he mixes the theoretical long-term RTP (i.e. the expected value) with the actual RTP after a big hit. Maybe he does it on purpose to confuse people here

By the way, if you could actually always play in such a way that you have a long-term positive expected value with bonus, an online casino would usually consider that as bonus fraud and not pay out. But they usually prepare themselves in advance by designing the bonus conditions (turnover conditions) so that even playing with a bonus has a negative expected value. The expected value with bonus is just better than without bonus because you get the bonus as a "free loss"

Without bonus, the deposited capital would be eaten away, but you do not have to fulfill any conditions and can pay out immediately after a big hit

It is always the question of what type of player you are and whether it is fun to deal with the conditions or not. There are in many casinos just stupid traps with Max Bet and Restricted Games. Actually, the casinos should all handle it so that breaking the bonus conditions is not possible and an error message comes

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2nd Jan. 2019, at 01:48 pm CET#40

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Just the right entertainment in my still hungover New Year's Eve hangover.

ne new episode " Mitten im Gambleleben" on RTL Trölf
"the small Calaudude would like a bonus with higher turnover conditions absolutely! Because in school they have learned arithmetic, Calaudude was sick"^^

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