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Online Casinos in general: The only chance to make money with casinos is (Page 2)

Topic created on 01st Jan. 2019 | Page: 2 of 9 | Answers: 85 | Views: 22,062
Anonym
mmessner29 wrote on 01/01/2019 at 23:23: A Darts World Cup is about millions in prize money! The 2019 prize money for example -> " First place prize money Darts World Cup 2019 is 500,000 pounds . Source
-----> (https://praxistipps.focus.de/darts-wm-2019-so-viel-preisgeld-erhalten-die-spieler_106831)If you do not call that gambling then please...... tell me nothing! Poker millionaire you can not simply times become, for it you must be able to play poker!

Huh? What has a prize money at a sports event to do with gambling?
According to the logic, every sport is gambling.

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eierlothar
Top Member
mmessner29 wrote on 01/01/2019 at 23:23: A Darts World Cup is about millions in prize money! The 2019 prize money for example -> " First place prize money Darts World Cup 2019 is 500,000 pounds . Source
-----> (https://praxistipps.focus.de/darts-wm-2019-so-viel-preisgeld-erhalten-die-spieler_106831)If you do not call that gambling then please...... tell me nothing! Poker millionaire you can not simply times become, for it you must be able to play poker!

Dart world champion you will not be able to ?

You can not become just like that, but that are like in any sport over the years the best who end up in front. So people who have learned it and are exceptional players in their sport

Poker is already a story with which are not comparable, because you can as a beginner, if no one knows you yet, and you have it on it make a lot of flutes beginning, until the casinos know you and you are burned. To make then properly ash, it lacks just money or sponsors, who of course get their morsel then. And in poker, you can scan everyone at the table after a few rounds by recognizing gestures, etc., and clear the table

Wins from poker and Roulette will be just as proportionate as in slots, because the problem is to stop at the right time, and no one here is smart enough to look for it, not excluding me.


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Zockertyp89 wrote on 01/01/2019 at 23:04
Nevertheless, you write yourself, you need luck in poker. Just look how many can really live from gambling and how many lose there.

Darts and billiards is sport and not gambling. No idea why you throw that into the same pot.

Poker can theoretically be played for a profit. Luck is then secondary and plays only a minor role for professional players.


The problem is only that about 97% lose and about 3% actually play so well that they can live on it.
And you don't just learn that, it takes a long time to build up an edge with which you can play profitably.

The average playing strength of the players is unfortunately already immensely high.
There are only a few people who have no idea at all.

It takes a few years of intensive study to get to the point where you can claim to be a winning player.

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eierlothar wrote at 23:40 on 01 Jan 2019


Poker is already ne story with which are not comparable, because there you can as a beginner, if no one knows you yet, and you have it on it ne a lot of flutes make beginning, until the casinos know you and you are burned



Why should any casino ban a Poker player because he wins?
A poker player is not playing against the casino's money, but against the money of other poker players.
The casino only earns money because they play. They don't care who wins.

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calaudude wrote on 01/01/2019 at 21:54: To be clear the RTP of a cashin with bonus is more than 100%


so there is no guarantee that it comes to a cashout but on average you make a win

What a bullshit. The Bonuses are designed so that the RTP is more than the bonus. This alone has to be so due to money laundering regulations. But since you spit here about all so big sounds, calculate it but times on a practical example and I tell you then gladly where your thinking error is

You can play longer with bonuses than without. But they always have a negative expected value. That's why games with high RTP are forbidden to implement bonuses.

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upola
Legend
Well folks, isn't the TE a nice person.
Tells us all how we can win while playing.
That's something.

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Anonym
calaudude wrote on 01/01/2019 at 20:54
currently I have a sunmaker bonus 200% ie 300 euro with 100 deposit

The bonus times taken as an example:

At Sunmaker you have to wager the bonus amount 40 times
So that means 8000 euros with 200 euros bonus.
If you assume an average RTP of 95%, you lose on average 400 euros when wagering
Has then an expected value of -200 euros.
If one would play for example only Blood Suckers from NetEnt with 98%. One would have with the bonus actually even a positive expected value. Because in the long term you lose on average "only" 160 euros of the 200 euros. Would then actually have a positive value. However, I do not know if Blood Suckers and similar slots are not banned there or if Sunmaker then does not go there afterwards and makes problems
And apart from that who plays only slots with such high RTPs. Most do not even pay attention or do not even know where they find the RTP in the slot let alone what it says.

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calaudude
Rookie
As I said to understand that Cashin with Bonus has a RTP > 100% you have to understand math or ask your teacher.

read my tutorial again

Wagern of course in principle only with slots the highest RTP have at least 97% if possible
Who plays 95% slots should anyway leave the fingers from gambling

here again the whole for dummies.

i pay 10x 100 euro with 200% bonus each and 8000 euro wager

so €1000 cashin €2000 bonus and €80000 wager so far so good

but with each RIP you have to subtract the remaining wager from the total wager

so you get a positive RTP > 100%

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M****3
calaudude wrote on 02/01/2019 at 11:41 am: As I said to understand that Cashin with bonus has a RTP > 100% you just have to understand math or just ask your teacher.

read my tutorial again

Wagern of course in principle only with slots the highest RTP have at least 97% if possible
Who plays 95% slots should anyway leave the fingers from gambling

here again the whole for dummies.

i pay 10x 100 euro with 200% bonus each and 8000 euro wager

so €1000 cashin €2000 bonus and €80000 wager so far so good

but with each RIP you have to subtract the remaining wager from the total wager

so you get a positive RTP > 100%

What please do not understand what you mean

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Anonym
calaudude wrote on 02/01/2019 at 11:41 am: As I said to understand that Cashin with Bonus has a RTP > 100% you just have to understand math or just ask your teacher.


but with every RIP you have to subtract the residual wager from the total wager

so you then come to a positive RTP > 100%


Dude I have rarely laughed so much. Oh man. What does the RIP and the remaining wager from the last Deposit have to do with the new attempt? This makes the expected value at the next attempt with slots below 97.5% still negative...

You better ask your teacher again and as I said, usually the slots with the high RTP are then also not available for bonus wagering or have a lower weighting.

But you have the insight. Then continue to have success with your self-invented positive RTP...

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