Online Casinos in general: The end of online casinos? (Page 2)

Avantgarde83 wrote on 08.11.2017 at 16:14

Dipson wrote on 08/11/2017 at 13:58: The banks have no interest at all in stopping or banning any payments. They make money on all transactions. Man we live in post capitalism. You can't get any more "money ownership" than that
If you have enough money, you can bribe judges. Of course not officially, but when I look at some mild sentences of capital criminals...well.

yes, unfortunately

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Daniel wrote on 08.11.2017 at 19:51

Avantgarde83 wrote on 08/11/2017 at 16:14

Dipson wrote on 08/11/2017 at 13:58: The banks have no interest at all in stopping or banning any payments. They make money on all transactions. Man we live in post capitalism. You can't get any more "money ownership" than that
If you have enough money, you can bribe judges. Of course not officially, but when I look at some mild sentences of capital criminals...well.

yes, unfortunately

If there were no Online Casinos or players could not Deposit there, then the players would just go to casinos. If the minimum stakes are too high for the players or they are blocked for casinos in one federal state, then they go to the next federal state or to the neighboring state (if close by) or they switch to gaming arcades or Slot machines in gas stations and pubs and gamble their money there. In gambling houses and pubs, however, gamblers do not even have the small prospect of a Risk-adequate profit.

The only sensible thing to do would be to legalize the market and regulate it properly. Intelligent regulation of gambling would be:

1. Abolish slot machines in the form of "entertainment devices with the possibility of winning". With it also the whole booking breaks and the other nonsense. Stricter and regular controls of the devices and adherence to a minimum payout ratio of 90% and more for machine developers. Of course, arcade operators have to pay for the controls themselves.

2. Access control (as in casinos) also in gaming arcades.

3. Clearly place educational brochures next to each machine. Education on the subject of Gambling addiction and on how slot machines work, for example on , our advice page.

4. Central blocking file. Anyone who wants to be barred can have themselves barred nationwide for all gambling offers. Possibly one could also lock the kind of gambling separately. Someone who still wants to play the lottery can be blocked for all other games of chance. The block then also affects all then really legal online casinos that are regulated within Germany. In order to make it easier for players at risk to decide to be blocked, blocks should also only be offered for a limited period of time - 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years.

5. Ban all slot machines outside of gambling establishments. No more slot machines in pubs, restaurants, gas stations, snack bars, etc.

Especially point 5 would be the most important step to effectively curb gambling addiction, as most players come into contact with gambling (slot machines) for the first time in these localities. In these establishments, underage gamblers also come into contact with gambling for the first time, because the landlords are often negligent, they are busy with their main business, or they simply want to make money regardless of losses.

The topic is also often brought up that the protection of minors in online casinos is not sufficient. In my opinion, this is bullshit! I have never had a case in all these years where a player complained, for example, that his money was not paid out because he is underage. However, I have already read that players can hardly wait for their 18th birthday, because then they will finally no longer have to play in pubs, but also in casinos and online casinos, where the chances of winning are better ...

The best way would be a proper legalization and regulation of the online gambling market AND a legalization of private casinos in combination with increased requirements for private operators. This way, proper and important Player protection measures can be implemented and the online casinos that want to gain a foothold in Germany would then have to comply with German legislation - and they will do so!

The problem with the whole thing is that this would probably mean the complete end of the state casinos and other state gambling offers, because you will find private casinos and online casinos everywhere and the one with the best service, offers or the best machines and casino games will prevail.

The state gambling providers are just trying to secure their own income with all this bickering - which is doomed to failure in the end, with or without regulation. I've always wondered why the state needs to have a gambling monopoly anyway In my opinion, ripping people off is not a sovereign task as it is, for example, with the police or other state institutions

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tby333 wrote on 12/11/2017 at 00:39: Hopefully they block everything online and offline (Wishful thinking)

No please don't. I used to be an excessive pothead and ran around on MDMA (ecstasy), tramadol, tilidine, diazepam, etc. Nevertheless I managed to finish my apprenticeship as an electrician. I only started at 23, but I did it for 4 years. When the Love Parade was in Berlin, I overdid it, so that I got depressions of the very finest. I have 3 long-term therapies behind me. There were 13 year olds who were absolutely addicted to gambling. I let them explain to me how the money and points storage works. I had a clue about it and to this day I have never been to a single game, believe it or not. A few times Hohensyburg because I live there directly. Gambling is the only thing that has remained for me. For me, stricter conditions should be decided, but please do not abolish completely. Sounds perhaps egoistic, but everyone is responsible for himself. Doppelkorn will not be abolished, although I would do anything to get rid of this filthy stuff from the market.

LG JoKer

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Unrealmaster32 wrote on 12/11/2017 at 00:02 PM
Exactly!
Especially point 5. This applies exactly to me, I am The first time with 16 years with Slot machines come into contact, in our then regular pub. At that time still on 0,05Ct lucky Pharao and volcano Cash gezockt and woe one had lost 5€ in the machine. The evening was over. Meanwhile I am 24 and still gamble, regulated with fun and also with high stakes. And probably all this only because we had this crappy machine in the pub...

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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 11/14/2017 at 19:29

Unrealmaster32 wrote on 11/12/2017 at 00:02 PM
Exactly!
Especially point 5. This applies exactly to me, I came Das first time with 16 years in contact with Slot machines, in our then regular pub. At that time still on 0.05Ct lucky Pharao and volcano Cash gezockt and woe one had lost 5€ in the machine. The evening was over. Meanwhile I am 24 and still gamble, regulated with fun and also with high stakes. And probably all this only because we had this crappy machine in the pub...

then you would have found access somewhere else.
maybe it's in the genes.
i wouldn't mind if they closed down all the gambling and betting shops. years ago, there were a few in our small town, and now there are a few on every corner. that's no longer entertainment, it's addiction promotion.

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