MisterL wrote on 27.11.2019 at 08:44 Clock: I'll keep my fingers crossed for you
comes from time to time in the news that a private person has managed to pull up to the supreme courts and got right, so that the policy had to take action.
the bonus rules are quite questionable
furthermore, each casino can set up its own terms and conditions
the AGB's for us citizens is the civil code for the building industry the VOB (which is a paragraph of the civil code, simply because so complex, was separated.
The VOB may also not be changed by each company at its discretion
The German AGB law has however hereby nothing to do. Before the highest court would be in the case yes the European Court of Justice and for a complaint about the few bucks and such a (for the) uninteresting case are probably not even up.
In principle, each company is allowed to set up its own terms and conditions, because these are the essential part of the contract, but in Germany strict requirements apply. In the EU, they are somewhat looser
What's interesting, though
Why do you think the rules are really questionable?
In this case, it is quite clearly defined and understandable. There you can turn and turn as you want, besides, the English version MUST be used as a reference and that is even more precise in terms of wording. German translations of this help are not binding (usually even in each).
The max. Bet 5€ is known to you, you confirm that when registering using the T&C clause, so you can also here nix to it. If the limit does not fit, just go somewhere else. Sounds stupid but is guaranteed in the conclusion of the court case so made clear again.
If this were the rule of the Boo Casino, I could understand that 100%, but here are clear guidelines made
It is not the first time that here players auufschlagen, the win nict augezahlt get because of the 5 euro rule.
I would not know what a complaint should bring. you can try it, but there will be no luck.
It is also not relevant how you interpret this.
The casino will adhere to the terms and conditions, and it says that you may not bet more than 5 euros.
That iat annoying, and I wish you that you get your money.
Gedanklicch you should but say goodbye to the money.
MarcT22186 wrote at 08:59 on 27 Nov 2019
But the German AGB law has nothing to do with this. Before the highest court would be in the case yes the European Court of Justice and for a lawsuit over the few bucks and such a (for the) uninteresting case, they probably do not even stand up.
In principle, each company is allowed to set up its own terms and conditions, because these are the essential part of the contract, but in Germany strict requirements apply. In the EU, they are somewhat looser
What's interesting, though
Why do you think the rules are really questionable?
In this case, it is quite clearly defined and understandable. There you can turn and turn as you want, besides, the English version MUST be used as a reference and that is even more precise in terms of wording. German translations of this help are not binding (usually even in each).
The max. Bet 5€ is known to you, you confirm that when registering using the T&C clause, so you can also here nix to it. If the limit does not fit, just go somewhere else. Sounds stupid but is guaranteed in the conclusion of the court case so made clear again.
If this were the rule of the Boo Casino, I could understand that 100%, but here are clear guidelines made.
What I think he wants to get at: in the terms and conditions he quotes it sounds so that at higher stakes than 10 euros not all the money is confiscated, but only the wins that arose from the spins that were higher than 5 euros
And I also think that at least from the paragraph he quoted here, you can understand it that way. You can definitely make that clearer.
On the other hand, one can interpret it however also in such a way like the Casino
What is now possibly due to a translation, I do not know.
@starter: write the money off first
You can still open a complaint here, as Marc said.
The chances of getting the money or at least a part are probably towards zero, but also depends on the casino I suppose.
From this: at the beginning you write 3-4 printers on 10 euros, now just 50% 5 euros, 50% 10 euros.... 🤔
In order to give also still my contribution to it: Bonus money is until then still given money from the casino which is not yet yours
Which only under certain circumstances can become real and your money
Therefore, if the bonus conditions say maxbet is 5 euros and you play with 10 euros stake, then you violate the rules that lead to the money given away by the casino can really belong to you times
Since no lawyer can do what. I doubt even if the casino would sit in Germany and everything would be legal, that you could do then what. If I say I give you 10 euros when you jump and you just do a roll on the floor, then you would not get the 10 euros
Fact is: As soon as you play during the Wagering even a cent above the set Max Bet, you violate the terms and conditions of the casino X and they are therefore in the right. You even play several spins with double the bet, there can then also not be argued with an oversight... The lawyer you know and who also wants to do something, I can honestly not believe you... would that really be a serious or even lawyer, he would certainly not encourage you, because he would have to know that he can not open a case from Germany or that it is illegal! As hard as it sounds, say goodbye to the coal... has already happened to many people, from the mistakes you learn and change you can not anyway. It also happened to me at Mr Green with a 12.50 Euro spin, from which I was able to cash out a total of 8000 euros in the end. However, it was also only a single spin, which was not noticed or probably not noticed. If you play, as you say, 50% with this stake, there is no chance
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Nick1895 wrote on 27.11.2019 at 09:30: Fact is: As soon as you play during the Wagering even a cent above the set Max Bet, you violate the terms and conditions of the casino X and they are therefore in the right. You even play several spins with double the bet, there can then also not be argued with an oversight... The lawyer you know and who also wants to do something, I can honestly not believe you... would that really be a serious or even lawyer, he would certainly not encourage you, because he would have to know that he can not open a case from Germany or that it is illegal! As hard as it sounds, say goodbye to the coal... has already happened to many people, from the mistakes you learn and change you can not anyway. It has also happened to me at Mr Green with a 12.50 Euro spin, from which I was able to cash out a total of 8000 euros in the end. However, it was also only a single spin, which was not noticed or probably not noticed. If you play, as you say, 50% with this stake, there is no chance.
From the 10€ stake but only 5€ was ventured and not 10€
Why is that set like that?
Why do not you set that you can bet max 5€, this is obviously a trap
JiuCan wrote on 27/11/2019 09:35
But from the 10€ stake only 5€ was wagered and not 10€
Why is that set like that?
Why do not you set that you can bet max 5€, this is obviously a trap.
I understand what you mean, but the casinos are concerned with the fact that you play a maximum of 5 euros bet, even if you play with 10 euros bet and of these only 5 euros are bet. In some casinos, you get a warning before or can not even play with this stake. In most casinos, you can still do it. In the case of a win / payout, they then refer to their terms and conditions. Unfortunately, this is the case with most OCs, which then refer to the "stupidity / naivety" of the players (do not feel addressed...) is just a found food for the Maltese Bumbsbuden.
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The German AGB law has however hereby nothing to do. Before the highest court would be in the case yes the European Court of Justice and for a complaint about the few bucks and such a (for the) uninteresting case are probably not even up.
In principle, each company is allowed to set up its own terms and conditions, because these are the essential part of the contract, but in Germany strict requirements apply. In the EU, they are somewhat looser
What's interesting, though
Why do you think the rules are really questionable?
In this case, it is quite clearly defined and understandable. There you can turn and turn as you want, besides, the English version MUST be used as a reference and that is even more precise in terms of wording. German translations of this help are not binding (usually even in each).
The max. Bet 5€ is known to you, you confirm that when registering using the T&C clause, so you can also here nix to it. If the limit does not fit, just go somewhere else. Sounds stupid but is guaranteed in the conclusion of the court case so made clear again.
If this were the rule of the Boo Casino, I could understand that 100%, but here are clear guidelines made
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I would not know what a complaint should bring. you can try it, but there will be no luck.
It is also not relevant how you interpret this.
The casino will adhere to the terms and conditions, and it says that you may not bet more than 5 euros.
That iat annoying, and I wish you that you get your money.
Gedanklicch you should but say goodbye to the money.
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What I think he wants to get at: in the terms and conditions he quotes it sounds so that at higher stakes than 10 euros not all the money is confiscated, but only the wins that arose from the spins that were higher than 5 euros
And I also think that at least from the paragraph he quoted here, you can understand it that way. You can definitely make that clearer.
On the other hand, one can interpret it however also in such a way like the Casino
What is now possibly due to a translation, I do not know.
@starter: write the money off first
You can still open a complaint here, as Marc said.
The chances of getting the money or at least a part are probably towards zero, but also depends on the casino I suppose.
From this: at the beginning you write 3-4 printers on 10 euros, now just 50% 5 euros, 50% 10 euros.... 🤔
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Which only under certain circumstances can become real and your money
Therefore, if the bonus conditions say maxbet is 5 euros and you play with 10 euros stake, then you violate the rules that lead to the money given away by the casino can really belong to you times
Since no lawyer can do what. I doubt even if the casino would sit in Germany and everything would be legal, that you could do then what. If I say I give you 10 euros when you jump and you just do a roll on the floor, then you would not get the 10 euros
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From the 10€ stake but only 5€ was ventured and not 10€
Why is that set like that?
Why do not you set that you can bet max 5€, this is obviously a trap
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Most do not, however, because they hope of course the players against the AGB vertsossen, like you.
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I understand what you mean, but the casinos are concerned with the fact that you play a maximum of 5 euros bet, even if you play with 10 euros bet and of these only 5 euros are bet. In some casinos, you get a warning before or can not even play with this stake. In most casinos, you can still do it. In the case of a win / payout, they then refer to their terms and conditions. Unfortunately, this is the case with most OCs, which then refer to the "stupidity / naivety" of the players (do not feel addressed...) is just a found food for the Maltese Bumbsbuden.
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