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Online Casinos in general: The big casino test - success looks different!

Topic created on 08th Apr. 2019 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 11 | Views: 3,821
Nick1895
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The big casino test - success looks different!

8th Apr. 2019, at 08:37 pm CEST#1
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After I have for almost 1 1/2 months in all OC only purebuttert, without a rudimentary reasonable payout to bring to state, we sat down today with 4 people and tested a few "renowned" OC. Of course, we played via our mobile data plan to avoid possible fraud (same IP address via WLAN). In total, we each bought 2 Paysafecards for 25 euros each. So off we went ... each of us has chosen 2 OC, in one we were already registered and a completely new to date. We played once with the Welcome bonus and once without a bonus. The providers included Play n Go, NetEnt, Pragmatic, YGGDRASIL, Quickspin, Red Tiger and Co. So after we had made our deposits and Bonuses were either accepted or ignored, the big test began .... After just 15 minutes, the credit was directly used up by 2 people (stake 20-40 cents = credit 25-75 euros (bonus). After 40 minutes the same misery happened to the rest of us. Wins were hardly or not at all present, if they were present, cheated the Multiplier maximum 50-100. All right, so it went now in the OC number Dos. Here we played again with / without bonus. End of the song: A friend has brought it in the meantime on 190 euros (use 20-60 cents this time), we others experienced the same as before in our first casino. The 190 euros were used up within 45 minutes, without a win worth mentioning! In which casinos we played, I leave now outside... however these belonged to different group and were also listed here in the forum. My / our conclusion: Sad, questionable and it smells slowly but surely like fraud on players. First of all: I myself have been playing for almost 5 years, every now and then with high wins and minimal dry spells... as most people here probably know it. My friends do not play as often as I do, but they also Deposit weekly with Provider X. Except for one friend, who is minimally in the plus since February, which he owes but also sports betting, we all experienced a kind of DeJaVu. No matter what game, no matter what casino, the possibility of winning is simply almost non-existent. To what extent the MGA is involved there, I may not judge... I do not want to spread conspiracy theories here, after all! But one thing is certain: For some weeks now, things have been going on here in a dubious way. Most of all I noticed that with slots like BOD, DoA or Bonanza. Where I there were weeks / even months in between always brilliant winning pictures / series, you look for these in vain. I don't want to say that they don't exist anymore, however the frequency has certainly been greatly reduced. We will definitely not leave any more money at OC for the time being, as it is simply no longer profitable and all joy of playing has been taken away. I personally hope that the laws will soon be drastically tightened and online gambling will be restricted or banned completely! Not because I don't begrudge some players their wins or because it puts me in financial distress, but because I don't wish these Maltese rip-off companies a single cent more. I also don't believe in coincidence/luck anymore... best example are the more and more frequent consequences of the banks up to even charges. Who nevertheless can not leave it, I wish of course further much success! For me, however, the topic has completely settled for the time being. I wish a nice evening

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Knochen
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The big casino test - success looks different!

8th Apr. 2019, at 08:44 pm CEST#2
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In most casinos the RTP of the slots has remained the same, so at least in the long run nothing has changed. Your story is written a bit confused, but if I understood correctly, then 4 people each deposited twice 25€? That's a total of 200€? The maximum profit was 190€? Do you notice anything?

People complain all the time that things are getting worse and conclude that the casino must have changed. Maybe some of these people have simply changed themselves because of gambling

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Mammon
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The big casino test - success looks different!

8th Apr. 2019, at 08:52 pm CEST#3
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Well, it's true that something has changed. There are only a few days on which you can win something. Somewhere I had read that there is the 25, 26 and 27zigsten in the month in game stores the best win

The same seems to be so now also in the OC only that there in my opinion from the 5th to the 8th in the month also still what goes. To the middle also again. In between emptiness to small wins.

If you look at the streamers it goes there also on several days only downhill.

So rather gamble only a little (everyone must find his days) and spend the days in between with the family.

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Nick1895
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The big casino test - success looks different!

8th Apr. 2019, at 09:04 pm CEST#4
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Bone wrote on 08.04.2019 at 20:44: In most casinos the RTP of the slots has remained the same, consequently nothing has changed at all, at least in the long run. Your story is written a bit confused, but if I understood correctly, 4 people deposited twice 25€ each? That's a total of 200€? The maximum profit was 190€? Do you notice anything?

People complain all the time that things are getting worse and conclude that the casino must have changed. Maybe some of these people have simply changed themselves because of gambling.

4 people, each 2x 25 euros deposited makes in the sum 200 euros, congratulations.... Math test passed! The highest sum, on which one of us came in the meantime, cheated 190 euro! What is so hard to understand now?! The main thing first on it loose grumble, before you understand the context even rudimentary... that are me the dearest people. Apparently you have not understood the sense of our attempt at all, right? Because it runs just for a period very badly, we have made this experiment! And the result of it does not speak positively for it. Don't worry, neither I, nor my friends have changed because of it! To us it was always only about the fun in the game, if one wins then naturally higher amounts in the meantime, it increased this naturally. If "I" Deposit in 25 different casinos, some of which are new territory, while others are tried and tested, and find the same pattern in all casinos without exception, you want to tell me that nothing has changed? Sorry, but that is bullshit. RTP back and forth, if I want / want / can influence something, then something like this is probably the least evil. I'm working in IT myself and I can tell you with a clear conscience that nowadays a lot of things are possible that some people don't even dare to dream about. However, my / our conclusion remains unchanged. If I belong of course to the small group, which are not concerned by it, I would not make myself also where many thoughts about it. However, if you would follow all the threads here, then you would see that it is not an isolated case, but in 8/10 users only since period X occurs. For this said reason, we have allowed ourselves this fun action today. There is nothing more to say about it now

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Knochen
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The big casino test - success looks different!

8th Apr. 2019, at 09:10 pm CEST#5
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Nick1895 wrote on 08/04/2019 at 21:04
4 people, each 2x 25 euros deposited makes in total 200 euros, congratulations.... Math test passed! The highest sum to which one of us has come in the meantime, fraud 190 euros! What is so hard to understand now?! The main thing first on it loose grumble, before you understand the context even rudimentary... that are me the dearest people. Apparently you have not understood the sense of our attempt at all, right? Because it runs just for a period very badly, we have made this experiment! And the result of it does not speak positively for it. Don't worry, neither I, nor my friends have changed because of it! To us it was always only about the fun in the game, if one wins then naturally higher amounts in the meantime, it increased this naturally. If "I" Deposit in 25 different casinos, some of which are new territory, while others are tried and tested, and find the same pattern in all casinos without exception, you want to tell me that nothing has changed? Sorry, but that is bullshit. RTP back and forth, if I want / want / can influence something, then something like this is probably the least evil. I'm working in IT myself and I can tell you with a clear conscience that nowadays a lot of things are possible that some people don't even dare to dream about. However, my / our conclusion remains unchanged. If I belong of course to the small group, which are not concerned by it, I would not make myself also where many thoughts about it. However, if you would follow all the threads here, then you would see that it is not an isolated case, but in 8/10 users only since period X occurs. For this said reason, we have allowed ourselves this fun action today. There is nothing more to say about it now

You didn't understand my point at all. No matter how you look at it

1: 200€ became 190€ ---> Looks pretty normal to me considering the house advantage from the casino, not unusual.

2: 3 players lose 50€, 1 player wins 140€ ---> also looks pretty normal.

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Nick1895
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The big casino test - success looks different!

8th Apr. 2019, at 09:14 pm CEST#6
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Bones wrote on 08/04/2019 at 21:10
You missed my point altogether. No matter how you look at it

1: 200€ became 190€ ---> Looks pretty normal to me considering the house edge from the casino, not unusual.

2: 3 players lose 50€, 1 player wins 140€ ---> also looks pretty normal.

No, the calculation would only work if you had played with exactly 25 euros and in the same casino. But it was different casinos and depending on the bonus, the balance was between 25-75 euros

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Timo0510
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The big casino test - success looks different!

8th Apr. 2019, at 10:31 pm CEST#7
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The big casino test

With such a headline you expect something.Then you and your 3 friends with nem Fuffi around the corner and you test 2 casinos with 50€ each...That's just enough for the coffee boy as a tip.With 500+ OC's you have really big research!

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Slot-Hunter
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The big casino test - success looks different!

8th Apr. 2019, at 10:47 pm CEST#8
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So I wouldn't call this a big casino test, you have far too few spins on the clock for that.

1) A single x1000 that could have happened would completely tear your statistics
2) You differentiate casinos but not the providers
3) I think the period of the "test" is much too small.

Counter-suggestion: Evaluate all your spins from the game progressions.

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Julian
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The big casino test - success looks different!

8th Apr. 2019, at 11:24 pm CEST#9
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I honestly do not understand how this "casino test" should indicate that this is all fraud.
From 2x 25€ PSC (?) became 190€. - And one of you 4 was temporarily well in the plus
It is of course extremely disappointing for the others, but that has gambling now times so ansich.

Irrelevant whether you gamble in a "Maltese rip-off company" as you had so beautifully described, or also in a "serious" German Spielothek with a TÜV seal... you will always draw the short straw because the casino always wins in the end.

Online you have at least the possibility to calculate your RTP or at least look at your game history, here are also publicly indicated by the respective providers the payout ratio. - Offline, the whole thing looks a little different.

Of course I don't want to manipulate you or talk everything up, it is and remains gambling... and I myself would actually advise you to use your negative experiences to keep away from gambling in general instead of dealing with any "tactics" to minimize your loss.
Believe me, it won't do you any good to register at other Online Casinos hoping for more "luck"
It would be very naive to think that this could work, or that you could "trick" the casinos... otherwise every second player would be a millionaire by now

I know to be honest also no one who is in the long run by gambling in the plus, there are of course exceptions of professional Poker players, players who win any jackpots or players who are actually so disciplined after a big win to keep away from it afterwards.


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Jenges
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The big casino test - success looks different!

9th Apr. 2019, at 07:55 am CEST#10
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I took the big lotto test yesterday with three friends from the employment office. It would be important for me to emphasize the "big",

We each got a lottery ticket for one euro. Chantale glued on a moustache so that we wouldn't be identified as regulars.

We removed the serial numbers from the banknotes beforehand.

What can I say? It's starting to smell like fraud around here. None of our tickets won. I don't wish this German rip-off company Lotto any good anymore! This has nothing to do with coincidence!

I will now always play Lotto only at the beginning of the month. I have a suspicion that you win the most on the 3rd and 4th. People have received benefits at the beginning of the month, then the lotto Jackpot no one else wants.

Have a nice day to you all.

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