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Online Casinos in general: The agony of choice (Page 5)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 5 of 6 | Answers: 52 | Views: 11,530
Anonym

The agony of choice

16th Jan. 2019, at 11:53 am CET#41
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SevenEleven wrote on 01/16/2019 09:28 PM



What do the "outcome is predetermined" claimants think about this? Do you think it doesn't matter if I choose Hades or Zeus in Rise of Olympus - I will win (because it's already predetermined) exactly €23.47 each?

I assume that it is similar to the boxes select already determined which amount will be won. We know this e.g. from the Prize Picker in DaVinci from Pragmatic. Playing it out as the reels spin is nothing more than a successful and captivating presentation. If you don't believe it, just unscrew an ATM and look at the stepper motors on the reels or wheels, they are there to stop the game at exactly the point the computer/random generator has calculated before. You can buy them for a few Euros on ebay. An explanation for laymen can be found here:

http://stefan-baur.de/technik/erklaerung-fuer-laien-wie-funktionieren-spielautomaten/

Don't misunderstand, but anyone who thinks that everything is really left to chance without the Provider of the games intervening in a drastic way can hardly be helped. I also like to gamble, but I am realistic about the actual chances and possibilities. If you see the whole thing as a hobby and have yourself under control, you have a lot of fun for your money.

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RiverSong
Legend

The agony of choice

16th Jan. 2019, at 01:31 pm CET#42
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SevenEleven wrote on 01/16/2019 09:28: This is about games with free spins choices (e.g. like Rise of Olympus or Immortal Romance). I once heard about this, that such games are quasi divided into two sections - the base game and the respective or chosen free spins feature. And even if the result for both sections is fixed beforehand (no real reels are spinning, of course) - the "fact" is that feature A has a different win amount set as the result than feature B, and depending on what I choose, I may or may not win. Sounds logical to me.

in games like cloud quest, it's like the boxes, no matter which fighter you choose --> same result.

in games like moon princess / rise of olympus there should really be 3 different final scores in the bonusgame, because the features are also different --> this can't be proven unless the programmer tells you what's going on

and Basegame which leads to the feature --> this should also be correct with 2 own fixed values

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SevenEleven
Experienced

The agony of choice

16th Jan. 2019, at 03:48 pm CET#43
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Totoro wrote on 01/16/2019 11:53 AM
I suspect that similar to picking boxes, it is already determined what amount will be won.

You guess. Ok. I like that wording better than a clumsily asserted "I know". But this only on the edge...:-)



Don't misunderstand, but anyone who thinks that everything is really left to chance without the Provider of the games intervening in a drastic way can hardly be helped.

I don't think that EVERYTHING is left to chance. But I also don't think that NOTHING is left to chance. I think that so-called coincidences are also "allowed" - of course only within a previously defined framework


Generally:
If I were convinced that EVERYTHING is predetermined and only lies and deception, I would automatically stop (have to) play. I would feel otherwise - in case of the further play - unbearably stupid. Conclusion: I am aware that OCs sell an illusion in the form of colorful pictures/features and a certain winprobability. Both are enough for me.

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SevenEleven
Experienced

The agony of choice

16th Jan. 2019, at 03:49 pm CET#44
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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 01/16/2019 1:31 PM

with games like cloud quest it's like with the boxes, no matter which fighter you choose --> same result.

with games like moon princess / rise of olympus there should really be 3 different final scores in the bonusgame, because the features are also different --> you can't prove that unless the programmer tells you what's up

and Basegame which leads to the feature --> this should also be correct with 2 own fixed values

I don't check your last statement.

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RiverSong
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The agony of choice

16th Jan. 2019, at 04:05 pm CET#45
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do you mean the last sentence? you had written
--> that such games are quasi divided into two sections - the base game and the respective or selected free play feature. And even if the respective result for both sections is already determined in advance
now check?

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Zwischenmeister
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The agony of choice

16th Jan. 2019, at 06:24 pm CET#46
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Let's talk about another kind of choice in freespins. What do you think, in games like Secret of the Stones, Golden Fish Tank, Secret of Christmas etc., do you REALLY have influence on which features you get before the free spins? For example, wild reel, multipliers, additional spins, symbol X=wild and all that. Or is it already fixed which features you choose "randomly" and it doesn't matter which stone, shell or Christmas stocking you click on. I've been asking myself that for a long time, maybe even who knows something concrete?

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Gratler
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The agony of choice

16th Jan. 2019, at 11:14 pm CET#47
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Zwischenmeister wrote on 01/16/2019 at 18:24: Times to another kind of choice in freespins. What do you think, with games like Secret of the Stones, Golden Fish Tank, Secret of Christmas etc., do you REALLY have influence on which features you get before the free spins? For example, wild reel, multipliers, additional spins, symbol X=wild and all that. Or is it already fixed which features you choose "randomly" and it doesn't matter which stone, shell or Christmas stocking you click on. I've been asking myself that for a long time, maybe even who knows something concrete?

I'm pretty sure that the selection was already made automatically in advance and it doesn't matter what you select

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Anonym

The agony of choice

16th Jan. 2019, at 11:43 pm CET#48
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SevenEleven
Experienced

The agony of choice

17th Jan. 2019, at 09:23 am CET#49
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Ankor wrote on 01/14/2019 12:36 PM: Almost always took Zeus on Rise of Olympus because I see him as the safest option.

Immortal almost always took Troy or Michael. Scamber and drunken Sarah were never nice to me

Phantom of the Opera. Sadly, the pick game was the least disappointing (often extra picks and multiple 50x per pick at the end)

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High Danger Voltage - here I always chose the wild feature

The Odd Forest - Sticky Wilds

Otherwise I can't remember too much. When I am at home I can look again.


Immortal Romance:
Screw Troy and Michael.
I'm letting nothing come on x5-Amber in the FS since yesterday in conjunction with... I think it was... 3x Sarah and 3 Wilds.

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SevenEleven
Experienced

The agony of choice

17th Jan. 2019, at 09:24 am CET#50
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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 01/16/2019 4:05 PM
cHECK NOW?

I BELIEVE. And in that case, "believe" is good enough for me.

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