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Online Casinos in general: The agony of choice (Page 3)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 3 of 6 | Answers: 52 | Views: 11,364
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Elite
However, the pictures do not trigger the win, they represent it graphically. Somewhere in the background a random number decides about it. The reels are not really spinning in your screen

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Anonym

Begbie wrote on 01/15/2019 2:36 pm: it's bullshit. believe me. keyword: true coincidence.

A number is calculated in advance and this number X results in an image Y. What's hard to understand about that?


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You don't actually believe that the machine or the slot itself is overwhelmed by the result and thinks to itself, "Holla die Waldfee, now I'm surprised". Wake up! It's all calculated in advance and to your disadvantage, otherwise the whole thing wouldn't be a billion-dollar business.

If gambling with real coincidence is in demand, then only Roulette is possible, in this case the European version because the house advantage is lower than, for example, in the American version.

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Begbie
Elite
the difference is, you believe that it is so and so, i on the other hand know that it is so and so
the mathematics sits in the neighbor's office. just let it be

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Anonym

Begbie wrote on 01/15/2019 at 14:43: the description implies that the win is already determined before the graphical representation, but this is not so due to the real randomness...
only the real coincidence generates the images

This is total nonsense. Sorry, but that is naive, but as a 7 year old I also thought that....

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Anonym

Begbie wrote on 01/15/2019 at 2:55 pm: the difference is, you think it's so and so, whereas I know it's so and so
the math is sitting in the neighbor's office. just leave well alone

What kind of stupid and unimaginative reasoning is that? Just because I studied computer science doesn't make me stupid because your neighbor's office has your 7 year old son's math book in it. Come on, give it a rest.

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Begbie
Elite
your way of arguing will get you further at the table. but it has nothing to do with the facts.

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Begbie
Elite
furthermore, the content of the link on the gj explanation page is not precise enough or outdated.
the RNG mentioned there is in fact only a PRNG, a pseudo-random-number-generator.
currently, however, the (well-known) manufacturers actually use TRNGs, true-random-number-generators.

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Anonym
Obviously, we are talking past each other. Let's start from the beginning.

My assertion that the result of the draw is already known in advance, before the "reels" start spinning, still stands. The way the random numbers are determined does not change this. The result remains the same because the determination of the random happens well before the result is presented/displayed. Understand?

What now the math book in the next room has to do with it is beyond me. However, I suspect that you want to make yourself more important than you actually are or just wanted to babble on. Correct?

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Begbie
Elite
no, unfortunately not correct. i'm sorry for you
i can call the mathematics also game-design team, if you can start something with it. and design has nothing to do with pictures here.
but what am i talking about? keep poltering at the table. there you are better off with your way ^^

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Begbie wrote on 01/15/2019 at 15:08: furthermore the content of the link on the gj explanation page is not precise enough or outdated.
the RNG they talk about is in fact only a PRNG, a pseudo-random-number-generator.
currently, however, the (well-known) manufacturers actually use TRNGs, true-random-number-generators.

I always thought that randomness was not programmable. How does a TRNG work?

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