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Online Casinos in general: Streamer preferred? (Page 2)

Topic created on 04th Jun. 2018 | Page: 2 of 6 | Answers: 51 | Views: 14,137
Daniel
Elite
LABoy90 wrote on 04/06/2018 at 05:24 PM

Again for you:
The casino always has the advantage nevertheless thanks to fair RTP everyone can win if he is lucky.
Long term the casino wins.
Have you understood now or do I have to post it again?

Well, the RTP is not so fair and the game manufacturers can already trick a lot. For example, pay out several small interim winnings, which you as a player anyway gambles away again. If you win back 95% of your bet on every spin, then the AQ of 95% is reached but you still never have a chance to get into the plus - such a game would of course be stinking boring and would have no success. In Book of Ra you could also change the reels so that it is even less likely to get the highest winning picture, you just put in more symbols like K or J and remove a few explorer symbols. You can make it so that only a few players win well and the masses lose more without changing the payout ratio negatively. This would also be legitimate and not fraud or Manipulation as stkrie suspects.

Of course, the maximum win (as indicated in the paytable) must be possible but how high the chances are can unfortunately not be seen from the paytable and that is also my point of criticism. In my opinion, the probabilities should be indicated in the winnings table. So that, for example, next to the explorer is a decimal number, so that you can understand as a player how high the probability of individual winning pictures are.

One should write to all the game developers and also all the responsible authorities and maybe this will be implemented one day. Maybe even on a voluntary basis by one or the other game developer.

stkrie wrote on 04.06.2018 at 05:19: If you had bothered to read LABoy`s posts, you would know what it is all about, and why he is upsetting some
upset here. Not only is his cheap advertising annoying, he is suggesting to people, play and you
and you will win big.
to that he attacks people here perrnament!
I'm not the only one who sees this.
If you read it, and think it's good too, or don't recognize anything,
then perhaps you've lost sight of the subtleties over the years.

He makes it similar to bone subtly, and not as obviously as I do, that's true.
but that seems to notice only a few here.

I don't mean that you criticize him either - it's perfectly ok and the forum is free for any opinion. Critical opinions are also allowed
If you would expose here that behind everything is really the mafia and if you would expose here that the slots are really controlled by the casinos, then I would like that. I would even find it awesome if this was exposed on GambleJoe, even if it is negative for the whole industry in the short term. But such a scandal is also always an opportunity to positively impact the industry in the long run.
As I said, all good. This is also not a warning from me or anything like that. Understand this as criticism. It's about your tone of voice, which for me is sometimes really hard on the border.

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thebutcher85
Amateur

of course streamers have advantages that others do not have .let's just call him


Streamer A: gets for each Deposit a bonus of 100-500%, has his affiliates link income, twitch/youtube income and partly yes fixed payments from the casino + possible wins there you can already see that you can not keep up as a normal player there



how Risk casino has created his videos should know most before the whole online casino stuff he has only made videos of Merkur / Bally wulff machines. (these are free to buy / rent for everyone) why probably his videos should create the feeling they were made in the spielo but in reality the machines were at his home. he has played with his own devices and thus had no loss.


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Daniel
Elite
thebutcher85 wrote on 04.06.2018 at 05:38

how Risk casino has created his videos should know most before all the online casino stuff he has only made videos of Merkur/bally wulff machines. (these are free to buy/rent for everyone) why probably his videos should create the feeling they were made in the spielo but in reality the machines were at his home. so he played with his own devices and thus had no loss.



Yes above all he had allegedly played in a gambling house and at the beginning of his "career" had put a paper sticker with the writing "risk casino" on the automats. Which Spielothek would go along with that^^

That's what I mean about the intelligence of the industry. It's just so obviously faked that really no one who still somehow managed the 4th grade believes it. Now you would have to think: "Ok, the one from Risikocasino is just very amateurish but there will be no online casino that wants to cooperate with him and put his reputation on the line". And then the OVO Casino comes around the corner, sees the subscription number and plays some insane winning videos, where everyone who has only played twice in a Novomatic online casino recognizes that there is something wrong.

This industry is really too bad to plan such large-scale conspiracies and keep them going for several years / decades. After all, I do not only work as a casino Affiliate, but I am also somewhat involved in other industries. In any other industry, affiliates are better chosen. For example, if you make a credit page about online loans and there is only one Provider among them that could be critical, then they refuse to cooperate. Even if you post content that could only be somewhat critical, they refuse to cooperate.

For example, I once had a credit page and there was an article titled "Credit for the unemployed". I warned in this article against dubious providers and listed Auxmoney as the only reputable provider where there is a chance for a small loan up to 1,000€. I also wrote that it is not recommended to take a loan as an unemployed person. And I wrote that because I myself was once unemployed and at that time got there a loan in the amount of 1,000€. Nevertheless, a two weeks later almost all other providers have written to me that I should remove the article or they terminate the cooperation.

How is it in this industry? There are illegal Online Casinos without gambling license and fake slots (which are probably really run by the Russian mafia), advertised next to online casinos with original games. If I were an online casino, I would immediately terminate the cooperation if the fake casins are not removed. If I were Novomatic, then I would even try to take legal action against the affiliates if they do not end the cooperation with these casinos. There are also many fake Rolex on the market. But Rolex would never cooperate with a retail store if that store offers fake watches along with original products and doesn't even educate about it.

The industry has a strong intelligence problem and that is also really something that personally p**ses me off about this industry!

Update: While searching for the videos with stickers on the machines, I found out that RisikoCasino also lost his Youtube channel. At that time he said that because he works so seriously, he will not lose his channel. Lose do only those who have no idea and unseriös work^^ The new channel has 910 Abbos and is now called Mr. Risikocasino.

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s****e
Well, it has come out a bit that the casino industry is infiltrated. I don't think
that it's just one. And that Malta is not interested in clarification, was also to be seen.
The article was already very clear!

The LABoy here constantly emphasizes how great everything is, and that all here fat win
can then surely also read. I find that impossible. This obvious,
what he puts on the day, is really annoying. And I'm not alone in feeling that way.
Everything is fair, and the RTP so great and at all......
You know yourself how quickly some are hooked here, and he is definitely not telling the truth

Then the thing with players who fall for the bonus rules. Instead of explaining something
to explain something, here it is hammered in. Subliminal how stupid you have to be, do you read because no
AGB `s etc. You know just like me, why the AGB`s of casinos so snd as they are
And this has nothing to do with obviousness, as claimed by LABoy, but it is tried,
to rip off. And this rip-off system still for approve, there I can burst.
So either someone like that works for a casino, or he's just jaded.
People come here, the world collapses because they do not get paid 5000€,
and then LABoy and co. come along like, God, you're stupid.

That can't be right. Where LABoy anyway represents some double account
Also this suspect several
I speak or write it out, that is the only difference!


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thebutcher85
Amateur
stkrie

it's certainly not all great and shiny but you can't see everything negatively either. this is where people report when they have a problem, whether it's "self-inflicted" or not. but hardly anyone will register for this just to say hey, I've won once or a few times now. that is like with the own perception I can remember also to certain events better than to others because I focus more on them. only an example from my trunk spielo at that time: I gambled there almost daily the hall was open 24h because I work in the shift service and also free days in the week have was available almost every time of day. i was in the hall a highroller 2-5 € never below. losses between 500-1500 euros in a session often occurred but no one has seen it always said only: look at the has again tsd on it or the has cleared again last night and we never win that I but z.b 4 days long only lost was never mentioned it was always only seen as I win (mostly it was then 10-20 cent players who complained that they never win such sums (this is not to be devaluation everyone plays with the budget he has at his disposal ) ) so it is more noticeable here when people complain than vice versa.

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L****0
Absolutely correct observation!
You should also only bet what you can afford.
Then nothing stands in the way of an exhilarating gaming experience.

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Tropper
Top Member
In my opinion, streamers are preferred.
I already look at theöfteren streamers (shirox, ct24 (now he's gone), Rex borgeson and how they are all called... also on youtube (Spielemacher, MZA (lol))
All have something in common... they get heavy hits!!!!

MZA who has also now become Affiliate, all are now also online on the road and I've never seen (except with Shirox gaaaanz at the beginning (since he was not yet so well known) there are hardly feeding phases.
The youtuber throw out videos, they are partly incredible. The streamers, on the other hand, stream live and of course the one or other bullet is lost but then when they have already lost with Bonuses (realmoney vllt 400€) get a good hit and the balance goes higher and higher. End of the song, they are back in the plus.


I explain it to me so: Streamer and youtuber have a very high reach, there are several thousand viewers with a streamer behind it or even more and because they see that you more or less always get his money plus vllt some pocket money in addition (as with the streamers) sign up in various OC 's (eg Lapalingo (why every streamer lapalingo as a main casino has I do not know) gets not only the streamer affiliate money but the casino gets another customer. I do not even want to know how much customers from the data are worth...

It is suggested to the viewers through the various channels (twitch, youtube) that OC 's are fun and that you are always plus / minus 0 anyway and never exist proper feeding phases.
I think that is fraudulent deception, exactly the same that partly in the free TV of Wunderino now TV advertising runs or Mr.Green.
Everywhere where a lot of money flows the end customer is fooled!

In this sense
Tropper

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Knochen
Elite
Daniel wrote on 04.06.2018 at 06:09
Yes especially he had allegedly played in a gambling house and at the beginning of his "career" put a paper sticker with the words "Risk casino" on the machines. What gambling house would go along with that^^

That's what I mean about the intelligence of the industry. It's just so obviously faked that really no one believes it who has still somehow managed the 4th grade. Now you would have to think: "Ok, the one from Risikocasino is just very amateurish but there will be no online casino that wants to cooperate with him and put his reputation on the line". And then the OVO Casino comes around the corner, sees the subscription number and plays some insane winning videos, where everyone who has only played twice in a Novomatic online casino recognizes that there is something wrong.

This industry is really too bad to plan such large-scale conspiracies and keep them going for several years / decades. After all, I do not only work as a casino Affiliate, but I am also somewhat involved in other industries. In any other industry, affiliates are better chosen. For example, if you make a credit page about online loans and there is only one Provider among them that could be critical, then they refuse to cooperate. Even if you post content that could be critical, they refuse to cooperate.

For example, I once had a credit page and there was an article titled "Credit for the unemployed". I warned in this article against dubious providers and listed Auxmoney as the only reputable provider where there is a chance for a small loan up to 1,000€. I also wrote that it is not recommended to take a loan as an unemployed person. And I wrote that because I myself was once unemployed and at that time got there a loan in the amount of 1,000€. Nevertheless, a two weeks later almost all other providers have written to me that I should remove the article or they terminate the cooperation.

How is it in this industry? There are illegal Online Casinos without gambling license and fake slots (which are probably really run by the Russian mafia), advertised next to online casinos with original games. If I were an online casino, I would immediately terminate the cooperation if the fake casins are not removed. If I were Novomatic, then I would even try to take legal action against the affiliates if they do not end the cooperation with these casinos. There are also many fake Rolex on the market. But Rolex would never cooperate with a retail store if that store offers fake watches along with original products and doesn't even educate about it.

The industry has a strong intelligence problem and that is also really something that personally p**ses me off about this industry!

Update: While searching for the videos with stickers on the machines, I found out that RisikoCasino also lost his Youtube channel. At that time he said that because he works so seriously, he will not lose his channel. Only those who have no idea and work unseriously will lose their channel^^ The new channel has 910 subscribers and is now called Mr. Risk Casino

I seem to remember that RiskCasino said in one of his videos back then that the "gambling industry" provides him with a room in which he can make his videos. If you wonder if for example MzA cheated, you only have to look at RisikoCasino. No one has such wins on a daily basis. They were always absolute big wins and he was happy commenting loudly - that's not possible in any casino. MzA, on the other hand, simply put in what he could. I have no experience with streamers because I also find it boring, but I think if someone plays 10 hours a day, he inevitably has some top big wins. The only thing that screams fraud here is the financing of the whole thing.

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J****r
It always seemed strange to me when a Streamer streams regularly and then wins in the thousands every time. Anyone who knows the online casino world knows better.
I don't watch any streamers anymore except for ENZ and OCT. Although OCT has shitty in the past, I find the streams entertaining. Unfortunately, nothing more comes from them at the moment. And ENZ just comes across very authentic & symphatic, especially he also loses sometimes and not only wins. And he openly admits to being an Affiliate where he plays, but he plays with his own money and only "earns" a minimal percentage of the registrations and turnover if you register there via his link. I think I have gained so much experience in the field that I also take it from him and consider it legitimate. Since you can be happy when he lands a big hit.

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Broddy
So I also stream from time to time... & Am Affilliate Partner have now also asked if the casinos offer me a bonus...

But as for the wins... I have also often made from 20-30 € -> 4000 €... But also times 1000€ lost... it's just also a game of chance.

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