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4th Jun. 2018, at 03:08 am CEST#1
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The casinos are going crazy about streamers, it doesn't look serious anymore, the following videos are - except for Roshtein - only from the last 5 days.
But you have already seen the stakes that the guys play? jartu for example 50€ there are the 25000€ 500x and daskele in each stream he plays bonanza std lang on 20€da is the chance high that times ne "bomb" comes today z.b he has made loose 7k € minus something is not seen.
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4th Jun. 2018, at 04:04 am CEST#3
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Where are you going with this thread?
I can't see anything striking here.
As the butcher rightly says, the players are betting with significantly higher stakes.
Consequently, the consequence is significantly higher wins.
The RTP is also respected here, if you were to play for hours every day for such sums, you would also bring in such wins significantly more often.
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4th Jun. 2018, at 04:12 am CEST#4
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The bald one in particular has had a lot more big wins. Often to the maximum payout
of a slot
Some do not see that their whole life. Ask around here, how many here have already had
had 5 explorers. He had them
And still some more, that is only a small selection of him!
Even if the hardcore play is no longer
credible.
Look, how much here alone in the forum gamble, and look at the winning pictures.
that is in zero relation, despite all the time and number of spins, the verballern.
Believe alone here the people gamble the umpteen times of Kahlkopp here, and nevertheless hardly
of such images.
Go back to sleep, ladyboy, and don't talk shit here.
The only thing you can do is to get people to gamble.
Do some more pathetic advertising!
The casinos have already produced enough addicts, but it doesn't matter to a characterless
a characterless person like you anyway.
You live from it.
You always make it seem as if winning in a casino is a matter of course.
Disgusting something like that
The RTP is also respected here.
What a mindless babble!
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4th Jun. 2018, at 04:27 am CEST#5
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stkrie wrote on 04/06/2018 at 04:12 PM
a mindless rant!
It goes without saying that the casino has a house edge, that's how the gambling industry works, but it's in the 0.% range if the right games are followed, see video Poker for example.
Still, the advantage is with the casino, no one disputes that.
But that doesn't mean you can't win a lot, you don't see any winners here? I see a nice 30 000 euro win at Wunderino this week alone (See complaint thread!) and Daniel nice 40 000 euro win.
To gamble I animate no one, we are here in a casino forum if you have not noticed yet Gamble translated means known gambling comes from the English.
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4th Jun. 2018, at 04:44 am CEST#6
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That's exactly what I mean. You are suggesting to the people here that you can clear really fat. You attract the gamblers here,
nothing more. A cheap scam that hopefully everyone will see through. Just like your pathetic profit picture of the
14x Bet. Wanted to make fun of yourself with the picture?
The only win I see is Daniels.
The 30,000€ is still in the forum.
And I want proof. You know how it is, you can tell a lot.
Do you also have proof of the 30,000€ from Wunderino, or did you open an account again?
Go back to sleep ladyboy and don't talk shit here.
The only thing you know how to do is talk people into gambling.
Do some more pathetic advertising!
The casinos have already produced enough addicts, but it doesn't matter to a characterless
but that doesn't matter to a characterless person like you.
You live from it.
Why do you keep attacking people here personally who don't share your opinion? How do you know if Laboy has no character and why should Laboy want to persuade people to gamble. Why would he advertise here? Do you think that the casinos here all work together and send some people here to the forum to advertise for the whole industry? The industry is too stupid for that and there are too many vested interests involved. If Laboy was from an online casino or an Affiliate, he would have advertised his casino or website somewhere long ago
I have talked to so many casino managers and really 90% of them have nothing in their heads. They would not even be mentally capable of such a conspiracy. Most of them are not able to plan and think long term. After my depression I had to work a few months in a workshop for handicapped people (for rehabilitation) to get a further education financed. 90% of the disabled there had more brains than most casino managers. Many of the "handicapped" there were not handicapped at all in the sense, but were highly qualified people who had just had a burnout and were no longer able to work. But even the really handicapped with Down syndrome would rather be able to raise such conspiracies - without it being uncovered. You overestimate it all completely.
To the streamers:
Personally, I am also convinced that a large part of the streamers are faking in one way or another. Especially I don't believe the story behind most streamers. Some people come out of nowhere and play every day without a break with stakes that only millionaires can afford. And as a millionaire, you don't need to have your gambling financed by advertising and show your face everywhere - it's not entirely harmless when you're rich. I just wonder who these people are?
I can't believe any stories about poor students who sell all their belongings, somehow scrape together 15,000€ and then Risk the entire sum in one go at Roulette and win.
Or how should it be possible, for example, to play 9 hours a day on stakes from 2€? If you play 9 hours a day on at least 2€ / spin, then ALWAYS the payout ratio / the mathematics takes effect and you can calculate the losses theoretically almost cent exactly. A Streamer who plays 9 hours a day on 2€ makes about 10.000 spins per day, 300.000 spins per month or about 3.500.000 spins per year. Sure, there are sometimes the 5 explorers or even several times but the losses per spin would still be 10 cents per spin at an AQ of 95% (in the long run). With 3.5 million spins per year, that would be a sure loss of 350,000€ per year. And with so many spins the 350.000€ loss is for sure! With so many spins, luck no longer plays a role. At 3.6 million spins per year, everyone loses the same amount - perhaps with minimal fluctuations.
Of course, with so many spins there are also phases where it just runs. There can also be 2x 5 explorers in a row - with so many spins, anything is possible. Nevertheless, the final result is a big minus in any case.
How do the streamers do it?
1. The streamers are directly employed by the casinos and play with the casinos' money. You can tell when a streamer plays in only one casino for years.
2. The streamers are affiliates and get for each Deposit an insane bonus of, for example, 500% or more or they get streaming capital in the form of a bonus. Online Casinos Tube got caught in the process, with OCT certainly playing with real money most of the time. The few times they played with streaming money, they acted stupidly and got caught.
3. Risk casino had at that time also Book of Ra 6 on 5€ bet 6 explorers get. That was not during a stream, but a normal Youtube video. It was noticeable that the spin number was smaller than if you had played normally. Where does this come from? RiskCasino started working with OVO Casino at that time. The win was real but the win was not made by RiskCasino, but by another player at a much earlier time (which is why the spin number was much smaller). OVO Casino simply looked in his list and picked out a big win and simply by means of replay mode (in the Greentube / Novomatic games this works) this win again (without the writing replay mode) played, recorded and sent to RiskCasino. He then commented on it afterwards and the whole thing was done. Unfortunately I can't find the video anywhere anymore. Perhaps it was deleted because too many had noticed this - it shows again how intelligent or stupid some casino / affiliate managers are.
Mostly it runs but as mentioned in point 1 or 2. The players play under real conditions but with insane Bonuses or streaming money. I personally don't watch streams because it's too boring for me to watch other people gamble. I do watch winning videos when I've lost a lot on a slot to see what could theoretically happen. But I never watch whole streams. So I can't judge if people have long losing streaks or not.
How do the casinos do it?
The whole thing is not free for the casinos either. Assuming an online casino transfers 5.000€ to a streamer and the streamer plays with it, the casino still has to pay the license fees to the game manufacturers, which is estimated between 5% - 10% of the lost stake or a smaller part of the turnover, depending on the game manufacturer. So 5.000€ costs a casino between 250€ and 500€. If 3 new customers can be found viA***5,000€ stream, then it has paid off for the casino in the long run. Actually, one to two new customers would be enough on average, but the streamer also earns money from it.
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4th Jun. 2018, at 05:18 am CEST#8
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Daniel wrote on 04/06/2018 at 05:07 PM
Why do you actually keep personally attacking people here who don't share your opinion? How do you know if Laboy has no character and why would Laboy want to persuade people to gamble. Why would he advertise here? Do you think that the casinos here all work together and send some people here to the forum to advertise for the whole industry? The industry is too stupid for that and there are too many vested interests involved. If Laboy was from an online casino or an Affiliate, he would have already advertised his casino or website somewhere
I have talked to so many casino managers and really 90% of them have nothing in their heads. They would not even be mentally capable of such a conspiracy. Most of them are not able to plan and think long term. After my depression I had to work a few months in a workshop for handicapped people (for rehabilitation) to get a further education financed. 90% of the disabled there had more brains than most casino managers. Many of the "handicapped" there were not handicapped at all in the sense, but were highly qualified people who had just had a burnout and were no longer able to work. But even the really handicapped with Down syndrome would rather be able to raise such conspiracies - without it being uncovered. You overestimate it all completely.
To the streamers:
Personally, I am also convinced that a large part of the streamers are faking in one way or another. Especially I don't believe the story behind most streamers. Some people come out of nowhere and play every day without a break with stakes that only millionaires can afford. And as a millionaire, you don't need to have your gambling financed by advertising and show your face everywhere - it's not entirely harmless when you're rich. I just wonder who these people are?
I can't believe any stories about poor students who sell all their belongings, somehow scrape together 15,000€ and then Risk the entire sum in one go at Roulette and win.
Or how should it be possible, for example, to play 9 hours a day on stakes from 2€? If you play 9 hours a day on at least 2€ / spin, then ALWAYS the payout ratio / the mathematics takes effect and you can calculate the losses theoretically almost cent exactly. A Streamer who plays 9 hours a day on 2€ makes about 10.000 spins per day, 300.000 spins per month or about 3.500.000 spins per year. Sure, there are sometimes the 5 explorers or even several times but the losses per spin would still be 10 cents per spin at an AQ of 95% (in the long run). With 3.5 million spins per year, that would be a sure loss of 350,000€ per year. And with so many spins the 350.000€ loss is for sure! With so many spins, luck no longer plays a role. At 3.6 million spins per year, everyone loses the same amount - perhaps with minimal fluctuations.
How do the streamers do it?
1. The streamers are directly employed by the casinos and play with the casinos' money. You can tell if a streamer always plays in only one casino for years.
2. The streamers are affiliates and get for each Deposit an insane bonus of, for example, 500% or more or they get streaming capital in the form of a bonus. Online Casinos Tube got caught in the process, with OCT certainly playing with real money most of the time. The few times they played with streaming money, they acted stupidly and got caught.
3. Risk casino had at that time also Book of Ra 6 on 5€ bet 6 explorers get. That was not during a stream, but a normal Youtube video. It was noticeable that the spin number was smaller than if you had played normally. Where does this come from? RiskCasino started working with OVO Casino at that time. The win was real but the win was not made by RiskCasino, but by another player at a much earlier time (which is why the spin number was much smaller). OVO Casino simply looked in his list and picked out a big win and simply by means of replay mode (in the Greentube / Novomatic games this works) this win again (without the writing replay mode) played, recorded and sent to RiskCasino. He then commented on it afterwards and the whole thing was done. Unfortunately I can't find the video anywhere anymore. Perhaps it was deleted because too many had noticed this - it shows again how intelligent or stupid some casino / affiliate managers are.
Mostly it runs but as mentioned in point 1 or 2. The players play under real conditions but with insane Bonuses or streaming money. I personally don't watch streams because it's too boring for me to watch other people gamble. I do watch winning videos when I've lost a lot on a slot to see what could theoretically happen. But I never watch whole streams. So I can't judge if people have long losing streaks or not.
Thanks Daniel, the user is unfortunately just annoying.
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4th Jun. 2018, at 05:19 am CEST#9
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If you had bothered to read LABoy`s posts, you would know what it is all about, and why he is upsetting some
here. Not only his cheap advertising is annoying, he suggests people play and you will win big
and you will win big.
to that he attacks people here perrnament!
I'm not the only one who sees this.
If you read it, and think it's good too, or don't recognize anything,
then perhaps you've lost sight of the subtleties over the years.
He makes it similar to bone subtly, and not as obviously as I do, that's true.
but that seems to notice only a few here.
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4th Jun. 2018, at 05:24 am CEST#10
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stkrie wrote on 04/06/2018 at 05:19: If you had bothered to read LABoy`s posts, you would know what he is about, and why he upsets some
upset here. Not only is his cheap advertising annoying, he is suggesting to people, play and you
and you will win big.
to that he attacks people here perrnament!
I'm not the only one who sees this.
If you read it, and think it's good too, or don't recognize anything,
then perhaps you've lost sight of the subtleties over the years.
He makes it similar to bone subtly, and not as obviously as I do, that's true.
but that seems to notice only a few here.
Again for you:
The casino always has the advantage, yet thanks to fair RTP everyone can win if they are lucky.
Long term the casino wins.
Have you understood now or do I have to post it again?
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Watch the video from 25:00 to 35:00.
Within 10 minutes the Streamer makes:
From 32€ 2048 euros.
From 24€ 1536 euros.
From 48€ 6144 euros.
All in one session then in the same video a few X167 Bonuses in Danger High Voltage etc...
Well runs also at the Casinotester with Spin 1 free spins on 20€ receives the then also pay about X50 times.
Honestly who should believe that?
Mister Hello Youtubäää fetches 25.000€ on 5€ bonus.
Such a thing does not work every day, of course? With him the day after, it's 10,000€ in the free games.
Is that it? Of course not.
Slotspinner turns 4€ into 1545€.
And more have luck also the good man bags times even 10,000€
Poor Roshtein won the last time about 26.000€ on 26.5
2 days before he won 61.000€ at Book of Dead
I'm going by upload date of each video here.
Don't you find the streamer's streak strange?
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I can't see anything striking here.
As the butcher rightly says, the players are betting with significantly higher stakes.
Consequently, the consequence is significantly higher wins.
The RTP is also respected here, if you were to play for hours every day for such sums, you would also bring in such wins significantly more often.
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of a slot
Some do not see that their whole life. Ask around here, how many here have already had
had 5 explorers. He had them
And still some more, that is only a small selection of him!
Even if the hardcore play is no longer
credible.
Look, how much here alone in the forum gamble, and look at the winning pictures.
that is in zero relation, despite all the time and number of spins, the verballern.
Believe alone here the people gamble the umpteen times of Kahlkopp here, and nevertheless hardly
of such images.
Go back to sleep, ladyboy, and don't talk shit here.
The only thing you can do is to get people to gamble.
Do some more pathetic advertising!
The casinos have already produced enough addicts, but it doesn't matter to a characterless
a characterless person like you anyway.
You live from it.
You always make it seem as if winning in a casino is a matter of course.
Disgusting something like that
The RTP is also respected here.
What a mindless babble!
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It goes without saying that the casino has a house edge, that's how the gambling industry works, but it's in the 0.% range if the right games are followed, see video Poker for example.
Still, the advantage is with the casino, no one disputes that.
But that doesn't mean you can't win a lot, you don't see any winners here? I see a nice 30 000 euro win at Wunderino this week alone (See complaint thread!) and Daniel nice 40 000 euro win.
To gamble I animate no one, we are here in a casino forum if you have not noticed yet Gamble translated means known gambling comes from the English.
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nothing more. A cheap scam that hopefully everyone will see through. Just like your pathetic profit picture of the
14x Bet. Wanted to make fun of yourself with the picture?
The only win I see is Daniels.
The 30,000€ is still in the forum.
And I want proof. You know how it is, you can tell a lot.
Do you also have proof of the 30,000€ from Wunderino, or did you open an account again?
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Why do you keep attacking people here personally who don't share your opinion? How do you know if Laboy has no character and why should Laboy want to persuade people to gamble. Why would he advertise here? Do you think that the casinos here all work together and send some people here to the forum to advertise for the whole industry? The industry is too stupid for that and there are too many vested interests involved. If Laboy was from an online casino or an Affiliate, he would have advertised his casino or website somewhere long ago
I have talked to so many casino managers and really 90% of them have nothing in their heads. They would not even be mentally capable of such a conspiracy. Most of them are not able to plan and think long term. After my depression I had to work a few months in a workshop for handicapped people (for rehabilitation) to get a further education financed. 90% of the disabled there had more brains than most casino managers. Many of the "handicapped" there were not handicapped at all in the sense, but were highly qualified people who had just had a burnout and were no longer able to work. But even the really handicapped with Down syndrome would rather be able to raise such conspiracies - without it being uncovered. You overestimate it all completely.
To the streamers:
Personally, I am also convinced that a large part of the streamers are faking in one way or another. Especially I don't believe the story behind most streamers. Some people come out of nowhere and play every day without a break with stakes that only millionaires can afford. And as a millionaire, you don't need to have your gambling financed by advertising and show your face everywhere - it's not entirely harmless when you're rich. I just wonder who these people are?
I can't believe any stories about poor students who sell all their belongings, somehow scrape together 15,000€ and then Risk the entire sum in one go at Roulette and win.
Or how should it be possible, for example, to play 9 hours a day on stakes from 2€? If you play 9 hours a day on at least 2€ / spin, then ALWAYS the payout ratio / the mathematics takes effect and you can calculate the losses theoretically almost cent exactly. A Streamer who plays 9 hours a day on 2€ makes about 10.000 spins per day, 300.000 spins per month or about 3.500.000 spins per year. Sure, there are sometimes the 5 explorers or even several times but the losses per spin would still be 10 cents per spin at an AQ of 95% (in the long run). With 3.5 million spins per year, that would be a sure loss of 350,000€ per year. And with so many spins the 350.000€ loss is for sure! With so many spins, luck no longer plays a role. At 3.6 million spins per year, everyone loses the same amount - perhaps with minimal fluctuations.
Of course, with so many spins there are also phases where it just runs. There can also be 2x 5 explorers in a row - with so many spins, anything is possible. Nevertheless, the final result is a big minus in any case.
How do the streamers do it?
1. The streamers are directly employed by the casinos and play with the casinos' money. You can tell when a streamer plays in only one casino for years.
2. The streamers are affiliates and get for each Deposit an insane bonus of, for example, 500% or more or they get streaming capital in the form of a bonus. Online Casinos Tube got caught in the process, with OCT certainly playing with real money most of the time. The few times they played with streaming money, they acted stupidly and got caught.
3. Risk casino had at that time also Book of Ra 6 on 5€ bet 6 explorers get. That was not during a stream, but a normal Youtube video. It was noticeable that the spin number was smaller than if you had played normally. Where does this come from? RiskCasino started working with OVO Casino at that time. The win was real but the win was not made by RiskCasino, but by another player at a much earlier time (which is why the spin number was much smaller). OVO Casino simply looked in his list and picked out a big win and simply by means of replay mode (in the Greentube / Novomatic games this works) this win again (without the writing replay mode) played, recorded and sent to RiskCasino. He then commented on it afterwards and the whole thing was done. Unfortunately I can't find the video anywhere anymore. Perhaps it was deleted because too many had noticed this - it shows again how intelligent or stupid some casino / affiliate managers are.
Mostly it runs but as mentioned in point 1 or 2. The players play under real conditions but with insane Bonuses or streaming money. I personally don't watch streams because it's too boring for me to watch other people gamble. I do watch winning videos when I've lost a lot on a slot to see what could theoretically happen. But I never watch whole streams. So I can't judge if people have long losing streaks or not.
How do the casinos do it?
The whole thing is not free for the casinos either. Assuming an online casino transfers 5.000€ to a streamer and the streamer plays with it, the casino still has to pay the license fees to the game manufacturers, which is estimated between 5% - 10% of the lost stake or a smaller part of the turnover, depending on the game manufacturer. So 5.000€ costs a casino between 250€ and 500€. If 3 new customers can be found viA***5,000€ stream, then it has paid off for the casino in the long run. Actually, one to two new customers would be enough on average, but the streamer also earns money from it.
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Thanks Daniel, the user is unfortunately just annoying.
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here. Not only his cheap advertising is annoying, he suggests people play and you will win big
and you will win big.
to that he attacks people here perrnament!
I'm not the only one who sees this.
If you read it, and think it's good too, or don't recognize anything,
then perhaps you've lost sight of the subtleties over the years.
He makes it similar to bone subtly, and not as obviously as I do, that's true.
but that seems to notice only a few here.
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Again for you:
The casino always has the advantage, yet thanks to fair RTP everyone can win if they are lucky.
Long term the casino wins.
Have you understood now or do I have to post it again?
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