Online Casinos in general: STARGAMES scam AGBS!!! (Page 6)

XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 18.06.2024 at 18:06: It's just totally pointless to play in a German online casino...simply a money pit. It has nothing to do with player protection...in a malta booth I lose far less and get more entertainment and offers for my money.

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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 18.06.2024 at 16:38: Of course I can say that here.
I got € 100 real money credited and 50 free spins at Faust at € 1 each
I actually wanted to pay out the €100 directly, but of course I couldn't because I had to wager 1x. No shit, I only played on 20 cents and various games and nothing came up at all. I was just able to pay out 50 when I had wagered the 100 once.
The 50 free spins on €1 also only paid me €17...no free spins nothing..money gone again.
So in the end I was left with the 50€...Unfortunately very meager when I look at it that way, but well, StarGames was fair here.
I still don't think I'll play here again. There is simply nothing to win, the games are so bad and such a win as with the Bonus money 4 heads in the free spins on 50 cents, which unfortunately never comes with real money.

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mtorero wrote on 18.06.2024 at 19:20:

I've explained it here many times before. Please don't be fooled by the Rtp information.


87-90% doesn't sound bad at first glance, but in reality it's a disaster and almost 4 times less playing time than on a Slot machine in a normal casino. You have no chance of experiencing even a little gaming fun.

The people responsible for offering it would never play themselves and don't even know how frustrating such sessions with constant dead spins are.
They just know that there are enough naive people who lose their belongings every day in offline casinos and rightly assume that the same target group can be ripped off online.

Anyone who gambles away a tenner or two every now and then in a casino to pass the time is ok.
but depositing ~1000Eur a month in a casino is really negligent, I would make the effort to go to a casino or play abroad. With so much money, it wouldn't be too much to ask to have some fun and win something, would it?
As you have seen for yourself, this is of course not possible in a German casino...

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frapi07 wrote on 18.06.2024 at 20:23:
88% compared to 96-97% is awesome. Legacy Of Dead, for example, has almost 97% RTP and at a "legal" Provider 84.5% (don't name a provider here because it's a StarGames thread). 12% less - how can you justify that? It can't just be the 5.3% tax. Anyone who deposits their money and plays at such RTPs must be naive or have too much money.

Not everyone has the opportunity to travel abroad. I could do it with a little effort (I could go to the Czech Republic), but it's too expensive for me.

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frapi07 wrote on 18.06.2024 at 20:23:
88% compared to 96-97% is awesome. Legacy Of Dead, for example, has almost 97% RTP and at a "legal" Provider 84.5% (don't name a provider here because it's a StarGames thread). 12% less - how can you justify that? It can't just be the 5.3% tax. Anyone who deposits their money and plays at such RTPs must be naive or have too much money.

Not everyone has the opportunity to travel abroad. I could do it with a little effort (I could go to the Czech Republic), but it's too expensive for me.

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gamble1 wrote on 18.06.2024 at 20:40:

But you must not forget many do not even know what RTP means! The gambling addict mostly going by statistics with a migration background poorly integrated just understands the most necessary to be able to get by in DE but does not itch for any rules functions or RTP values


I don't mean that in a derogatory way or anything, but even if you were to write there that you get nothing for your money 99.9999% of the time it would simply be gone, even then the target group would play on the one hand because the addiction kicks on the other because they don't understand the bean of what it says and on the other hand because they simply have nothing else in their lives but the 0.10 € Book of Ra gambling all day long

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gamble1 wrote on 18.06.2024 at 20:40:

But you must not forget many do not even know what RTP means! The gambling addict mostly going by statistics with a migration background poorly integrated just understands the most necessary to be able to get by in DE but does not itch for any rules functions or RTP values


I don't mean that in a derogatory way or anything, but even if you were to write there that you get nothing for your money 99.9999% of the time it's simply gone, even then the target group would play firstly because the addiction kicks in, secondly because they don't understand the bean of what it says and thirdly because they simply have nothing else in their lives but the €0.10 Book of Ra gambling all day long

RebellYell wrote on 18.06.2024 at 20:49:
It would have been very good to set a minimum RTP for German casinos in the gambling treaty. The MGA had something like this for many years, that a certain RTP (I can't remember it exactly) must not be undercut in the casinos. Unfortunately, this was neglected and now there are really cheeky providers with such dirty RTPs. Nevertheless, I find anything below 90 percent cheeky! You can't justify that with 5.3% tax.

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frapi07 wrote on 18.06.2024 at 21:01:

Yeah, a minimum RTP is really a good idea. Yeah, didn't know Legacy was that low. Not that I would Deposit there. Personally, I hate the rules and whenever I claime and play something like no deposit there, after 5 minutes I'm not in the mood anymore. At StarGames last week I initially wanted to wager my bonus balance to 50 cents, but I thought to myself ah f** it, by the time I wager the 72€ I'll be 90 years old, so I set it to 1€ and finished in 72 spins.

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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 16.06.2024 at 17:22: Hi guys,
I'm in a really bad mood right now!
Where do I start...
I play at StarGames every month. I reach the 1000€ depositor every month and lose it almost every month.
I deposited and played again yesterday and today and got absolutely nothing. Like every time. Then today, because it's Sunday, there were 30 free spins of 50 cents each for 30€ turnover in book of ra. And I quickly got free spins. Which seemed strange to me, because with real money you never get anything and with free spins that are Bonus money you get something straight away. Anyway, I got the symbol head and I already suspected that I would get 4 or 5 heads. I got 4 heads and won over €500.
I thought that was totally cheeky. Because it's often been the case that I only win something with bonus money and then I've only managed the turnover to pay out.

But now comes the biggest blow and what for me is the absolute scam of the whole thing: I started playing and still wanted to try to make the €10,000 turnover somehow in order to possibly pay out the maximum possible €300. Then I see the turnover display remains at 0 the whole time.
I go into the chat...
And I thought I was in for a shock! Alex tells me I can only wager the €10,000 with real money...what?!!! I'm supposed to Deposit again and make 10k turnover to be able to withdraw max 300€ of the 500? With the poor RTP I'll easily lose 3000 to 4000€!
That means the 4 heads in the free spins were completely for nothing and the RTP is artificially pushed in this place by giving people with a system behind it nice winnings in bonus money, where you know they can't pay out anything of it anyway and have to use real money for the car.
Honestly... you can't beat the audacity of that and it's clearly fraud! I've already left tens of thousands in this shitty place and they're pulling this shit. That's no way to deal with customers who bring in so much money.

I'm really angry about this scam right now!

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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 18.06.2024 at 21:22: I will only play at Winz. I've had the best experiences there and you can win a few thousand every now and then. And even if you only Deposit €50, you often do.

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frapi07 wrote on 18.06.2024 at 20:23:
88% compared to 96-97% is awesome. Legacy Of Dead, for example, has almost 97% RTP and at a "legal" Provider 84.5% (don't name a provider here because it's a StarGames thread). 12% less - how can you justify that? It can't just be the 5.3% tax. Anyone who deposits their money and plays at such RTPs must be naive or have too much money.

Not everyone has the opportunity to travel abroad. I could do it with a little effort (I could go to the Czech Republic), but it's too expensive for me.

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