It's just totally pointless to play in a German online casino...simply a money pit. It has nothing to do with player protection...I lose far less in a malta shop and get more entertainment and offers for my money.
XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 18.06.2024 at 18:06: It's just totally pointless to play in a German online casino...simply a money pit. It has nothing to do with player protection...in a malta booth I lose far less and get more entertainment and offers for my money.
I've explained it here before. Please don't be fooled by the Rtp data.
87-90% doesn't sound bad at first glance, but in reality it's a disaster and almost 4 times less playing time than on a Slot machine in a normal casino. You have no chance of experiencing even a little gaming fun.
The people responsible for offering it would never play themselves and don't even know how frustrating such sessions with constant dead spins are.
They just know that there are enough naive people who lose their belongings every day in offline casinos and rightly assume that the same target group can be ripped off online.
Anyone who gambles away a tenner or two every now and then in a casino to pass the time is ok.
but depositing ~1000Eur a month in a casino is really negligent, I would make the effort to go to a casino or play abroad. With so much money, it wouldn't be too much to ask to have some fun and win something, would it?
As you have seen for yourself, this is of course not possible in a German casino...
I've explained it here many times before. Please don't be fooled by the Rtp information.
87-90% doesn't sound bad at first glance, but in reality it's a disaster and almost 4 times less playing time than on a Slot machine in a normal casino. You have no chance of experiencing even a little gaming fun.
The people responsible for offering it would never play themselves and don't even know how frustrating such sessions with constant dead spins are.
They just know that there are enough naive people who lose their belongings every day in offline casinos and rightly assume that the same target group can be ripped off online.
Anyone who gambles away a tenner or two every now and then in a casino to pass the time is ok.
but depositing ~1000Eur a month in a casino is really negligent, I would make the effort to go to a casino or play abroad. With so much money, it wouldn't be too much to ask to have some fun and win something, would it?
As you have convinced yourself, this is of course not possible in a German casino...
XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 18.06.2024 at 16:38: Of course I can say that here.
I got € 100 real money credited and 50 free spins at Faust at € 1 each
I actually wanted to pay out the €100 directly, but of course I couldn't because I had to wager 1x. No shit, I only played on 20 cents and various games and nothing came up at all. I was just able to pay out 50 when I had wagered the 100 once.
The 50 free spins on €1 also only paid me €17...no free spins nothing..money gone again.
So in the end I was left with the 50€...Unfortunately very meager when I look at it that way, but well, StarGames was fair here.
I still don't think I'll play here again. There is simply nothing to win, the games are so bad and such a win as with the Bonus money 4 heads in the free spins on 50 cents, which unfortunately never comes with real money.
And that's exactly the bad thing... it happens so often lately that big hits only come with no Deposit free spins or Bonuses with a payout limit. And quite often. A rogue who suspects intent behind this. This is also a good way to boost the RTP... Is a lucrative business for the game providers...
I've explained it here many times before. Please don't be fooled by the Rtp information.
87-90% doesn't sound bad at first glance, but in reality it's a disaster and almost 4 times less playing time than on a Slot machine in a normal casino. You have no chance of experiencing even a little gaming fun.
The people responsible for offering it would never play themselves and don't even know how frustrating such sessions with constant dead spins are.
They just know that there are enough naive people who lose their belongings every day in offline casinos and rightly assume that the same target group can be ripped off online.
Anyone who gambles away a tenner or two every now and then in a casino to pass the time is ok.
but depositing ~1000Eur a month in a casino is really negligent, I would make the effort to go to a casino or play abroad. With so much money, it wouldn't be too much to ask to have some fun and win something, would it?
As you have seen for yourself, this is of course not possible in a German casino...
88% compared to 96-97% is awesome. Legacy Of Dead, for example, has almost 97% RTP and at a "legal" Provider 84.5% (don't name a provider here because it's a StarGames thread). 12% less - how can you justify that? It can't just be the 5.3% tax. Anyone who deposits their money and plays at such RTPs must be naive or have too much money.
Not everyone has the opportunity to travel abroad. I could do it with a little effort (I could go to the Czech Republic), but it's too expensive for me.
frapi07 wrote on 18.06.2024 at 20:23:
88% compared to 96-97% is awesome. Legacy Of Dead, for example, has almost 97% RTP and at a "legal" Provider 84.5% (don't name a provider here because it's a StarGames thread). 12% less - how can you justify that? It can't just be the 5.3% tax. Anyone who deposits their money and plays at such RTPs must be naive or have too much money.
Not everyone has the opportunity to travel abroad. I could do it with a little effort (I could go to the Czech Republic), but it's too expensive for me.
But you mustn't forget that many people don't even know what RTP means! The gambling addict with a poorly integrated migration background usually goes by the statistics and just understands the bare minimum to get by in Germany, but doesn't care about any rules, functions or RTP values
I don't mean that in a derogatory way or anything, but even if you were to write there that you get nothing for your money, 99.9999% of it is simply gone, even then the target group would play on the one hand because the addiction kicks in, on the other hand because they don't understand the bean of what it says and again because they simply have nothing else in their lives but the 0.10 € Book of Ra gambling all day long
frapi07 wrote on 18.06.2024 at 20:23:
88% compared to 96-97% is awesome. Legacy Of Dead, for example, has almost 97% RTP and at a "legal" Provider 84.5% (don't name a provider here because it's a StarGames thread). 12% less - how can you justify that? It can't just be the 5.3% tax. Anyone who deposits their money and plays at such RTPs must be naive or have too much money.
Not everyone has the opportunity to travel abroad. I could do it with a little effort (I could go to the Czech Republic), but it's too expensive for me.
It would have been very good to set a minimum RTP for German casinos in the gambling agreement. The MGA had something like this for many years, that a certain RTP (I can't remember it exactly) must not be undercut in the casinos. Unfortunately, this was neglected and now there are really cheeky providers with such dirty RTPs. Nevertheless, I find anything below 90 percent cheeky! You can't justify that with 5.3% tax.
But you must not forget many do not even know what RTP means! The gambling addict mostly going by statistics with a migration background poorly integrated just understands the most necessary to be able to get by in DE but does not itch for any rules functions or RTP values
I don't mean that in a derogatory way or anything, but even if you were to write there that you get nothing for your money 99.9999% of the time it would simply be gone, even then the target group would play on the one hand because the addiction kicks on the other because they don't understand the bean of what it says and on the other hand because they simply have nothing else in their lives but the 0.10 € Book of Ra gambling all day long
How many people from this forum are constantly sinking their money into German Online Casinos? A lot of them. Then they rant about how crap everything is there and the next day, the sinking (and ranting) continues. They can all speak German perfectly and they're integrated too
But you must not forget many do not even know what RTP means! The gambling addict mostly going by statistics with a migration background poorly integrated just understands the most necessary to be able to get by in DE but does not itch for any rules functions or RTP values
I don't mean that in a derogatory way or anything, but even if you were to write there that you get nothing for your money 99.9999% of the time it's simply gone, even then the target group would play firstly because the addiction kicks in, secondly because they don't understand the bean of what it says and thirdly because they simply have nothing else in their lives but the €0.10 Book of Ra gambling all day long
I know which ones you mean. People who think they can influence the machine (card/ladder). But it has little to do with the migration background. They are simply people who don't bother with the issue. That's exactly the kind of people the lobby wants
RebellYell wrote on 18.06.2024 at 20:49:
It would have been very good to set a minimum RTP for German casinos in the gambling treaty. The MGA had something like this for many years, that a certain RTP (I can't remember it exactly) must not be undercut in the casinos. Unfortunately, this was neglected and now there are really cheeky providers with such dirty RTPs. Nevertheless, I find anything below 90 percent cheeky! You can't justify that with 5.3% tax.
Yeah, a minimum RTP is a really good idea. Yeah, didn't know Legacy was that low. Not that I would Deposit there. Personally, I hate the rules and whenever I claime and play something like no deposit there, I'm fed up after 5 minutes. At StarGames last week I initially wanted to wager my bonus balance to 50 cents, but I thought to myself ah f** it, by the time I wager the 72€ I'll be 90 years old, so I set it to 1€ and finished in 72 spins.
Yeah, a minimum RTP is really a good idea. Yeah, didn't know Legacy was that low. Not that I would Deposit there. Personally, I hate the rules and whenever I claime and play something like no deposit there, after 5 minutes I'm not in the mood anymore. At StarGames last week I initially wanted to wager my bonus balance to 50 cents, but I thought to myself ah f** it, by the time I wager the 72€ I'll be 90 years old, so I set it to 1€ and finished in 72 spins.
I only mentioned the migration background because it's always listed at the top of the statistics for the typical arcade person
XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 16.06.2024 at 17:22: Hi guys,
I'm in a really bad mood right now!
Where do I start...
I play at StarGames every month. I reach the 1000€ depositor every month and lose it almost every month.
I deposited and played again yesterday and today and got absolutely nothing. Like every time. Then today, because it's Sunday, there were 30 free spins of 50 cents each for 30€ turnover in book of ra. And I quickly got free spins. Which seemed strange to me, because with real money you never get anything and with free spins that are Bonus money you get something straight away. Anyway, I got the symbol head and I already suspected that I would get 4 or 5 heads. I got 4 heads and won over €500.
I thought that was totally cheeky. Because it's often been the case that I only win something with bonus money and then I've only managed the turnover to pay out.
But now comes the biggest blow and what for me is the absolute scam of the whole thing: I started playing and still wanted to try to make the €10,000 turnover somehow in order to possibly pay out the maximum possible €300. Then I see the turnover display remains at 0 the whole time.
I go into the chat...
And I thought I was in for a shock! Alex tells me I can only wager the €10,000 with real money...what?!!! I'm supposed to Deposit again and make 10k turnover to be able to withdraw max 300€ of the 500? With the poor RTP I'll easily lose 3000 to 4000€!
That means the 4 heads in the free spins were completely for nothing and the RTP is artificially pushed in this place by giving people with a system behind it nice winnings in bonus money, where you know they can't pay out anything of it anyway and have to use real money for the car.
Honestly... you can't beat the audacity of that and it's clearly fraud! I've already left tens of thousands in this shitty place and they're pulling this shit. That's no way to deal with customers who bring in so much money.
I'm really angry about this scam right now!
The support from them once said that the free spins are played on a separate server, so it has no influence on the rtp.
Still, it's a joke what StarGames has been pulling for years
I remember this from before and it triggered me to deposit so that I could still get the bonus
I also got a bit angry from time to time
Can understand you there well
No matter if German casinos or the rest are all the same
The only winners are those who work for the casinos, the rest of us are the losers
But if the desire to gamble has to be satisfied, I only do it via crypto, which I would recommend to you
I will only play at Winz. I've had the best experiences there and you win a few thousand every now and then. And even if you only Deposit €50, it's often enough.
XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 18.06.2024 at 21:22: I will only play at Winz. I've had the best experiences there and you can win a few thousand every now and then. And even if you only Deposit €50, you often do.
Jo StarGames is garbage should go to the corner and be ashamed that they scam so many people
frapi07 wrote on 18.06.2024 at 20:23:
88% compared to 96-97% is awesome. Legacy Of Dead, for example, has almost 97% RTP and at a "legal" Provider 84.5% (don't name a provider here because it's a StarGames thread). 12% less - how can you justify that? It can't just be the 5.3% tax. Anyone who deposits their money and plays at such RTPs must be naive or have too much money.
Not everyone has the opportunity to travel abroad. I could do it with a little effort (I could go to the Czech Republic), but it's too expensive for me.
The Czech Republic is a bad example. The Novomatic lobbyists went on a rampage there a long time ago and contaminated the casinos. There is now only this provider with lousy payout ratios. (As in most of Eastern Europe, by the way)
German casinos are much better in terms of offer and Rtp.
From southern Germany, I would recommend Venice Ca Noghera (slot selection is almost as good as an American casino) and Casino Perla in Slovenia. Bregenz and the rest of Casinos Austria are also ok ✌️
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I've explained it here before. Please don't be fooled by the Rtp data.
87-90% doesn't sound bad at first glance, but in reality it's a disaster and almost 4 times less playing time than on a Slot machine in a normal casino. You have no chance of experiencing even a little gaming fun.
The people responsible for offering it would never play themselves and don't even know how frustrating such sessions with constant dead spins are.
They just know that there are enough naive people who lose their belongings every day in offline casinos and rightly assume that the same target group can be ripped off online.
Anyone who gambles away a tenner or two every now and then in a casino to pass the time is ok.
but depositing ~1000Eur a month in a casino is really negligent, I would make the effort to go to a casino or play abroad. With so much money, it wouldn't be too much to ask to have some fun and win something, would it?
As you have seen for yourself, this is of course not possible in a German casino...
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And that's exactly the bad thing... it happens so often lately that big hits only come with no Deposit free spins or Bonuses with a payout limit. And quite often. A rogue who suspects intent behind this. This is also a good way to boost the RTP... Is a lucrative business for the game providers...
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88% compared to 96-97% is awesome. Legacy Of Dead, for example, has almost 97% RTP and at a "legal" Provider 84.5% (don't name a provider here because it's a StarGames thread). 12% less - how can you justify that? It can't just be the 5.3% tax. Anyone who deposits their money and plays at such RTPs must be naive or have too much money.
Not everyone has the opportunity to travel abroad. I could do it with a little effort (I could go to the Czech Republic), but it's too expensive for me.
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But you mustn't forget that many people don't even know what RTP means! The gambling addict with a poorly integrated migration background usually goes by the statistics and just understands the bare minimum to get by in Germany, but doesn't care about any rules, functions or RTP values
I don't mean that in a derogatory way or anything, but even if you were to write there that you get nothing for your money, 99.9999% of it is simply gone, even then the target group would play on the one hand because the addiction kicks in, on the other hand because they don't understand the bean of what it says and again because they simply have nothing else in their lives but the 0.10 € Book of Ra gambling all day long
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It would have been very good to set a minimum RTP for German casinos in the gambling agreement. The MGA had something like this for many years, that a certain RTP (I can't remember it exactly) must not be undercut in the casinos. Unfortunately, this was neglected and now there are really cheeky providers with such dirty RTPs. Nevertheless, I find anything below 90 percent cheeky! You can't justify that with 5.3% tax.
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How many people from this forum are constantly sinking their money into German Online Casinos? A lot of them. Then they rant about how crap everything is there and the next day, the sinking (and ranting) continues. They can all speak German perfectly and they're integrated too
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I know which ones you mean. People who think they can influence the machine (card/ladder). But it has little to do with the migration background. They are simply people who don't bother with the issue. That's exactly the kind of people the lobby wants
Yeah, a minimum RTP is a really good idea. Yeah, didn't know Legacy was that low. Not that I would Deposit there. Personally, I hate the rules and whenever I claime and play something like no deposit there, I'm fed up after 5 minutes. At StarGames last week I initially wanted to wager my bonus balance to 50 cents, but I thought to myself ah f** it, by the time I wager the 72€ I'll be 90 years old, so I set it to 1€ and finished in 72 spins.
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I only mentioned the migration background because it's always listed at the top of the statistics for the typical arcade person
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The support from them once said that the free spins are played on a separate server, so it has no influence on the rtp.
Still, it's a joke what StarGames has been pulling for years
I remember this from before and it triggered me to deposit so that I could still get the bonus
I also got a bit angry from time to time
Can understand you there well
No matter if German casinos or the rest are all the same
The only winners are those who work for the casinos, the rest of us are the losers
But if the desire to gamble has to be satisfied, I only do it via crypto, which I would recommend to you
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Jo StarGames is garbage should go to the corner and be ashamed that they scam so many people
Pile of shit
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The Czech Republic is a bad example. The Novomatic lobbyists went on a rampage there a long time ago and contaminated the casinos. There is now only this provider with lousy payout ratios. (As in most of Eastern Europe, by the way)
German casinos are much better in terms of offer and Rtp.
From southern Germany, I would recommend Venice Ca Noghera (slot selection is almost as good as an American casino) and Casino Perla in Slovenia. Bregenz and the rest of Casinos Austria are also ok ✌️
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