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Online Casinos in general: STARGAMES scam AGBS!!! (Page 12)

Topic created on 16th Jun. 2024 | Page: 12 of 12 | Answers: 172 | Views: 7,880
StarGames_Official
Experienced

Falke wrote on 23.06.2024 at 01:17:

What would interest me and maybe the casino here can answer me: Why do they take such poor RTP values? I know that the Deposit limit is a big hurdle, but if halfway normal RTP values were used, word would get around relatively quickly among players and you could become the market leader. Even players who have no idea about RTP values would immediately notice the difference and then also remain as customers.

Or what exactly are the reasons for this? Was there an agreement among the casinos to use the poor RTP values? After all, there is competition and I can't quite understand why no casino has yet come up with the idea of jumping on this bandwagon. You could then use slogans such as "We offer the best odds", "Only with us - Book of Dead with 96% RTP" etc.

We have already answered these questions in the forum in this post. In this post we have also already explained that the 95% RTP games with "tax per spin" are identical to the 90% RTP games we offer.


Therefore: the highest maximum RTP for the current German market is 90% with the current stake tax. No Provider can offer anything higher, otherwise they wouldn't make any money. This is where you start.

Why some game providers are even lower: it may be that these game providers charge a higher fee for their games, or do not give any discounts to the providers. Therefore, even with 90% RTP, they would not be profitable for the providers.

We will continue to offer the Novoline classics at 90% RTP. This will remain the case on StarGames as long as there are no regulatory changes in the market. Thank you for your understanding.

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gamble1
Legend

StarGames_Official wrote on 24.06.2024 at 14:48:

We have already answered these questions in the forum in this post. In this post we have also already explained that the 95% RTP games with "tax per spin" are identical to the 90% RTP games we offer.


Therefore: the highest maximum RTP for the current German market is 90% with the current stake tax. No Provider can offer anything higher, otherwise they wouldn't make any money. This is where you start.

Why some game providers are even lower: it may be that these game providers charge a higher fee for their games, or do not give any discounts to the providers. This means that even with a 90% RTP, they would not be profitable for the providers.

We will continue to offer the Novoline classics at 90% RTP. This will remain the case on StarGames as long as there are no regulatory changes in the market. Thank you for your understanding.

Just out of curiosity, if the outrageous taxation were to change, would you increase the RTP for customers? BZW. have you ever tried to fight this outrageous tax with other providers? I mean, you experience every day what customers throw at you for something the state demands of you

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Daniel1988
Top Member

Langhans wrote on 23.06.2024 at 11:12 am:
but of course Gambling is not only insanely fun, but can also make you really crazy

Yes, these are the after-effects of many years of 5 sec. spins and less and less fun 😭

Fortunately, my GP and psychiatrist haven't diagnosed me as "untreatable"!
I'm already on the road to recovery and my nerves are getting better and better 😉

What really bothers me are these insidious actions and you can read a lot of lies out of them.
The greed for more is carried out on our backs and although we have left thousands of euros, we are also taken for fools and treated unkindly by internal employees.
You have to see the relationship between.... the total money paid in over the years, the service, the lack of transparency and the lack of fairness.

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Daniel1988
Top Member

gamble1 wrote on 24.06.2024 at 16:58:

Just out of curiosity would something change about the outrageous taxation would you set the RTP higher for customers? BZW. have you ever tried to fight this outrageous tax with other providers? I mean, you experience every day what customers throw at you for something the state demands of you

Apparently the bar is being raised every year.

I would also be interested to know what is in a license agreement and StarGames may have to deliver under a certain pressure.
Maybe that's why the bonus conditions are so difficult and why there are fewer payouts?

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StarGames_Official
Experienced

gamble1 wrote on 24.06.2024 at 16:58:

Just out of curiosity would something change about the outrageous taxation would you set the RTP higher for customers? BZW. have you ever tried to fight this outrageous tax with other providers? I mean, you experience every day what customers throw at you for something the state demands of you

Yes, we have already written more about this at in this thread.

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Langhans
Expert

Daniel1988 wrote on June 24th, 2024 at 5:47 pm:


Family doctor and psychiatrist have fortunately not diagnosed "untreatable"!

Well hopefully they are right. Afterwards they'll be gambling themselves and bumming around in the pirate school between practice appointments

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Falke
Expert

StarGames_Official wrote on 24.06.2024 at 14:48:

We have already answered these questions in the forum in this post. In this post we have also already explained that the 95% RTP games with "tax per spin" are identical to the 90% RTP games we offer.


Therefore: the highest maximum RTP for the current German market is 90% with the current stake tax. No Provider can offer anything higher, otherwise they would not make any money. This is where you start.

Why some game providers are even lower: it may be that these game providers charge a higher fee for their games, or do not give any discounts to the providers. This means that even with a 90% RTP, they would not be profitable for the providers.

We will continue to offer the Novoline classics at 90% RTP. This will remain the case on StarGames as long as there are no regulatory changes in the market. Thank you for your understanding.

Thank you for your reply. I think it's really good that you're answering honestly here and not trying to beat around the bush.


Yes, the German rules are a disaster. And all the state can think of to tackle illegal gambling is to prosecute the players and block the banks' accounts. Instead of first creating competitive rules and then prosecuting illegal casinos and their owners.

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mannymansch
Rookie
But isn't that the case with pretty much all licensed stalls? They are all cheats or are made so by the legislation. In my opinion, the GGL and its regulations are only there to take as much money as possible from the players, to decimate possible wins to the extreme and to line the pockets of the federal and state governments. But this has nothing to do with player protection.

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