Online Casinos in general: StarGames experience (Page 97)

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StarGames_Official wrote on 27.11.2023 at 13:23:
A casino with 95% RTP + tax on bet is mathematically identical to a 90% RTP casino.

If you Deposit 50 euros in both casinos and start spinning with 20 cents, your fun will last exactly as long in one casino as in the other.

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Pat1991 wrote on 27.11.2023 at 13:51: Another option would be to set the RTP including tax to 94% or so. The question is @StarGames_Official whether the remaining profit margin of 0.7% house edge is still worth it for you

• Costs to payment providers;


• Costs for the game providers;


• Platform costs (servers and co.);


• Costs for various service providers (verification systems, CRM systems, etc.)


• License fee (is paid for the GGL, is also charged based on the bet);


• Salaries.

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Stromberg wrote on 27.11.2023 at 15:50:
Mathematically yes....

Practically, however, after some time of regulation, the feeling spreads that high profit factors (from 750x I say now) are almost impossible to get or let's say disproportionately more difficult than with the normal versions with 95% that used to be common...
And these are just the hits you need from time to time to get a worthwhile payout.

So it should be an option for you to run the model with tax per spin, you would have won me as a customer (I already am occasionally, but in my eyes that would be a significant difference to other game libraries)

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StarGames_Official wrote on 27.11.2023 at 16:21:
The same question could have been asked about casinos before the treaty: why was the RTP 95% and not 99%? Back then 1% house edge would have been enough, wouldn't it?

In a world where you only had the tax but no other costs, maybe. Here is a list of costs that need to be considered:

• Costs to payment providers;


• Costs for the game providers;


• Platform costs (servers and co.);


• Costs for various service providers (verification systems, CRM systems, etc.)


• License fee (is paid for the GGL, is also charged based on the bet);


• Salaries.

Once these have been paid, we still haven't done any marketing and spent any Bonuses / free spins. Please deduct these as well.

What remains is the win / house edge. We can confirm that the above (excluding marketing and bonus costs) could certainly NOT be paid from the 0.7%. All these are included in this 5% and explain why the RTP is 90% and not 94%.

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StarGames_Official wrote on 27.11.2023 at 16:26:
Technically anything is possible. You see it that way. Many people see it differently. Exactly a few months ago there was a survey on GambleJoe, which we also followed closely. You can find the results here: https://www.gamblejoe.com/umfragen/108/

54% are in favor of tax per spin. 46% stand for 90% RTP games.

Yes, majority for tax per spin, but this result is not clear.

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Stromberg wrote on 27.11.2023 at 18:19:

Sure, it's just my opinion, that's true.

I don't know if you play yourself, but the game versions with the low rtp are simply not the same gaming experience as the "originals".
Apart from the fact that you never have the feeling that you can land a really good hit, they (inevitably) behave completely differently. You enter the free games and are naturally happy about it, but don't expect a big hit to come your way. If it goes very well x250, everything else is or would be like a wildline earlier at doa😉, to put it a little exaggeratedly...
That's why I would always speak out in favor of the old familiar versions with high rtp and tax for them...
However, almost every casino handles the rtp and the providers seem to have created special versions for DE, so I think it's actually the most lucrative way for the casinos.
In my opinion, the fact that the offer is used at all by players who are not completely new to gambling and don't know any other way is largely due to the fact that it is not so easy to simply stop gambling.
Btw. I see the blame for this on the legislation and not on you and I think it's great that you always answer questions here.
Nobody else does and you always get it off🙈

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Pat1991 wrote on 27.11.2023 at 17:26: Then the only question that remains for me is who came up with the retarded idea of taxing slots per spin. Does this have anything to do with the location of the gambling industry abroad?

Every "normal" company is taxed on win, not on turnover.

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gamble1 wrote on 27.11.2023 at 22:51:

Probably the same experts where also find 5 second breaks between spins "addiction reducing"


So when I'm playing Play'n Go slots in a DE casino and this stupid circle makes the next spin clear again, I question my entire existence in these magical 5 seconds, but mainly I always ask myself why I've done this shit again and feel like depositing somewhere else, so I have to say it works really well

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