Butterbrezel wrote on March 10th, 2024 at 8:24 pm:
Hating someone for expressing a factual opinion would be a bit too extreme
Every depositor of a player is then eig also a goodwill. There are enough other providers.
Convert that into real gifts. You get a package and expect to receive a few care products, shower gel, deodorant, etc.. But now you unpack a PS5. That's cool.
Now your buddy who gave you the present arrives and says "Sorry, here's your real present, shower gel and deodorant. I'd rather keep the PS5 myself because I don't want to spend that much.
Will you say thank you for the goodwill, the shower gel and the deodorant?
No, of course I'm annoyed and grudgingly say thank you 😄 Maybe I'm too uptight about it...
For me, depositing money in a casino is not necessarily goodwill but a way to pursue my hobby and relax with a bit of excitement in the meantime.
But of course I only Deposit where I like it and where I am satisfied with the offer.
Yes, but it's really annoying, I understand... I wouldn't feel any differently
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eloquente wrote on 10.03.2024 at 20:16:
That it is unfavorable if you can win a maximum of 15 euros with one euro spin can be good. But nevertheless, these are the StarGames standards and everyone who plays here knows that. 15 Euro Wager Free is better than nothing... What is the alternative? 50 spins of 10 cents each with a x35 Wager at the end, which 99% of the time you won't get in German casinos anyway thanks to the outstanding Rtp?
Of course it's annoying, especially if you're so lucky with these spins... Nevertheless, at the end of the day it's goodwill for which there is no obligation on the part of StarGames.
I don't understand why SG should now surprise him with a certain amount of money just because you are causing stress here in the forum. Then please for all those who had this bad luck. Can't be the point of causing a bit of terror here and then getting extra treatment. I can still remember the fuss he made here because the MittwochsRad had a bug and even then he got a corresponding credit from Fs due to the good will of StarGames.
I don't want to attack him for that, but I just don't see the point in softening the guidelines for one person every time just because you're being confrontational here.
And now you can all hate me, but I'll stick to the fact that it's goodwill.
I agree with you. If that's rewarded, I'll be terrorized every time I get over the 15€ rule from now on It's easy money then
I agree with you. If this is rewarded, I will also make terror from now on every time I come over the 15€ regulation is then easy money
That's not my point that it's a stupid rule is out of the question... Let them at least set the limit to 100 for the bday spins, SG wouldn't gnaw on the starvation towel if there's something wrong in the store.
But as you say, if it works then this will end up being a trend, just cause a bit of trouble and you'll get your way.
To take up SG's statement again with the "standard" I got 50 spins of 20 cents each on a German competitor site for my bday whose name I won almost 50 euros... And now hold on SG this money was also completely turnover-free and without limit that after 15 euros the slot simply closes...and I left far less to hardly anything compared to what I burned with you 😉
You have set this standard, maybe think about it and maybe don't distribute 1 euro spins if you don't want to give the valued customer more than 15€ 😉
R3hab wrote on 10.03.2024 at 20:49: Oh God, camps are forming 😂
Give him something, my face what a behavior..Mimi I want too
Hahaha omg
This has nothing to do with giving or not giving. No one would have anything against Hustlehoff or whoever else winning tons of money from free spins on any given day. But the predetermined rule limits the win. Sure, it's annoying, but I know from the very first spin that I'll only win a maximum of €15 today. How many times has someone walked into the forum and shouted "cheat, cheat, cheat" because their balance was wiped out down to the EZ? Sometimes it was the max payout that took...effect, sometimes it was the Max Bet Rule that took... effect, sometimes it was the forbidden games that took effect. The unanimous tenor each time, and rightly so: "It says so in the rules...you have to read them". So why this is making such waves now is a bit unclear to me. Everyone involved here has been around long enough and is therefore aware of these incontrovertible circumstances.
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It's quite simple, if he doesn't feel he's in good hands there, he won't play there anymore!
If StarGames thinks they have to do it this way, they have to draw the possible consequences!
And the fuss about Max payout is almost a daily occurrence here, how many have not received thousands of euros because of cap max 50 euros!
As an experienced player you know this crap!
There are quite a few no Deposit specialists here who experience this every week.
Langhans wrote on March 10th, 2024 at 9:20 pm:
This has nothing to do with gifting or not gifting. Nobody would have anything against it if Hustlehoff or whoever won tons of money from free spins on any given day. But the predetermined rule limits the win. Sure, it's annoying, but I know from the very first spin that I'll only win a maximum of €15 today. How many times has someone walked into the forum and shouted "cheat, cheat, cheat" because their balance was wiped out down to the EZ? Sometimes it was the max payout that took...effect, sometimes it was the Max Bet Rule that took... effect, sometimes it was the forbidden games that took effect. The unanimous tenor each time, and rightly so: "It says so in the rules...you have to read them". So why this is making such waves now is a bit unclear to me. Everyone involved here has been around long enough and is therefore aware of these incontrovertible circumstances.
It's also about changing something, but unfortunately it's only changing for the worse.
So we players are to blame for these terms and conditions with the bonus conditions?
We should play somewhere else?
I don't understand you, I really don't.
Novomatic o Merkur o everyone else
Are nothing more than drug producers
Who simply exploit it because they know the addicts will come back,
That's a fact.
And you think players should accept it as it is? Read the terms and conditions and shut up and be happy? Is that what you mean?
The turnover of StarGames and its parent company Novomatic
Have a look
According to the Global Gambling Report by Global Betting and Gaming Consultants (GBGC), global gambling turnover in 2022 amounted to
(GBGC), global gambling revenues amounted to USD 466.7 billion in 2022, exceeding the 2019 level before the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic. The increase compared
the previous year is 11.2%. The highest increase can be attributed to the betting sector, which generated around 16.6% higher
The growth is due, among other things, to the constantly growing digital infrastructure and mobile access options
mobile access options. For 2023, the experts at GBGC are forecasting global gaming revenue of
turnover in the amount of USD 494.3 billion.
You can find the entire PDF with 250 pages on the Internet
So tell me, are all these AGB nonsense regulations fair for both parties or just for one?
This is about the fuc** principle
So please don't give me that
It's also about changing something, but unfortunately it only changes for the worse.
So we players are to blame why there are these terms and conditions with the bonus conditions?
We should play somewhere else then?
I don't understand you, I really don't.
Novomatic o Merkur o everyone else
Are nothing more than drug producers
Who simply exploit it because they know the addicts will come back,
That's a fact.
And you think players should accept it as it is? Read the terms and conditions and shut up and be happy? Is that what you mean?
The turnover of StarGames and its parent company Novomatic
Have a look
According to the Global Gambling Report by Global Betting and Gaming Consultants (GBGC), global gambling turnover in 2022 amounted to
(GBGC), global gambling revenues amounted to USD 466.7 billion in 2022, exceeding the 2019 level before the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic. The increase compared
the previous year is 11.2%. The highest increase can be attributed to the betting sector, which generated around 16.6% higher
The growth is due, among other things, to the steadily growing digital infrastructure and mobile access options
mobile access options. For 2023, the experts at GBGC are forecasting global gaming revenue of
turnover in the amount of USD 494.3 billion.
You can find the entire PDF with 250 pages on the Internet
So tell me, are all these AGB nonsense regulations fair for both parties or just for one?
This is about the fuc** principle
So please don't give me that
GTCs are not about fair or not, they are simply the rules!
If you open a store or a website and earn money with it, you usually create terms and conditions to accommodate your own rules beyond the legal rules that should not conflict with the law, otherwise the terms and conditions are ineffective and only the legal rules are valid
But if you have set up such rules that do not conflict with any valid law, these are your rules for your company that anyone can look at and if they are satisfied with them ok if not they just have to look for another company
If I come to your home I have to follow your rules whether I like it or not I only have the option to visit someone else if I don't like it at all
In this case, of course, it went extremely unfavorably and you can also communicate openly whether such an offer is now good bad or totally stupid but nevertheless this was still a gift without having a contractual right to it
AGB's are not about fair or not, they are simply the rules!
If you open a store or a website and earn money with it, you usually create terms and conditions to accommodate your own rules beyond the legal rules that should not conflict with the laws, otherwise the terms and conditions are ineffective and only the legal rules are valid
But if you have set up such rules that do not conflict with any valid law, these are your rules for your company that anyone can look at and if they are satisfied with them ok if not they just have to look for another company
If I come to your home I have to follow your rules whether I like it or not I only have the option to visit someone else if I don't like it at all
In this case, of course, it was extremely unfavorable and you can also openly communicate whether such an offer is now good bad or totally stupid, but nevertheless this was still a gift without having a contractual right to it
Terms and conditions here and there. Have you ever experienced at any casino that something is limited to only 15 euros? At least not in my entire gambling life. Even at the Curacao booths you get at least 25/30 euros for Nodeposit Fs, haha. And besides, a birthday present should be something special.
And before I start gambling at StarGames, I'd rather go to the Interwettencode thread, haha
It's also about changing something, but unfortunately it only changes for the worse.
So we players are to blame why there are these terms and conditions with the bonus conditions?
We should play somewhere else then?
I don't understand you, I really don't.
Novomatic o Merkur o everyone else
Are nothing more than drug producers
Who simply exploit it because they know the addicts will come back,
That's a fact.
And you think players should accept it as it is? Read the terms and conditions and shut up and be happy? Is that what you mean?
The turnover of StarGames and its parent company Novomatic
Have a look
According to the Global Gambling Report by Global Betting and Gaming Consultants (GBGC), global gambling turnover in 2022 amounted to
(GBGC), global gambling revenues amounted to USD 466.7 billion in 2022, exceeding the 2019 level before the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic. The increase compared
the previous year is 11.2%. The highest increase can be attributed to the betting sector, which generated around 16.6% higher
The growth is due, among other things, to the constantly growing digital infrastructure and mobile access options
mobile access options. For 2023, the experts at GBGC are forecasting global gaming revenue of
turnover in the amount of USD 494.3 billion.
You can find the entire PDF with 250 pages on the Internet
So tell me, are all these AGB nonsense regulations fair for both parties or just for one?
This is about the fuc** principle
So please don't give me that
Isn't it going a bit too far if we're still sticking our noses into the balance sheets of gambling companies
Nope, we players are not to blame for the bonus conditions. We players are only to blame if we play where they are totally bad. I can only speak for myself, but I choose very carefully which terms and conditions I can get along with at which Provider and which I reject. I also tailor my playing style to where I'm playing and what the conditions are at the time. But none of this prevents me or anyone else from landing a big hit with €1 spins as a birthday present and then having to be quite annoyed. It's all human, but not logical in a factual sense.
It's undisputed that the stalls have by far the longer leverage, make it anything but easy for the player and often work under unfair conditions.... But nobody is forced to do business with them if they don't like the circumstances.
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No, of course I'm annoyed and grudgingly say thank you 😄 Maybe I'm too uptight about it...
For me, depositing money in a casino is not necessarily goodwill but a way to pursue my hobby and relax with a bit of excitement in the meantime.
But of course I only Deposit where I like it and where I am satisfied with the offer.
Yes, but it's really annoying, I understand... I wouldn't feel any differently
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I agree with you. If that's rewarded, I'll be terrorized every time I get over the 15€ rule from now on It's easy money then
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Give him something, my face what a behavior..Mimi I want too
Hahaha omg
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That's not my point that it's a stupid rule is out of the question... Let them at least set the limit to 100 for the bday spins, SG wouldn't gnaw on the starvation towel if there's something wrong in the store.
But as you say, if it works then this will end up being a trend, just cause a bit of trouble and you'll get your way.
To take up SG's statement again with the "standard" I got 50 spins of 20 cents each on a German competitor site for my bday whose name I won almost 50 euros... And now hold on SG this money was also completely turnover-free and without limit that after 15 euros the slot simply closes...and I left far less to hardly anything compared to what I burned with you 😉
You have set this standard, maybe think about it and maybe don't distribute 1 euro spins if you don't want to give the valued customer more than 15€ 😉
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This has nothing to do with giving or not giving. No one would have anything against Hustlehoff or whoever else winning tons of money from free spins on any given day. But the predetermined rule limits the win. Sure, it's annoying, but I know from the very first spin that I'll only win a maximum of €15 today. How many times has someone walked into the forum and shouted "cheat, cheat, cheat" because their balance was wiped out down to the EZ? Sometimes it was the max payout that took...effect, sometimes it was the Max Bet Rule that took... effect, sometimes it was the forbidden games that took effect. The unanimous tenor each time, and rightly so: "It says so in the rules...you have to read them". So why this is making such waves now is a bit unclear to me. Everyone involved here has been around long enough and is therefore aware of these incontrovertible circumstances.
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If StarGames thinks they have to do it this way, they have to draw the possible consequences!
And the fuss about Max payout is almost a daily occurrence here, how many have not received thousands of euros because of cap max 50 euros!
As an experienced player you know this crap!
There are quite a few no Deposit specialists here who experience this every week.
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It's also about changing something, but unfortunately it's only changing for the worse.
So we players are to blame for these terms and conditions with the bonus conditions?
We should play somewhere else?
I don't understand you, I really don't.
Novomatic o Merkur o everyone else
Are nothing more than drug producers
Who simply exploit it because they know the addicts will come back,
That's a fact.
And you think players should accept it as it is? Read the terms and conditions and shut up and be happy? Is that what you mean?
The turnover of StarGames and its parent company Novomatic
Have a look
According to the Global Gambling Report by Global Betting and Gaming Consultants (GBGC), global gambling turnover in 2022 amounted to
(GBGC), global gambling revenues amounted to USD 466.7 billion in 2022, exceeding the 2019 level before the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic. The increase compared
the previous year is 11.2%. The highest increase can be attributed to the betting sector, which generated around 16.6% higher
The growth is due, among other things, to the constantly growing digital infrastructure and mobile access options
mobile access options. For 2023, the experts at GBGC are forecasting global gaming revenue of
turnover in the amount of USD 494.3 billion.
You can find the entire PDF with 250 pages on the Internet
So tell me, are all these AGB nonsense regulations fair for both parties or just for one?
This is about the fuc** principle
So please don't give me that
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GTCs are not about fair or not, they are simply the rules!
If you open a store or a website and earn money with it, you usually create terms and conditions to accommodate your own rules beyond the legal rules that should not conflict with the law, otherwise the terms and conditions are ineffective and only the legal rules are valid
But if you have set up such rules that do not conflict with any valid law, these are your rules for your company that anyone can look at and if they are satisfied with them ok if not they just have to look for another company
If I come to your home I have to follow your rules whether I like it or not I only have the option to visit someone else if I don't like it at all
In this case, of course, it went extremely unfavorably and you can also communicate openly whether such an offer is now good bad or totally stupid but nevertheless this was still a gift without having a contractual right to it
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Terms and conditions here and there. Have you ever experienced at any casino that something is limited to only 15 euros? At least not in my entire gambling life. Even at the Curacao booths you get at least 25/30 euros for Nodeposit Fs, haha. And besides, a birthday present should be something special.
And before I start gambling at StarGames, I'd rather go to the Interwettencode thread, haha
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Isn't it going a bit too far if we're still sticking our noses into the balance sheets of gambling companies
Nope, we players are not to blame for the bonus conditions. We players are only to blame if we play where they are totally bad. I can only speak for myself, but I choose very carefully which terms and conditions I can get along with at which Provider and which I reject. I also tailor my playing style to where I'm playing and what the conditions are at the time. But none of this prevents me or anyone else from landing a big hit with €1 spins as a birthday present and then having to be quite annoyed. It's all human, but not logical in a factual sense.
It's undisputed that the stalls have by far the longer leverage, make it anything but easy for the player and often work under unfair conditions.... But nobody is forced to do business with them if they don't like the circumstances.
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