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6th Mar. 2023, at 10:32 pm CET#1
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I have played today for the first time
At Stake.com Blackjack eig I have even played the first time ever Blackjack online. Well it was offered live by Evolution at least Bet 1€ could play me up from 5€ to 45€ fine and good just won and then lost everything again (my own fault). But I noticed that the Dealer at my hand, for example, says "Bust" or "to high" before he has uncovered the card at all. This was the case all the time. But even if I had a 20 or 21 or whatever and won afterwards, he could tell me the number before he turned the card up. It was the same with other players.
And the other time I had a 20 with 2 kings and the dealer had an ace and just before he revealed his 2 card was with me and with all the others lost. Before he revealed his queen and had a BJ.
Is this somehow normal ? Or is this a delay in the transfer ?
I won and lost is also normal. But that the dealer always said the number before the card is revealed makes me wonder.
I have played today for the first time
At Stake.com Blackjack played eig have I even the first time ever Blackjack online played. Well it was offered live by Evolution at least Bet 1€ could play me up from 5€ to 45€ fine and good just won and then lost everything again (my own fault). But I noticed that the Dealer at my hand, for example, says "Bust" or "to high" before he has uncovered the card at all. This was the case all the time. But even if I had a 20 or 21 or whatever and won afterwards, he could tell me the number before he turned the card up. It was the same with other players.
And the other time I had a 20 with 2 kings and the dealer had an ace and just before he revealed his 2 card was with me and with all the others lost. Before he revealed his queen and had a BJ.
Is this somehow normal ? Or is this a delay in the transfer ?
I won and lost is also normal. But that the dealer always said the number before the card is revealed makes me wonder.
I hope someone can enlighten me.
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As soon as the dealer scans the card, the card is shown to him on the screen. They have aufjedenfall a screen, because they can always see which players join the table and greet the new players accordingly. Sometimes you also see that they scroll with a mouse and read the chat.
They know without hesitation what score the players have. Have also seen from time to time, which very quickly give each other the cards. Faster than a human can even think and calculate and without looking.
The cards have chips on them and are scanned by the dealer. The computer knows which card is the 2nd card for the dealer (based on the hands played in the round, the computer simply calculates this). The 2nd card is already scanned, but only visible to the dealer or on his screen. Only when the Insurance option is over, the card is then revealed at a BJ.
So yes, all normal. Some dealers are so routine that the have a fast pace and it is hardly noticeable. Some, on the other hand, are a little slower and it is noticeable. But it is not a scam. The only disadvantage compared to an offline Blackjack is that they have 8 decks and the number of 10s is correspondingly higher. Card counting is also not possible, because not all 8 decks are played. If the cutting card is scanned, then the shoe is changed.
I play BJ myself and have had the most unlikely rounds from time to time. Just on Sunday 2x 125€ hands played. Both 20. dealer has 8. he reveals ne 3 and then ne 10. Lost But that's Blackjack. The next game I won because the dealer is busted with 22.
If you look closely, you can see a barcode scanner right in front of the shoe.
This is the moment when the Dealer sees on a monitor which card it is. The good dealers wait a second longer, the others are partly new dealers, or listless, who probably don't give a damn about the gaming experience.
Sometimes this can also be due to technical reasons, that sound or image is "there" a little earlier. But I never had that with Evolution. With Lucky Streak it was once so that the sound arrived a good 2 seconds later than the image, That was completely confusing.
Fleasy wrote on 07/03/2023 at 16:59: Thanks for the answers then I know . Had already wondered .
But with Evolution I have scam eig excluded I think the have's not Nötig ^^
For what also? The whole thing is a big money printing machine, which yields 100% win.
And if they would do something, then certainly not so obvious and clumsy that the dealers blab.
Besides, I know firsthand that the dealers there have a pretty bad wage. So they work there already p**sed off on principle and could hardly wait to choke them one and to bring the fraud to the report.
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7th Mar. 2023, at 05:09 pm CET#8
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Falcon wrote on 07.03.2023 at 17:03:
Also, I know first hand that the dealers there have pretty bad wages.
Can you define that a bit more? I've been interested in that for a long time, what a Crazy Time host gets per h for example.
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Falcon wrote on 07/03/2023 at 17:03:
For what also? The whole thing is a big money printing machine with 100% win.
And if they were going to do something, it certainly wouldn't be so obvious and heavy-handed that the dealers would spill the beans.
Besides, I know firsthand that the dealers there have a pretty bad wage. So they work there already p**sed off on principle and couldn't wait to choke them and report the fraud to the police.
Can you define this a bit more? I've been interested in this for a long time, what a Crazy Time host gets per h for example.
My info on this is already a bit outdated (about 4 years) and I also don't know if this is the same for every provider. There are several providers who offer live games.
In any case, I have met some dealers who have then later started there and have also heard from other colleagues at the time there again and again what. The salary should be about 1,800 €. Normally, a Dealer also works a lot with tips, etc.. There, however, one is permanently employed and gets just about as much as a supermarket employee. As a dealer, you could earn between 4,000 - 8,000, depending on where and how much you worked.
I don't know if this is also true for Crazy-Time, I know dealers who work at the tables. I hardly ever play live tables myself. Are these the same dealers who also make the tables?
After the law has changed and the Poker boom has declined, many of them had to start there.
But at least they earn better than in the Czech King casinos. There, the earnings are really a farce.
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7th Mar. 2023, at 10:10 pm CET#11
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Falke wrote on 07/03/2023 at 18:02:
My info on this is already a bit outdated (about 4 years) and I also don't know if this is the same for every provider. After all, there are several providers that offer live games.
Anyway, I have met some dealers who then later started there and have also heard from other colleagues at the time there again and again what. The salary should be about 1,800 €. Normally, a Dealer also works a lot with tips, etc.. There, however, one is permanently employed and gets just about as much as a supermarket employee. As a dealer, you could earn between 4,000 - 8,000, depending on where and how much you worked.
I don't know if this is also true for Crazy-Time, I know dealers who work at the tables. I hardly ever play live tables myself. Are these the same dealers who also make the tables?
After the law has changed and the Poker boom has declined, many of them had to start there.
But at least they earn better than in the Czech King casinos. There, the earnings are really a farce.
I mean Evolution Gaming has their studio in Riga, Latvia. I can well imagine that they recruit students for these hosting jobs. But should be m.M.n. really better paid. What the all for a trash and insults must read through, and again and again the same. Would I personally psychologically quite exhausting.
I mean Evolution Gaming has their studio in Riga, Latvia. I can imagine that they recruit students for these hosting jobs. But should be m.M.n. really better paid. What they have to read through everything for a trash and insults, and again and again the same. Would I personally psychologically quite exhausting.
It may well be that some students join in, but you really shouldn't underestimate the training. The people I know who are there are all trained dealers who have been there for a long time.
Until you know all the rules, etc. it takes some time.
Evolution has over 20 studios worldwide. Training to become a Game.Presenter/Dealer takes 1 week, in some cases 3 weeks and is paid.
Payment depends on the location and is between 10 € and 25 € per hour.
Justin wrote on 03/07/2023 at 23:36: Evolution has over 20 studios worldwide. Training to become a Game.Presenter/Dealer takes 1 week, in some cases 3 weeks and is paid.
Pay is based on location and ranges from €10 to €25 per hour.
https://careers.evolution.com/all-vacancies/
Well, you also have to say that the games there are very simplified. As a Dealer there you don't have to cut chips, you don't have to take percentages for the house, you don't have to calculate in your head, you don't have to make any changes and you don't have any customer contact. You really only have to understand the basic rules and I can even imagine that they are shown on a screen what they have to do and that they are also shown the sum of the cards etc.
At which location they pay €25, I want to see. That's probably the maximum hourly rate if you work weekends at night and therefore get more than usual.
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I have played today for the first time
At Stake.com Blackjack eig I have even played the first time ever Blackjack online. Well it was offered live by Evolution at least Bet 1€ could play me up from 5€ to 45€ fine and good just won and then lost everything again (my own fault). But I noticed that the Dealer at my hand, for example, says "Bust" or "to high" before he has uncovered the card at all. This was the case all the time. But even if I had a 20 or 21 or whatever and won afterwards, he could tell me the number before he turned the card up. It was the same with other players.
And the other time I had a 20 with 2 kings and the dealer had an ace and just before he revealed his 2 card was with me and with all the others lost. Before he revealed his queen and had a BJ.
Is this somehow normal ? Or is this a delay in the transfer ?
I won and lost is also normal. But that the dealer always said the number before the card is revealed makes me wonder.
I hope someone can enlighten me.
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As soon as the dealer scans the card, the card is shown to him on the screen. They have aufjedenfall a screen, because they can always see which players join the table and greet the new players accordingly. Sometimes you also see that they scroll with a mouse and read the chat.
They know without hesitation what score the players have. Have also seen from time to time, which very quickly give each other the cards. Faster than a human can even think and calculate and without looking.
The cards have chips on them and are scanned by the dealer. The computer knows which card is the 2nd card for the dealer (based on the hands played in the round, the computer simply calculates this). The 2nd card is already scanned, but only visible to the dealer or on his screen. Only when the Insurance option is over, the card is then revealed at a BJ.
So yes, all normal. Some dealers are so routine that the have a fast pace and it is hardly noticeable. Some, on the other hand, are a little slower and it is noticeable. But it is not a scam. The only disadvantage compared to an offline Blackjack is that they have 8 decks and the number of 10s is correspondingly higher. Card counting is also not possible, because not all 8 decks are played. If the cutting card is scanned, then the shoe is changed.
I play BJ myself and have had the most unlikely rounds from time to time. Just on Sunday 2x 125€ hands played. Both 20. dealer has 8. he reveals ne 3 and then ne 10. Lost But that's Blackjack. The next game I won because the dealer is busted with 22.
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This is the moment when the Dealer sees on a monitor which card it is. The good dealers wait a second longer, the others are partly new dealers, or listless, who probably don't give a damn about the gaming experience.
Sometimes this can also be due to technical reasons, that sound or image is "there" a little earlier. But I never had that with Evolution. With Lucky Streak it was once so that the sound arrived a good 2 seconds later than the image, That was completely confusing.
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But with Evolution I have scam eig excluded I think they have's not Nötig ^^
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For what also? The whole thing is a big money printing machine, which yields 100% win.
And if they would do something, then certainly not so obvious and clumsy that the dealers blab.
Besides, I know firsthand that the dealers there have a pretty bad wage. So they work there already p**sed off on principle and could hardly wait to choke them one and to bring the fraud to the report.
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Can you define that a bit more? I've been interested in that for a long time, what a Crazy Time host gets per h for example.
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What fraud ?
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My info on this is already a bit outdated (about 4 years) and I also don't know if this is the same for every provider. There are several providers who offer live games.
In any case, I have met some dealers who have then later started there and have also heard from other colleagues at the time there again and again what. The salary should be about 1,800 €. Normally, a Dealer also works a lot with tips, etc.. There, however, one is permanently employed and gets just about as much as a supermarket employee. As a dealer, you could earn between 4,000 - 8,000, depending on where and how much you worked.
I don't know if this is also true for Crazy-Time, I know dealers who work at the tables. I hardly ever play live tables myself. Are these the same dealers who also make the tables?
After the law has changed and the Poker boom has declined, many of them had to start there.
But at least they earn better than in the Czech King casinos. There, the earnings are really a farce.
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I mean Evolution Gaming has their studio in Riga, Latvia. I can well imagine that they recruit students for these hosting jobs. But should be m.M.n. really better paid. What the all for a trash and insults must read through, and again and again the same. Would I personally psychologically quite exhausting.
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It may well be that some students join in, but you really shouldn't underestimate the training. The people I know who are there are all trained dealers who have been there for a long time.
Until you know all the rules, etc. it takes some time.
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Payment depends on the location and is between 10 € and 25 € per hour.
https://careers.evolution.com/all-vacancies/
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Well, you also have to say that the games there are very simplified. As a Dealer there you don't have to cut chips, you don't have to take percentages for the house, you don't have to calculate in your head, you don't have to make any changes and you don't have any customer contact. You really only have to understand the basic rules and I can even imagine that they are shown on a screen what they have to do and that they are also shown the sum of the cards etc.
At which location they pay €25, I want to see. That's probably the maximum hourly rate if you work weekends at night and therefore get more than usual.
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look it up yourself, the URL is in the last post.
When I do it costs more, my hourly rate is a lot higher
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