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Online Casinos in general: Stake Crypto Casino win and payout

Topic created on 30th May. 2024 | Page: 1 of 5 | Answers: 64 | Views: 6,993
Iknowyou
Experienced
Hi everyone, I have a question for those of you who regularly play at stake.

I've been lucky there the last few days and now have a good 6-figure sum on my crypto exchange account.

What does it look like now? Do I have any possibility to withdraw the money e.g. to my bank account without consequences? Not licensed because of Stake. Then there are crypto taxes.

I had already considered sending it from my exchange to Coinbase and then to my bank account with the agreement of my advisor. But I probably have to report this to the tax office. But I don't just have to tell them the amount, but also the wins or the funds I used to buy crypto.

Does anyone have any experience with this without having to deal with the authorities directly?

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gamble1
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Iknowyou wrote on 30.05.2024 at 10:31 am: Moin everyone, I have a question for those who play regularly at stake.

I've been lucky there the last few days and now have a good 6-figure sum on my crypto exchange account.

What does it look like now? Do I have any possibility to withdraw the money e.g. to my bank account without consequences? Not licensed because of Stake. Then there are crypto taxes.

I had already considered sending it from my exchange to Coinbase and then to my bank account with the agreement of my advisor. But I probably have to report this to the tax office. But I don't just have to tell them the amount, but also the wins or the funds I used to buy crypto.

Does anyone have experience with this without having to deal with the authorities directly?

If I were in Germany and had such a problem, I would send the money to Coinbase bit by bit and withdraw the 900 a day with the Coinbase credit card and also top up my Skrill account via the Coinbase credit card and then use the limit of the Skrill credit card every day

Coinbase credit card costs no fees when withdrawing and topping up Skrill with the Coinbase card does cost a little but it's better than topping up the account

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Xavi22
Expert

gamble1 wrote on 30.05.2024 at 15:28:
If I were in DE and had such a problem, I would send the money piece by piece to Coinbase and withdraw the 900 a day with the Coinbase credit card and also top up my Skrill account via the Coinbase credit card and then use the limit of the Skrill credit card every day

Coinbase credit card costs no fees when withdrawing and topping up Skrill with the Coinbase card does cost a little but it's better than topping up your account

This is certainly the easiest and safest method. In general, you can use credit cards that accept crypto depositors.

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zocker0815
Top Member
how much was it, if you write a good 6-digit sum?

more than 200k?

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moralischverwerflich
Expert

Iknowyou wrote on 30.05.2024 at 10:31 am: Moin everyone, I have a question for those who play regularly at stake.

I've been lucky there the last few days and now have a good 6-figure sum on my crypto exchange account.

What does it look like now? Do I have any possibility to withdraw the money e.g. to my bank account without consequences? Not licensed because of Stake. Then there are crypto taxes.

I had already considered sending it from my exchange to Coinbase and then to my bank account with the agreement of my advisor. But I probably have to report this to the tax office. But I don't just have to tell them the amount, but also the wins or the funds I used to buy crypto.

Does anyone have experience with this without having the authorities on your ass?

You don't HAVE to report anything to the tax office. This has already been explained several times here.

Procedure:
From stake to an external wallet.
From the wallet to an exchange and then sell there.
From the exchange to the account or withdraw with the card.
Done.
If you don't have a stable coin, send it to the exchange in a short period of time and exchange it for USDT, for example, and then back to your wallet. If you want to take your time when paying out. USDT is pegged to the dollar and therefore very stable in value. If you want to pull this over a few months, you will lose the least money or actually almost nothing.
With other cryptos, it could happen that from one day to the next the value falls so massively that you can't even get a slice of bread from it in the end.
For further details and tips, please send me a PN

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gamble1
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morallyreprehensible wrote on May 30, 2024 at 6:10 pm:

You don't HAVE to report anything to the tax office. Already explained several times here.

Procedure:
From stake to an external wallet.
From the wallet to an exchange and then sell there.
From the exchange to the account or withdraw with the card.
Done.
If you don't have a stable coin, send it to the exchange in a short period of time and exchange it for USDT, for example, and then back to your wallet. If you want to take your time when paying out. USDT is pegged to the dollar and therefore very stable in value. If you want to pull this over a few months, you will lose the least money or actually almost nothing.
With other cryptos, it could happen that from one day to the next the value falls so massively that you can't even get a slice of bread from it in the end.
For further details and tips, please send me a PN

I wouldn't send anything to the account at all, as questions will inevitably arise if there are large amounts coming in. I wouldn't even send legal crypto profits to the account, as you can send information to the tax office about the wins through the exchange rate even without the bank account

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jasminberlin
Rookie
create a crypto.com account and get a Visa credit card there

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moralischverwerflich
Expert

gamble1 wrote on 30.05.2024 at 19:30:
I wouldn't send anything to the account at all because there are inevitably questions about high receipts would not even send legal crypto profits to the account the tax office can be sent information about the wins through the course even without the bank account

Paying out to the account is not a problem, of course not several K at once. Spread it out a bit in terms of time, then no questions will arise. I've been doing this for almost 3 years without any problems.

In addition, there are countless providers who offer free accounts, so you can spread it out and secure a larger amount within a short time without worrying.
Then there are e-wallets with cards and you can increase this even further with cash withdrawals....
There are so many possibilities, you just have to do something... Sure, there are fees everywhere when withdrawing cash, but it's better to lose a few euros and have the money safe.
I can't remember the last time I withdrew cash from my normal account, all via e-wallets.

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frapi07
Elite

morallyreprehensible wrote on 31.05.2024 06:52:

Paying out to the account is no problem, of course not several K at once. Spread it out a bit in terms of time, then there will be no questions. I've been doing this for almost 3 years without any problems.

In addition, there are countless providers who offer free accounts, so you can spread it out and secure a large amount within a short time without having to worry.
Then there are e-wallets with cards and you can increase this even further with cash withdrawals....
There are so many possibilities, you just have to do something... Sure, there are fees everywhere when withdrawing cash, but it's better to lose a few euros and have the money safe.
I can't remember the last time I withdrew cash from my normal account, all via e-wallets.


I would be interested to know how many € in fees there are per 1000€. How much would have to be credited to the card to get €1000 in cash? Is that 20-30€?

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moralischverwerflich
Expert

frapi07 wrote on 31.05.2024 at 07:09:

I would be interested to know how many € in fees per 1000€. How much would you have to credit the KKarte to get 1000€ cash on the claw? Is that 20-30€?

Yes, pretty much to the point.

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frapi07
Elite

morallyreprehensible wrote on 31.05.2024 09:48:

Yeah pretty much to the point.

Thanks for the answer. It's quite a chunk, I think.

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gamble1
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frapi07 wrote on 31.05.2024 09:56:

Thanks for the answer. It's quite a lot, I think.

But you also have to say it varies a lot from Provider to provider and more importantly from which bank you withdraw the money Sparkasse e.g. I think for 1k takes the 10-20 € + always and in any case 4 € (the 10-20 were a few years ago no idea how it is now)

Coinbase, for example, I pay a good €0 in fees for withdrawals

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frapi07
Elite

gamble1 wrote on 31.05.2024 at 12:42 pm:
But you also have to say it varies a lot from Provider to provider and more importantly from which bank you draw the money Sparkasse e.g. I think for 1k takes the 10-20 € + always and in any case 4 € (the 10-20 were a few years ago no idea how it is now)

Coinbase, for example, I pay a good €0 in fees for withdrawals

These 4€ are then per withdrawal, right?


I also read on reddit that Coinbase will not hesitate to ban your account if they detect such movements.

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gamble1
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frapi07 wrote on 31.05.2024 at 20:39:

This 4€ is then per withdrawal, right?


I also read on reddit that Coinbase will not hesitate to ban your account if they detect such movements.

Yes, the €4 is per withdrawal no matter how many euros you withdraw, even if it's only €10 at the Sparkasse


Well, what are such movements? BC Games, for example, also has an option on the site to just store the cryptos and earn interest on them, so you don't have to play them, so you wouldn't be doing anything illegal, so they couldn't ban you just for sending and receiving them

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frapi07
Elite

gamble1 wrote on 01.06.2024 05:58:

Yes the 4 € are per withdrawal no matter how many euros you withdraw even if it is only 10 € at the Sparkasse


Well, what are such movements? BC Games, for example, also has an option on the site to just store the cryptos and earn interest on them, so you don't have to play them, so you wouldn't be doing anything illegal, so they couldn't ban you just for sending and receiving them

Yes, then only the maximum withdrawal amount is worthwhile. I've read that it's always around €900, even if it's not, you can only withdraw a maximum of €1000 per day from the machines.


I have translated an answer so that you understand what I mean:

Coinbase's terms and conditions explicitly state that you may not use the service for online gambling.

You can probably get away with it a few times, but at some point Coinbase can and will suspend your account if you violate the terms. This has happened countless times to users on this subreddit.

The same goes for Kraken, Gemini, FTX, Crypto, Binance US and many other regulated crypto exchanges.


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