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Online Casinos in general: Spontaneous PSC action from me (Page 16)

Topic created on 19th Sep. 2018 | Page: 16 of 17 | Answers: 165 | Views: 34,144
T0uchTheSky
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Spontaneous PSC action from me

27th Sep. 2018, at 01:18 pm CEST#151
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Julian wrote on 27.09.2018 at 12:54 pm: We can understand that some users are annoyed or generally suspicious about such PSC actions that are started by other users.
However, this is not as easy to solve as some users may think
There was a case in the past where someone wanted to start a Paysafecard action and the "giver" forwarded it directly to us
When the lottery was to take place later, it suddenly turned out that all the Paysafe cards had already been used up and so we had the problem on our hands and looked stupid.

Even if we would intervene in the future in all actions and the codes must first be sent to us, there is still the same Risk that someone uses the Paysafe cards again for himself because he has changed his mind or is in a bad mood or just wants to gamble again.
And if such a situation arises again, we as Gamblejoe must again be liable for it and stand straight. And for that the risk is just too big.

We will talk internally as a team about it and try to come to a solution.

One could do it also in such a way: The person who wants to raffle something can send the money to the GJ-Team via PayPal, Neteller etc. and the GJ-Team will buy the Paysafe cards. Only when the money has arrived with you, then the person may create a raffle thread here in the forum ^^

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s****e

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27th Sep. 2018, at 01:20 pm CEST#152
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legally nevertheless so ne thing.
what if the other says he has sent the money via PayPal,
but it can never arrive?

then it would be really reasonable to prohibit that completely!
per pn gehts but also. then they should pick out a few,
and send them directly.

also do not believe that gj on it lust and time has.

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Anonym

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27th Sep. 2018, at 01:28 pm CEST#153
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Ehh what are you doing here so, then he just changed his mind. But no one has come to harm, as in real life no one gives you anything and begging around here is really undignified

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s****e

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27th Sep. 2018, at 01:36 pm CEST#154
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qwertee, i absolutely agree with you. i'm against all these lotteries anyway.

but even worse or more undignified i find it, to promise something
to make a promise, to announce something in a pompous way,
and then not keeping your word. that's a question of character.

and to say here, sorry, i have paid my debts or gambled everything away, is no problem
no problem. then you should at least be honest.

but today's character is such that you just don't get in touch anymore and sit everything out.
that is not ok. then i don't do such a garbage in the first place!

that is simply out of character.

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Daniel
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Spontaneous PSC action from me

27th Sep. 2018, at 01:59 pm CEST#155
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There are three existential rules:

Rule #1: Never trust a player when it comes to money.
Rule #2: Never take a player's word for it when it comes to money.
Rule #3: Only trust players with money you can easily afford to lose.

You have to be able to put something like this away in a player forum when a promised action by a user doesn't come. One should not really believe such actions until one has received AND ALSO USED the Paysafecard. One should think: If it comes, then it comes. And if it does not come, then it does not come.

I don't want to ban any PSC actions by users. Actually, I would prefer not to ban anything at all. This is not a GDR forum here. As I said, I also lent HammerDammer money at that time - I made an exception because he was here from the beginning. When the money didn't come and when I found out that Hammerdammer did the same with other members here in the forum, I was of course disappointed. But it was my own fault that I "lent" him money. I just had to put away in the end. Is just so.

We can not and do not want to play mom and dad - especially when something takes place in our private chat. You have to be careful what you do here and you must also be able to say no. Or you say to yourself, I'm willing to take the Risk, but may not open a barrel if it goes wrong.

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s****e

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27th Sep. 2018, at 02:00 pm CEST#156
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but is not thus the distrust in this forum promoted?
that will only cause trouble!

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Daniel
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27th Sep. 2018, at 02:19 pm CEST#157
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stkrie wrote on 27.09.2018 at 14:00: but does not this promote distrust in this forum?
that only gives trouble!

as I have already described with my three rules, players are just people who must be approached with mistrust in principle when it comes to money. Many players are like that (inside and outside GambleJoe). And every gambler claims he is an exception and he is not like many others. I have also lost a lot of money because I "helped" players. Even from a High Roller who makes 30K net a month and plays 4 machines with 5€ / spin at the same time, I have not gotten my money back (1,000€) until today. You just have to put it away and move on. You are an adult, can decide for yourself and actually knows the dangers. You may have to fall on your face once or several times in life to learn.

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s****e

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27th Sep. 2018, at 02:29 pm CEST#158
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i agree with you. it's just a pity and unfair that something like this is initiated here, and in the end
nothing comes of it.
should then be excluded at least for the future of your psc lottery.
then see how it is.
think, one should keep his word, even if that probably looks different with zockern.
a little bit of character and honesty should be present here, too, otherwise you have to
question everything!

but if you exclude them, such people might think twice about what they are
there do, or think before, whether they so anleiern!

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Anonym

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27th Sep. 2018, at 03:30 pm CEST#159
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stkrie wrote on 27.09.2018 at 14:29: i agree with you. it's just a pity and unfair that something like this is initiated here, and ultimately
nothing comes around.
should then be excluded at least for the future of your psc lottery.
then see how it is.
think, one should keep his word, even if that probably looks different with zockern.
a little bit of character and honesty should be present here, too, otherwise you have to
question everything!

but if you exclude them, such people might think twice about what they are
there do, or think before, whether they so anleiern!

I think that is a good idea. But I think it is superfluous, the person will then probably never show up here again or register under another name.

Lotteries, yes I think in the future if I want to make one and not allowed - because others have not kept their word, I would find it a pity and therefore Daniel's statement not to want to ban so much (preferably nothing) also for good.

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bruffl
Expert

Spontaneous PSC action from me

27th Sep. 2018, at 05:45 pm CEST#160
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i also see this quite pragmatically, certainly you should stand by your word.
None of us knows what happened in the meantime, maybe all the nagging in the first threads got on his nerves, or he
gambled it away again.
None of us came to any harm, as no one could safely assume a 10€ win.
Maybe Merkurzocker still reports....

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