morallyreprehensible wrote on 11.09.2024 at 12:03:
Even if I don't use the German booths and don't want to leave a good hair on them either.... But how else are they supposed to be economical? That's only possible with lower payout ratios. There are far fewer games in German casinos. Personnel costs are significantly higher in Germany. Taxes are highest in Germany.
You can't compare international casinos with German casinos.
In international casinos, people can Deposit as much as they want. In German casinos, it is limited to €1000, and that applies across all casinos.
So how can a German casino with a fraction of depositors and significantly higher operating costs offer the same RTP or anywhere near the same RTP compared to an international casino?
Just think about it for a moment.
Doesn't change the fact that I have a very limited appetite for the dirt. Even a normal German casino offers 94% RTP
DIE-SPIELBANK_en wrote on 11/09/2024 11:10:
Contrary to what you might think, it has nothing to do with exploitation. The RTP is usually lower because, unlike foreign casinos, there is a tax (5.3%). This means that the RTP is at least 5.3% lower, because otherwise the casino would pay extra on every spin. At least this is currently the most common procedure used by German platforms, because the platform systems can map this technically well and transparently.
The RTP of the respective slot (89% / 90% / 87% / 96%) is decided by the game manufacturer. They offer different versions that you can use as a platform Provider (provided the RTP version has been approved by the GGL, of course)
Lapalingo calculates the tax differently or in the background. This results in a higher RTP, but the tax is still deducted in the background with every spin. You can ask Lapalingo for details if you want to know more
The 5.3% tax is one thing (annoying enough). But why more and more slots are being offered at 84% (!!!) does NOT justify this tax. 96% (original RTP) is the figure for many games. That's a whopping 12 percent that is simply deducted, more than double the tax! If that's not exploitation.
as far as i know the casinos can choose whether they want to offer certain slots with 84, 86 or 90% rtp for example...
with the number of players, they can probably make the slots 10% worse and the gambling will still continue...it will never get better in German casinos again
roccoammo11 wrote on 11.09.2024 at 18:31: as far as I know, the casinos can choose whether they want to offer certain slots with 84, 86 or 90% rtp, for example.
with the number of players they can probably make the slots 10% worse & it will still be gambled on..it will never get better in German casinos again
The problem is, there are enough addicted or non-addicted regular depositors out there who don't give a damn if they have losses. There are enough people who have well-paid jobs, a large inheritance or their own company. There is no other explanation as to why German casinos still exist at all. In addition, there are players who don't care about the rules. As long as the casinos have enough income, there is no need to change anything. The fact that StarGames has become a premium sponsor of BVB (a major Champions League club) alone is a farce. They will certainly have forked out a very high 6-digit or even 7-digit sum for this. The money has to be recouped first. But they are all so poor at paying taxes, and we have to pay employees and blah blah blah
I've never noticed 😅 But never read anything there either. Start the game and that's it. But I'm not that much of an RTP vulture anyway and don't always look at it.
Compared to the Spielo, of course, it's great either way. But how quickly can you shoot up to a minimum of 20 cents without transferring, and without Bonus money, free spins and stuff like in the online casino?
Pat1991 wrote on September 11th, 2024 at 12:50 pm:
Doesn't change the fact that I have a very limited buck for the dreck. Even in the normal German casino there is 94% RTP
In the terrestrial casinos there are actually slots with 94% and even 96%.
However, anyone who uses this as an argument should do a bit more research
→ The taxation works much differently, which makes the whole thing possible and economical.
Of course, this is no consolation for the lower RTP at DE online slot casinos, but for the sake of completeness, such knowledge can be disclosed
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Doesn't change the fact that I have a very limited appetite for the dirt. Even a normal German casino offers 94% RTP
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I don't play in the stalls at all. If you burn your money there, it's your own fault for never landing a big hit.
Which German "normal casino", I assume you mean a casino, has 94%?
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NRW casinos on the slots. The RTP is even explicitly stated as such.
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I'm right there with you.
People are constantly complaining that there's nothing to be gained in the German casinos, but people are constantly depositing there again.
That's why I can't take any complaints along these lines seriously.
In the end, everyone can play where they like, but you shouldn't cry afterwards.
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Really? Never paid attention to it. I'll have a look next time.
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The 5.3% tax is one thing (annoying enough). But why more and more slots are being offered at 84% (!!!) does NOT justify this tax. 96% (original RTP) is the figure for many games. That's a whopping 12 percent that is simply deducted, more than double the tax! If that's not exploitation.
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with the number of players, they can probably make the slots 10% worse and the gambling will still continue...it will never get better in German casinos again
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The problem is, there are enough addicted or non-addicted regular depositors out there who don't give a damn if they have losses. There are enough people who have well-paid jobs, a large inheritance or their own company. There is no other explanation as to why German casinos still exist at all. In addition, there are players who don't care about the rules. As long as the casinos have enough income, there is no need to change anything. The fact that StarGames has become a premium sponsor of BVB (a major Champions League club) alone is a farce. They will certainly have forked out a very high 6-digit or even 7-digit sum for this. The money has to be recouped first. But they are all so poor at paying taxes, and we have to pay employees and blah blah blah
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I've never noticed 😅 But never read anything there either. Start the game and that's it. But I'm not that much of an RTP vulture anyway and don't always look at it.
Either it comes or it doesn't..
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The ambience is much more dignified, the other players are a slightly different kind of jerks, but still jerks.
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At the end of the day, it's the frequency that counts. Whether I Risk €50 once a month or every day
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I'd better not get into the habit...
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In the terrestrial casinos there are actually slots with 94% and even 96%.
However, anyone who uses this as an argument should do a bit more research
→ The taxation works much differently, which makes the whole thing possible and economical.
Of course, this is no consolation for the lower RTP at DE online slot casinos, but for the sake of completeness, such knowledge can be disclosed
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