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Online Casinos in general: Slots with good RTP German casinos

Topic created on 06th Sep. 2024 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 28 | Views: 2,318
Darkresu85
Rookie
Hey guys does anyone have their own list or know which slots have a good RTP in German casinos? I'm always trying out new games, but most of the time I can't find any with a good RTP. For example 90% and higher. With the exception of Lapalingo, where a few slots have a high RTP, but you have to give up some of your win. Thanks in advance. Lg

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Pneumatic
Top Member
I have nothing to do with German casinos and I'm coming here with my half-knowledge.

But I would almost say that your search will be relatively hopeless 😏

Because good - RTP - German doesn't quite fit together in one sentence

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Max-Power
Experienced
I don't know if this is a typo, but Wunderino.de shows an RTP of over 96% for "Free Reelin Joker" and "Fire Joker Freeze".
"Chronos Joker" even has 96.54%
And there is no extra tax deduction there.

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L****z
At LeoVegas, Pragmatic Play slots have 94-96% RTP without tax deduction.

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Max-Power
Experienced
I had another look at a few games at Wunderino, so far I've only found a few at Play'n'go where the RTP value is in the mid 90s. But many of the provider's games (the more popular ones?) have an RTP of only 84.x%.

At Wunderino, Play'n'go is currently "The game Provider of the week", no idea if that's why they have increased the RTP of some of their games?!?!!?

Currently the highest RTP I have discovered:
Cash Pump 96,86%

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Pat1991
Top Member
Not here:

Pat1991

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Max-Power
Experienced
I only play on my laptop. I've now tried it on my cell phone and it also shows 96.86%.
Very strange.

Max-Power

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Pat1991
Top Member
At Wunderino for me too:

Pat1991

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gambler67
Experienced
Since the weekend you can also bury Novoline as the RTP has been downgraded from 90 to 88% for almost All Slots - there aren't many casinos left

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OlliMei
Visitor
Yes, since the German license has been available, I pay a lot of attention to the rtps. With many sites, they are downgraded from month to month. For me, the only place left to play is Lapalingo. I don't understand why the others exploit the players so much.

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Stromberg
Legend

OlliMei wrote on 09.09.2024 at 15:58: Yes, since the German license has been available, I pay a lot of attention to the rtps. With many sites they are downgraded from month to month. For me, the only place left to play is Lapalingo. I don't understand why the others exploit the players so much.

I also prefer Lapalingo.de or other sites with normal rtp and tax per spin or tax on wins.

However, even they are lower than international sites with their 94.xx versions.
You just have the feeling that you can win something there, but in purely mathematical terms there probably isn't much difference in the end...

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DIE-SPIELBANK_de
Rookie
OlliMei wrote on 09.09.2024 at 15:58: Yes, since the German license has been available, I pay a lot of attention to the rtps. With many sites they are downgraded from month to month. For me, the only place left to play is Lapalingo. I don't understand why the others exploit the players so much.

Contrary to what you might think, it has nothing to do with exploitation. The RTP is usually lower because, unlike foreign casinos, there is a tax (5.3%). This means that the RTP is at least 5.3% lower, because otherwise the casino would pay extra on every spin. At least this is currently the most common procedure used by German platforms, because the platform systems can map this technically well and transparently.

The RTP of the respective slot (89% / 90% / 87% / 96%) is decided by the game manufacturer. They offer different versions that you can use as a platform Provider (provided the RTP version has been approved by the GGL, of course)

Lapalingo calculates the tax differently or in the background. This results in a higher RTP, but the tax is still deducted in the background with every spin. You can ask Lapalingo for details if you want to know more

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DieWunderharke5000
Top Member
However, it is also wrong to put the blame solely on GGL. Of course, the 5.3% drop would just about justify an RTP of 90. But why do some German casinos offer slots at 84%? What justifies this further 6% deduction compared to other countries?

6% RTP difference is WORLDS. And even more so 12% in an international comparison.

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Pat1991
Top Member
DieWunderharke5000 wrote on 11.09.2024 at 11:24 am: However, it is also wrong to pass the buck to GGL alone. Of course, the 5.3% drop would just about justify an RTP of 90. But why do some German casinos offer slots at 84%? What justifies this further 6% deduction compared to other countries?

6% RTP difference is WORLDS. And even more so 12% in an international comparison.


Correct.

spinning 5000 times on 20 cents with 90% RTP: an average loss of EUR 100.

5000 spins with 84% RTP: an average loss of 160 EUR.

That's a very relaxed 60% more.

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moralischverwerflich
Expert

Pat1991 wrote on September 11, 2024 at 11:35 am:
Correct.

5000 spins on 20 cents with 90% RTP: 100 EUR loss on average.

5000 spins with 84% RTP: On average 160 EUR loss.

Makes a very relaxed 60% more.

DieWunderharke5000 wrote on 11.09.2024 at 11:24 am: However, it is also wrong to pass the buck to GGL alone. Of course, the 5.3% drop would just about justify an RTP of 90. But why do some German casinos offer slots at 84%? What justifies this further 6% deduction compared to other countries?

6% RTP difference is WORLDS. And even more so 12% in an international comparison.


Even if I don't use the German booths and don't want to leave a good hair on their heads.... But how else are they supposed to be profitable? That's only possible with lower payout ratios. There are far fewer games in German casinos. Personnel costs are significantly higher in Germany. Taxes are highest in Germany.

You can't compare international casinos with German casinos.
In international casinos, people can Deposit as much as they want. In German casinos, it is limited to €1000, and that applies across all casinos.
So how can a German casino with a fraction of depositors and significantly higher operating costs offer the same RTP or anywhere near the same RTP compared to an international casino?
Just think about it for a moment.

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