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Online Casinos in general: SEPA cancel for illegal online casino (Page 3)

Topic created on 04th Aug. 2019 | Page: 3 of 3 | Answers: 29 | Views: 11,685
wettibernd
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

6th Aug. 2019, at 11:54 am CEST#21
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@Ichbins2018

That goes with PayPal back posting the last few weeks is known to me, I know a few people who have done that and if then a lawyer or Debt collection has written this pointed to the German legal situation and threatened with a criminal complaint and never heard anything - except that they now no longer have a Paypal account.

But I don't know any judgement in which a bank, a credit card company or a casino was sentenced to repay the amounts. So except the few euros from Paypal of the last weeks is apparently nothing to do.

And only times to the contribution of "winner", he is right, you are here on a forum in which people exchange themselves gladly in OC `s play and would like to exchange themselves over it which straight goes off there, which casino is good and which just not so. And the people here don't care if what they are doing is 100% legal or not. But if you are an absolute opponent of this kind of gambling then this is really not the right place for you.

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Ichbins2018
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

6th Aug. 2019, at 01:04 pm CEST#22
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May I ask which problem you have with me @wettibernd
it tastes you possibly not that I point to our legal situation, react to half-knowledge with knowledge?

Have you noticed that I have never opened its own thread, but only answer questions from thread creators or other questions (to the best of my knowledge and belief)?

And have you noticed that here in the forum is not only about gaming ... that there are also sub-forums which are indirectly related to the game e.g. "Gaming addiction" ?

Can it be that you like to fantasize, or where your assumption / thesis that I am an opponent of this type of gaming and this platform is not right for me?
And who wants to determine what is right for me ... a gamer?

And last but not least, do you need someone to hold your hand @wettibernd, to tell you what to do or not to do?

Well I do not !!!

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DavidMilan
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

31st Aug. 2021, at 07:56 pm CEST#23
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Since the topic is topical again.
Is it allowed to have deposits in the online casino reversed by the bank without consequences?



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btssultan
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

31st Aug. 2021, at 11:46 pm CEST#24
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https://www.gamblejoe.com/news/rueckbuchung-kreditkarte-online-gluecksspieleinsaetze/

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Ollid3
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

1st Sep. 2021, at 12:29 am CEST#25
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Winner wrote on 08/05/2019 21:39

I don't have time to be on forums that often. But for the love of God, you are just wrong here on GAMBLEjoe.

There are but enough Gambling addiction forums where each other is built up, with the chargebacks will be all good the 12 steps and built each other up, come reduce the SChulden, it is because of the evil Gauselmann and the evil unregulated casinos etc usf.... me come the tears. I have also lost way too much, but gambling debts are debts of honor and an adult must stand by his actions.
Join in is meant in a positive way. But one who has stopped smoking is also not in another smokers forum and tries to teach other smokers...

Why is it wrong?
And your statement I find beside the point.
There are ways to get his money back. Why is there that ?
And why is that taken up ?
One could discuss about it

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Ollid3
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1st Sep. 2021, at 12:37 am CEST#27
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wettibernd wrote on 08/06/2019 at 11:54 am: @Ichbins2018

That goes with PayPal back posting the last few weeks is known to me, know myself a few people who have done that and if then a lawyer or Debt collection has written this pointed to the German Rechtsstlage and threatened with a criminal complaint and never heard anything - except that they now no longer have a Paypal account.

But I don't know any judgement in which a bank, a credit card company or a casino was sentenced to repay the amounts. So except the few euros from Paypal of the last weeks is apparently nothing to do.

And only times to the contribution of "winner", he is right, you are here on a forum in which people exchange themselves gladly in OC `s play and would like to exchange themselves over it which straight goes off there, which casino is good and which just not so. And the people here don't care if what they are doing is 100% legal or not. But if you are an absolute opponent of this kind of gambling then this is really not the right place for you.

So if I have understood it correctly, there is even a separate thread here about the fact that there are court rulings.
And lawyers deal with it.

Apart from that... who gets his money back is demonized here.
At the same time, people complain that all OCs do nothing more
I have that too. And also all recognize that it runs since the 1.7 so.

Who gets his money back no matter why should not be stoned here.
Can yes everyone decide for themselves whether he can be fooled further or diligently pays in.





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evopower140
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

1st Sep. 2021, at 09:09 am CEST#28
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Well that's true that from 01.07.2021 it does not run so properly

But get his money back is also not quite ok

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upola
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

1st Sep. 2021, at 09:28 am CEST#29
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There were enough chatterers here but the Behautet, that the lawyer has told them that they get 100% of their money back.
From the users you have heard nothing more since then.
So you can tell a lot.

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Ichbins2018
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1st Sep. 2021, at 11:28 am CEST#30
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There are a lot of lawyers dealing with this issue (I guess they represent several thousand clients by now) and not just since yesterday, but for years.


Whether they also have success?
Some years ago there was a hyphe and some have specialized (to say it casually) money back.
Most are still active in this "area" - and would certainly not be, they would have no success to show or no success.


Most of them (especially in case of "success") negotiate settlements and silence.
However there are also ever more courts, which converted that which the gambling interstate contract gives.


Whether the effort is worthwhile (usually after a very long fight) is but on another sheet (apart from comparisons).
Many Online Casinos consist of a complicated construct, are almost not tangible - and even with a legally binding judgment you will be difficult to get your money or you have to pull out all the stops, - and not even then it is certain whether you will ever see your money (disputed).
The forced administration or threat of a domain (e.g. as happened with Mr Green), is probably the most effective means.
On the one hand to stop their license-less offer in Germany, but also to move "the nice gentlemen/ladies" to give in as far as "reimbursement" is concerned.


Apart from that you have to inform yourself very exactly how to proceed, otherwise no chance.
Underestimating the other side would be really stupid, because "they" will also pull out all the stops.


And no I am anything but a supporter of chargeback, but as a former player I can still understand "those".
And basically they don't do anything else like most here, chase money.

Edit: You are ill informed @upula.

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upola
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

1st Sep. 2021, at 12:54 pm CEST#31
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 01/09/2021 at 11:28 AM




Edit: You are ill informed @upula.

Ok,if you say so it will probably be true.

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