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Online Casinos in general: SEPA cancel for illegal online casino (Page 2)

Topic created on 04th Aug. 2019 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 29 | Views: 11,626
Ichbins2018
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

5th Aug. 2019, at 10:30 am CEST#11
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TheGoldenDwarf wrote on 08/04/2019 at 7:52 pm
Yes thanks for the reply. That with the SH license is known to me, there one sees yes also constantly advertisement
on TV, Wunderino and now Hyperino, no idea who else has a SH - license, that is also not
important for me. (do not live in SH anyway)

Clearly, thus are exactly considered ALL OC's without SH license in Germany illegal that is the casinos
but also known and I wonder which OC then accepts a SEPA direct debit to play then
to play with the collected amount, direct debits are known to be easy to undo again
and therefore hardly an OC nor a bank would accept a payment by direct debit?
Which bank would honor a direct debit from an OC, knowing that it can come to this
that the bank must stand then for the amount straight ?
And that would be fraud, but on the part of the player

I have not dealt with this chargeback as you call it but I think nevertheless
that it should have as good as no success, if the whole method would and thousands over this
Way to recover their invested capital ?

I know also this case where one once its invested sum again received
but I mean that will certainly be one of the few exceptions - and remain

Logically that - where money is to be fetched - always a lot of lawyers/law firms rush on it
see e.g. the whole Abmahnwesen...has lost here nix, but is nevertheless also
scandalous, I think ...


I am sure that Chargeback was very successful for many players!
It has worked best when a player has deposited via PayPay -that would be by direct debit.
Without big TamTam you can / could (due to illegal play) the gambled money of the last 8 weeks back.
Paypal also had no legal handle, precisely because transactions in OC's are prohibited according to gambling treaty.
The same applies of course to any bank or savings bank...

@Wettibernd,
if it had been only isolated chargebacks, PayPal would hardly have withdrawn (for the most part) from this business.
Secondly...here at GJ almost 100% everything revolves around gambling - so what do you expect GJ to open a thread here where users report a successful chargeback that may even support?

For facts in this regard, you just have to think outside the box a bit or googling on sites that deal with this.

It is important to know that if you play illegally, you have no legal handle for anything,
if it comes down to it, not even on a payout.
Incidentally, most casinos in their terms and conditions...well if there are any users here who take these terms and conditions seriously

Next, probably the drug dealers on Germany's streets also have their own terms and conditions...would then be about the same as with the illegal OC
Junky's complain in court because they got no substance or only the worst truth, and Mr. Dealer because Mr. Junky once again has not paid his substance.




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Jojuaax3
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

5th Aug. 2019, at 11:12 am CEST#12
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 08/05/2019 at 10:30 AM
I'm sure the chargeback was very successful for many players!
It worked best when a player deposited via PayPay -that would be by direct debit.
Without big TamTam you can / could (due to illegal play) the gambled money of the last 8 weeks back.
Paypal also had no legal handle, precisely because transactions in OC's are prohibited according to gambling treaty.
The same applies of course to any bank or savings bank...

@Wettibernd,
if it had been only isolated chargebacks, PayPal would hardly have withdrawn (for the most part) from this business.
Secondly...here at GJ almost 100% everything revolves around gambling - so what do you expect GJ to open a thread here where users report a successful chargeback that may even support?

For facts in this regard, you just have to think outside the box a little bit or googling on pages that deal with this.

It is important to know that if you play illegally, that you have no legal handle for anything,
if it comes down to it, not even on a payout.
Incidentally, most casinos in their terms and conditions...well if there are any users here who take these terms and conditions seriously

Next, probably the drug dealers on Germany's streets also have their own terms and conditions...would then be about the same as with the illegal OC
Junky's complain in court because they got no substance or only the worst truth, and Mr. Dealer because Mr. Junky once again has not paid his substance.





Complete bullshit
Chargbackers are never successful. Only from your point of view. Sure the players for the moment get their deposits - commission of the chargbacker back
BUT
Afterwards the dark awakening follows for many. Reminders of the OCs or service providers (Paypal/Netteller/Skrill) fly into the house, that you want to have the confirmed payments back. Because as soon as you book back money you have "debts".
Casinos that hold a valid license in the EU have a legal basis in the country on which they can sue the money. In the EU, the claiming applies across countries

This Chargbacker work only if you play in Curacao casinos. But who does that....

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Ichbins2018
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

5th Aug. 2019, at 11:59 am CEST#13
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Well...

I say it only reluctantly, but your contribution is also complete nonsense, especially you bristles only so with half-knowledge around you.
The upper is not meant badly, but still suggest that you put a few euros, certainly you have what zocken in Online Casinos concerns more idea than I, what Chargeback concerns but certainly not.

Good luck!

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Anonym

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5th Aug. 2019, at 12:47 pm CEST#14
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Jojuaax3 wrote on 08/05/2019 11:12 AM
Complete bullshit
Chargbackers are never successful. Only from your point of view. Sure the players for the moment get their deposits - commission of the chargbacker back
BUT
Afterwards the dark awakening follows for many. Reminders of the OCs or service providers (Paypal/Netteller/Skrill) fly into the house, that you want to have the confirmed payments back. Because as soon as you book back money you have "debts".
Casinos that hold a valid license in the EU have a legal basis in the country on which they can sue the money. In the EU, the claiming applies across countries

This Chargbacker work only if you play in Curacao casinos. But who does that....

It is very interesting what you give from you, especially your introduction has already a very polite note
I wouldn't call it bullshit what you say here, it is rather in the category "free of all senses".
Show me one MGA-OC that has sued here, don't even get me started on successful
It is still a gray area and the OCs know that very well, which is why there is no official appearance here nor any lawsuits. The EU law in this case does not really apply when it comes to the nitty gritty. The fact that you can still play is due to the failure of politics and a resulting non-existent regulation. A legal basis should then be rather fictitious but not at all real

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Anonym

SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

5th Aug. 2019, at 04:59 pm CEST#15
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 08/05/2019 at 10:30 AM
I'm sure the chargeback was very successful for many players!
It worked best when a player deposited via PayPay -that would be by direct debit.
Without big TamTam you can / could (due to illegal play) the gambled money of the last 8 weeks back.
Paypal also had no legal handle, precisely because transactions in OC's are prohibited according to gambling treaty.
The same applies of course to any bank or savings bank...

@Wettibernd,
if it had been only isolated chargebacks, PayPal would hardly have withdrawn (for the most part) from this business.
Secondly...here at GJ almost 100% everything revolves around gambling - so what do you expect GJ to open a thread here where users report a successful chargeback that may even support?

For facts in this regard, you just have to think outside the box a little bit or googling on pages that deal with this.

It is important to know that if you play illegally, that you have no legal handle for anything,
if it comes down to it, not even on a payout.
Incidentally, most casinos in their terms and conditions...well if there are any users here who take these terms and conditions seriously

Next, probably the drug dealers on Germany's streets also have their own terms and conditions...would then be about the same as with the illegal OC
Junky's complain in court because they got no substance or only the worst truth, and Mr. Dealer because Mr. Junky once again has not paid his substance.





Hmmm, ok . I don't have a PayPal account and I think that Pay Pal can take a few chargebacks
loosely tolerate can, accepts, because Peanuts for the. Strange to me, however, is that they consciously
take the Risk (have entered ?) to step here in advance knowing that evntl the
Money is not paid to PayPal. If I - or the player - has no account coverage at PayPal,
how high might be the accepted sum, which PayPal pays - yes without security - to the OC ? (paid...) They will never have accepted 500€ ?
And fraud of the player would be it nevertheless furthermore to contradict in the case of loss of the debit note
it is but an illegal transaction what the player thus also admits to know.
Is it known how much credit I got at Paypal for such a payment to an OC ?
The have then of course immediately closed the account if no payment came or the return debit note
and with e.g. 50 euro is not so wild. But e.g. 1000 € with 1000 people are then
already 1 million € ! Loss...for PayPal...
But if PayPal now more and more from this market withdraws is that probably too expensive for
the become. The payment defaults seem to have become too large
Either way, cheating on all sides

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Ichbins2018
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

5th Aug. 2019, at 05:24 pm CEST#16
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Everything you need to know about Chargeback you can read here @TheGoldenDwarf

Check it out!!!! PayPal waives money for online casino games ...
www.forum-gluecksspielsucht.de/forum/index.php?topic=2484.0



Here again what concerns the prohibition
https://www.rtl.de/cms/ovg-bestaetigt-verbot-unerlaubten-online-gluecksspiels-4367946.html


And here the latest
https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/der-kampf-gegen-illegales-online-gluecksspiel,RXzj32l?fbclid=IwAR3lMk_ptLzf_tZFTImYb7clQR1lTgmkXV6ybgODg8_sQ23tHlV-PBDxiQY

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Falko
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

5th Aug. 2019, at 05:50 pm CEST#17
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 08/05/2019 at 17:24: You can read everything worth knowing regarding Chargeback here @TheGoldenDwarf

Check it out!!!! PayPal waives money for online casino games ...
www.forum-gluecksspielsucht.de/forum/index.php?topic=2484.0



Here again what concerns the prohibition
https://www.rtl.de/cms/ovg-bestaetigt-verbot-unerlaubten-online-gluecksspiels-4367946.html


And here the latest
https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/der-kampf-gegen-illegales-online-gluecksspiel,RXzj32l?fbclid=IwAR3lMk_ptLzf_tZFTImYb7clQR1lTgmkXV6ybgODg8_sQ23tHlV-PBDxiQY

First link an interesting forum. is financed by the AOK. I just looked purely, there one can read very many fates, from people who have played themselves into the ruin.

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Anonym

SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

5th Aug. 2019, at 07:28 pm CEST#18
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Ui almost 8 Mille has PayPal there prefinanced, crazy
Time for the Danish system
It could be done, if you really wanted to
Thanks for the links

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Gewinner
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

5th Aug. 2019, at 09:39 pm CEST#19
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 08/05/2019 at 17:24: You can read everything worth knowing regarding Chargeback here @TheGoldenDwarf

Check it out!!!! PayPal waives money for online casino games ...
www.forum-gluecksspielsucht.de/forum/index.php?topic=2484.0



Here again what concerns the prohibition
https://www.rtl.de/cms/ovg-bestaetigt-verbot-unerlaubten-online-gluecksspiels-4367946.html


And here the latest
https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/der-kampf-gegen-illegales-online-gluecksspiel,RXzj32l?fbclid=IwAR3lMk_ptLzf_tZFTImYb7clQR1lTgmkXV6ybgODg8_sQ23tHlV-PBDxiQY

I don't have time to be on forums that often. But by all means: You are simply wrong here on GAMBLEjoe.

There are but enough Gambling addiction forums where each other is built up, with the Chargebacks everything is well the 12 steps and each other built up, come the SChulden reduce, it is because of the evil Gauselmann and the evil unregulated casinos etc usf.... I come the tears. I have also lost way too much, but gambling debts are debts of honor and an adult must stand by his actions.
Join in is meant in a positive way. But one who has stopped smoking is also not in another smokers forum and tries to teach other smokers...

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Ichbins2018
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SEPA cancel for illegal online casino

6th Aug. 2019, at 10:26 am CEST#20
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Winner wrote on 08/05/2019 21:39

I don't have time to be on forums that often. But for the love of God, you are just wrong here on GAMBLEjoe.

There are but enough Gambling addiction forums where each other is built up, with the chargebacks will be all good the 12 steps and built each other up, come reduce the SChulden, it is because of the evil Gauselmann and the evil unregulated casinos etc usf.... me come the tears. I have also lost way too much, but gambling debts are debts of honor and an adult must stand by his actions.
Join in is meant in a positive way. But one who has stopped smoking is not in another smokers forum and tries to teach other smokers...

A bouncer by profession?

Then something about me,
am I a chargeback advocate?

Very clear NO and especially not if a player wants to charge back his gambled money.
Illegal or legal does not matter for me...he or she wanted to play, that Risk is well known.

Do I write posts here to point people to their addiction, they possibly helping to stand aside?
Also a clear NO...I personally am not interested in the bean!

Do I need encouraging words because I have an addiction problem? You apparently yes (see your input posts) I definitely not!

Why am I here?
In the first instance to look at the development of the online gambling market.
Secondly: to see with what perfidious methods the GI (online) brains F...... .
Thirdly: think of something, in any case I am not here for you!

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