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Online Casinos in general: RTP 85% Where to now?

Topic created on 08th Jun. 2021 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 25 | Views: 7,286
ErikS
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RTP 85% Where to now?

8th Jun. 2021, at 02:39 am CEST#1
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Woohoo

now that the next drumbeat is pending: In which casinos can you still play at all? Which country licenses with the usual RTP are there still, which covers EU law?

Or are the providers all converting? Then that was it for me in any case.

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BinGOLDiG
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RTP 85% Where to now?

8th Jun. 2021, at 07:03 am CEST#2
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Gambling house maybe?!

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Goeki72
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RTP 85% Where to now?

8th Jun. 2021, at 07:16 am CEST#3
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Sports betting or "alternative" licenses.

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aXxEsS
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RTP 85% Where to now?

8th Jun. 2021, at 07:29 am CEST#4
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I am not sure if everyone here understands the meaning of RTP. For example, an RTP of 96% does not mean that if you Deposit 100 euros you will get 96 euros back. The RTP is calculated using simulations (where a program simulates millions or more spins) so that you end up with the RTP value. Thus, it is completely normal that a game can also sometimes make 1000+ spins with a player without significant win. I read that again and again, that players assume with a high RTP value, that you automatically win more at the same time. Unfortunately, this is not the case and you should not be blinded by this in the first place.

And gaming arcades are definitely not an alternative, because the RTP is much lower there.

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Klempo77
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RTP 85% Where to now?

8th Jun. 2021, at 07:31 am CEST#5
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As Christian said in his article, pay attention to wording. Casinos can, but do not have to lower RTP.
In the same article is also the big casinos have already said that the, if at all, only little turn to RTP.
All have concerns that customers do not migrate, which is no wonder.
I myself would never play in a casino where I already know in advance that I lose.
MGA license or not, you can see in various threads that license does not matter. Casinos do what they want, harass players until it no longer goes, require very sensitive data, payout simply keep, and, and, and...

I play since last year in a few casinos with "evil" Curaçao license, have had no problems so far. But it was not thousands of euros, rather a few hundred. I still do not dare to play anything big. But there I can play for my money aufjedenfall longer than in casinos with MGA license

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ErikS
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RTP 85% Where to now?

8th Jun. 2021, at 03:41 pm CEST#6
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Klempo77 wrote on 08/06/2021 at 07:31: As Christian said in his article, pay attention to wording. Casinos may or may not lower RTP.

RTP value is very important in any case. And you don't automatically lose if it is further down (short term maybe even medium term). But it's all about the average. At that time I didn't care if I threw something into the machine on the spot in the small gambling hall. But not anymore. I also convert much more as a lowroller
I hadn't played for half a year because Germany is turning hollow again. And with 85% I'm out again.

Interesting is just this: "Casinos take all your money and are rich" vs. "We have to lower the RTP by >10% because we have no money"

Bruuuhhh


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Anonym

RTP 85% Where to now?

8th Jun. 2021, at 05:43 pm CEST#7
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aXxEsS wrote on 08.06.2021 at 07:29: I'm not sure if everyone here understands the meaning of RTP. For example, an RTP of 96% does not mean that if you Deposit 100 euros you will get back 96 euros accordingly. The RTP is calculated using simulations (where a program simulates millions or more spins) so that you end up with the RTP value. Thus, it is completely normal that a game can also sometimes make 1000+ spins with a player without significant win. I read this again and again, that players assume with a high RTP value that you automatically win more at the same time. Unfortunately, this is not the case and you should not be blinded by this in the first place.

And gaming arcades are definitely not an alternative, because the RTP is much lower there.

Well written, but still a small addition.

In the gambling house there is no RTP, but an AQ (payout ratio). It is not a translation
The AQ at Slot machines must be fulfilled within a certain period of time. Whether this is 24 hours or even years is not publicly communicated.

To the initial question, where one can still play...
There are numerous casinos with a license recognized by the EU e.g. MGA license. You can find the license on all casino pages, usually at the bottom. If you click on it, you will also see the casino group and the authority that stands by you in case of conflict.

Sites with restrictions like Wheelz, Caxino, Wildz or Pokerstars, Partypoker, bwin usually have a decent RTP of around 95%, depending on the slot and provider.

At 4Stars, Sunpura, Pocket Play, Wazamba, PinoCasino, CashiMashi, Spinurai, Rant, Praise, Winota, Duxcasino, BoomCasino, Megaslot, Vulkan, CasinoDays, LuckyDays, Platincasino, LVBet, EnergyCasino, Slotwolf and some other casinos you can play WITHOUT restrictions.
But please note that firstly, not all of these casinos have an MGA license and secondly, they do not always have the best RTP

Most of these casinos offer either a demo mode or generally an "info table" where you can see the RTP without registering first

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ErikS
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RTP 85% Where to now?

8th Jun. 2021, at 05:50 pm CEST#8
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Royal777 wrote on 08/06/2021 at 17:43

There are numerous casinos with a license that are recognized by the EU e.g. MGA license. You can find the license on all casino pages, usually they are at the bottom. If you click on it, you will also see the casino group and the authority that stands by you in case of conflict.

MGA is Malta. And that's where the RTP reduction comes from

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n****4

RTP 85% Where to now?

8th Jun. 2021, at 06:17 pm CEST#9
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ErikS wrote on 08.06.2021 at 02:39: Huhu

after now the next drumbeat is pending: In which casinos can you play now at all? Which country licenses with the usual RTP are there still, which covers EU law?

Or are the providers all converting? Then that was it for me in any case.

Feels the rtp was always so! Can not remember wins that were higher than 100x.

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harlekin
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RTP 85% Where to now?

8th Jun. 2021, at 08:33 pm CEST#10
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so at Videoslots and mrvegas they have already lowered the play n go RTP to 91%

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