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Money gambling and back posting ?
Even if it is legally OK, a player of legal age should at least
at least a touch of pride honor and especially money have.
Some remarks in the past against the team GJ I also find totally inappropriate
oh well, someone has made Gj big because he is one of 3000 Gj makes 100K win a month
who lives behind the moon and appreciates such a great Gambler page without Nervige Pop ups advertising ect. (except AFF.LINKS)
Good luck to true Gambler and a thank you to the WHOLE GJ Team
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Hello Berserkertobi,
sorry, but what you write is really completely off.
"Get out of the victim role....etc." blame the casino etc. That's not what it's about. It's about the fact that Gambling addiction is a chronic disease and that I, as a sick gambler, cannot control what I do when it comes to gambling.
Just understand this please. If you can control your gambling, then I am happy for you. I and many thousands of other sick gamblers can't!
In all addictions, the suicide rate is highest among gambling addicts. So I ask you to take the subject of gambling addiction a little more seriously and simply understand that as a sick person you are not in a position to control your gambling behavior even in the slightest.
Thank you.
I know that this topic is not welcome in an online casino forum. But at the end of the day this is what it's all about. And exactly for this reason I will sue!
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NOVONATOR wrote on 08.09.2018 at 16:49: Some users really have a problem with such Post's and mass of schwachsin
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Money Verzocken and back posting ?
Even if it is legally OK, a player of legal age should at least
at least a touch of pride honor and especially money have.
Some remarks in the past against the team GJ I also find totally inappropriate
ah well, someone has made Gj big because he is one of 3000 Gj makes 100K win a month
who lives behind the moon and appreciates such a great Gambler page without Nervige Pop ups advertising ect. (except AFF.LINKS)
Good luck to true Gambler and a thank you to the whole GJ Team
Also to you again, since you apparently can not read so well, I have myself
explicitly excluded!
otherwise I can hardly understand your text, but it does not matter
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no, I am not looking for someone to blame, as it is not about blame in any way.
Your explanations in all honor but I have dealt so intensively with the disease of Gambling addiction over several decades that I do not need teachings, tips, etc.. Not even if they are meant nicely.
I am completely ruined financially and if there is a possibility to get my gambled money refunded, because banks and payment providers indirectly support illegal gambling, then I will take it!
And I really hope that I will not be the only one who goes this way
Greetings,
Matze
Yes, you are doing it again.
Yes, YOU are completely ruined financially because YOU made sure of it.
Even if there were no Online Casinos, you would still have ruined yourself financially and gambled away somewhere else.
So let bygones be bygones and do everything you can to learn from this time.
With this attitude you will not get far. Let go of your resentment towards casinos and let go of your resentment towards yourself. Now you can start to do everything right and go to a new better future.
Suing someone now because you didn't come to this realization earlier is anything but taking personal responsibility.
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Matz777 wrote on 08/09/2018 at 16:50
Hello Berserkertobi,
sorry, but what you write is really completely off the mark.
"Get out of the victim role....etc." blame the casino etc. That's not what it's about. It's about the fact that Gambling addiction is a chronic disease and that I, as a sick gambler, cannot control what I do when it comes to gambling.
Just understand this please. If you can control your gambling, then I am happy for you. I and many thousands of other sick gamblers can't!
In all addictions, the suicide rate is highest among gambling addicts. So I ask you to take the subject of gambling addiction a little more seriously and simply understand that as a sick person you are not in a position to control your gambling behavior even in the slightest.
Thank you.
I know that this topic is not welcome in an online casino forum. But at the end of the day this is what it's all about. And exactly for this reason I will sue!
You admit that you are addicted, giving money to a gambling addict is like giving alcohol to an alcoholic, who says that gambling addiction is a disease. Do you seriously believe that if someone loses his fortune in the gambling house that he will get it back.They are then stamped when they get their money back.They will probably get a counselor.Since the gambling addiction does not disappear like a cold.How do you know that the casinos live only from gambling addicts.How many there are and so on.I wish you that you get out of it again.
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Matz777 wrote on 08/09/2018 at 16:50
Hello Berserkertobi,
sorry, but what you write is really completely off the mark.
"Get out of the victim role....etc." blame the casino etc. That's not what it's about. It's about the fact that Gambling addiction is a chronic disease and that I, as a sick gambler, cannot control what I do when it comes to gambling.
Who says that I am not addicted to gambling? I have had a problem or two in the past because of my gambling. I have also been in therapy, where some left-wing green-suited social pedagogues, psychologists and other government-paid good-for-nothings pushed me into the victim role. Did that help me? NO, on the contrary, it got worse!!! The recidivism rate is well over 50% or even 80% if I am not mistaken.
I have been playing for more than 3 years always exactly 300€ a month. I pay in 150€ every 2 weeks in a disciplined way and have my fun. Most of the time I lose, sometimes I win. But I also started my own business 3 years ago and earn 6.000€ a month with my business, so I can well afford the 300 taken a month. I am doing great and I have cured myself without a psychologist. Yes cured (what psychologists say is impossible)! How did I do that? By breaking out of my victim role and taking personal responsibility and learning discipline. You were all screwed up by the media and the 68 generation, believe me! Me too in the past but it is my life and I have taken it back. You can do that too!
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Random wrote on 08/09/2018 at 17:02
Yes, you are doing it again.
Yes, YOU are completely ruined financially because YOU made sure of it.
Even if there were no Online Casinos you would still have wrecked yourself financially just the same and gambled away somewhere else.
So let bygones be bygones and do everything you can to learn from this time.
With this attitude you will not get far. Let go of your resentment towards casinos and let go of your resentment towards yourself. Now you can start to do everything right and go to a new better future.
Suing someone now because you didn't come to this realization earlier is anything but taking personal responsibility.
No, I could not have gambled the money in these proportions elsewhere, because I have been locked in state casinos for years and the halls are uninteresting for me.
Online it is made much too easy for a player and in front of the computer in familiar surroundings the control is even faster to lose than elsewhere.
Online casinos could not exist without addicted people! Just let it sink in and think about it. And that there are many millions of sick players worldwide, shows alone the variety of online casinos.
Maybe you should not only post the winning videos, but also the videos in which people sit crying in front of their computer, are about to lie to themselves and their environment, become criminals to be able to gamble, take their own lives.... etc. etc.
It's all about the kick. Adrenalin and dopamine. That's what it's about and nothing else!
In the end, however, most users here know that and the players from this forum who are not addicted to gambling are guaranteed to be outnumbered!
Would be nice if that would change. Because who is so naive and believes he would land sometime the really big coup, he is in error. And even if it comes (I had it several times), it is soon gambled away again.
I do not want to name a sum, but I have not only gambled away a house !
Take care of yourself, get help when you realize that you can't control it anymore. Whenever you have a balance that you wanted to withdraw but didn't and then got angry, it is already a clear loss of control. Completely independent of the amount!
In this sense, stay away from the moronic gambling and take care of the real life. Because this certainly does not take place in a casino.
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8th Sep. 2018, at 05:36 pm CEST#58
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berserkertobi wrote on 08/09/2018 at 17:17
Who says I'm not a gambling addict? I've also had a problem or two in the past because of my gambling. I've also been in therapy where some left-wing green-suited social pedagogues, psychologists and other government-paid good-for-nothings pushed me into the victim role. Did that help me? NO, on the contrary, it got worse!!! The recidivism rate is well over 50% or even 80% if I am not mistaken.
I have been playing for more than 3 years always exactly 300€ a month. I pay in 150€ every 2 weeks in a disciplined way and have my fun. Most of the time I lose, sometimes I win. But I also started my own business 3 years ago and earn 6.000€ a month with my business, so I can well afford the 300 taken a month. I am doing great and I have cured myself without a psychologist. Yes cured (what psychologists say is impossible)! How did I do that? By breaking out of my victim role and taking personal responsibility and learning discipline. You were all screwed up by the media and the 68 generation, believe me! Me too in the past but it is my life and I have taken it back. You can do that too!
Oh, a controlled gambler. Then hats off to you, because you are probably one among 100,000 addicts who can play in a controlled way
Too bad your therapy didn't work. Mine was good and I'm glad I took that step
The high relapse rate is clear to me and clearly shows how strong this addiction is. No one says it's easy to stop, but the first steps have been taken. I hope I can hang in there.
I will definitely not try to play in a controlled way, because I can't do that. But if it works for you, it's all good......
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berserkertobi wrote on 08/09/2018 at 16:39: I watched the documentary and I'm honestly very skeptical that posting back would be without consequences. Or let's put it this way: I even hope that everyone who chargebacks his money will face all negative consequences! Why do I write like this?
1. You are all grown men and women. Grow up and take responsibility for your actions! Gambling is omnipresent. Don't blame the Online Casinos if you overdo it, blame yourselves! Come out of your victim role and become self-confident and independent! And let's be honest. If you hadn't gambled away your money in "illegal" online casinos, most of you would have gambled it away in Papa Staat's casino or somewhere else.
2. Don't call for Papa State all the time. If you behave like a child, you don't have to be surprised when "Papa" takes away your freedom. You don't give your freedom to a good father, but to a father who mistreats, abuses and sells you. Why are online casinos worse than state casinos or gambling houses? Because they are private and do not finance the Antifa, like the casinos, hahah? The private ones are much more harmless for the German people than the worst capitalist online casinos could ever be.
3. Don't eat every shit that is served to you by the left-wing-green-smelling state media. You could see at Chemnitz in all clarity how trustworthy and serious the lying press researches or deliberately twists facts, you can see in the latest video of the "Vulgar Analysis".
I could also post back some money, but I would not do it even if it would remain 100% without consequences for me. Why? Because I don't want to be an effeminate victim child of the 68 generation, but because I want to be a free, independent man! No matter how you interpret it, it is simply morally wrong to charge back money for a service that is regulated and legal in almost all European countries, and which one has used oneself, voluntarily and quite consciously.
Thank you for your opinion, which I also share in some points, but may I ask what this topic now has to do with Chemnitz? Is it necessary to understand this?
berserkertobi wrote on 08/09/2018 at 17:17
Who says I'm not addicted to gambling? I've had a problem or two in the past because of my gambling. I've also been in therapy where some left-wing green-suited social pedagogues, psychologists and other government-paid good-for-nothings pushed me into the victim role. Did that help me? NO, on the contrary, it got worse!!! The recidivism rate is well over 50% or even 80% if I am not mistaken.
I have been playing for more than 3 years always exactly 300€ a month. I pay in 150€ every 2 weeks in a disciplined way and have my fun. Most of the time I lose, sometimes I win. But I also started my own business 3 years ago and earn 6.000€ a month with my business, so I can well afford the 300 taken a month. I am doing great and I have cured myself without a psychologist. Yes cured (what psychologists say is impossible)! How did I do that? By breaking out of my victim role and taking personal responsibility and learning discipline. You were all screwed up by the media and the 68 generation, believe me! Me too in the past but it is my life and I have taken it back. You can do that too!
Also with such statements please be careful. Of course, everyone is responsible for their own actions in the end and I'm happy for you (if it's true) that you got your Gambling addiction under control or "cured" it without outside help. But people are different and just because it worked for you doesn't mean that everyone will succeed with your personal method. Some do succeed with professional help - or at least try to - and there's nothing wrong with that. In the end, the only thing that matters is that you made it, not how. The offer of gambling addiction therapy exists, and if you are addicted to gambling and can't manage on your own, then you should at least try to take advantage of this help.
I see the whole thing like this: If you really want to charge back the money, you can't stop you from doing so. But if you do, then please seek professional help at the same time. Because if it comes to a court case, you should at least be able to prove that you are fighting against your addiction. Most people will not stop being addicted to gambling when the money is returned and will not stop gambling. What do you want to tell a judge (if there is a conviction after all) if you have charged back the money, then gambled it away in parts again, and then charged it back again?
I also don't think that those who want to book back the money do it for moral reasons, because the banks are so evil or because online gambling is "illegal", but rather out of self-inflicted or illness-induced money shortage in the most understandable case or just out of greed or due to Aluhut - because the casinos manipulate everything anyway but state gambling is so clean
To all those who plan to take the Risk of money back: Please do yourself a favor and draw for yourself also further consequences like actively fighting against your addiction. This will help you (if there are consequences in the end) and it can also help you personally. After all, you won't get anything out of the money that you've booked back if it's going to be reinvested in gambling anyway.
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Manfrede4 wrote on 08/09/2018 at 17:09
They admit they are addicted .Giving money to a gambling addict is like giving alcohol to an alcoholic.Who says that Gambling addiction is a disease. Then everyone can refer to it who has gambled away his fortune.Do you seriously believe that if someone loses his fortune in the gambling house that he gets it back.They are then stamped when they get their money back.They will probably get a counselor.Since the gambling addiction does not disappear like a cold.How do you know that the casinos live only from gambling addicts.How many there are and so on.I wish them that they get out of it again.
Hello Manfrede4,
after what you write, I advise you just to read something about the disease. Is very interesting and the Internet is full of it.
Contentwise I would not like to comment on your post out of politeness.
Nevertheless, thank you for the wishes.
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Money gambling and back posting ?
Even if it is legally OK, a player of legal age should at least
at least a touch of pride honor and especially money have.
Some remarks in the past against the team GJ I also find totally inappropriate
oh well, someone has made Gj big because he is one of 3000 Gj makes 100K win a month
who lives behind the moon and appreciates such a great Gambler page without Nervige Pop ups advertising ect. (except AFF.LINKS)
Good luck to true Gambler and a thank you to the WHOLE GJ Team
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Hello Berserkertobi,
sorry, but what you write is really completely off.
"Get out of the victim role....etc." blame the casino etc. That's not what it's about. It's about the fact that Gambling addiction is a chronic disease and that I, as a sick gambler, cannot control what I do when it comes to gambling.
Just understand this please. If you can control your gambling, then I am happy for you. I and many thousands of other sick gamblers can't!
In all addictions, the suicide rate is highest among gambling addicts. So I ask you to take the subject of gambling addiction a little more seriously and simply understand that as a sick person you are not in a position to control your gambling behavior even in the slightest.
Thank you.
I know that this topic is not welcome in an online casino forum. But at the end of the day this is what it's all about. And exactly for this reason I will sue!
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Also to you again, since you apparently can not read so well, I have myself
explicitly excluded!
otherwise I can hardly understand your text, but it does not matter
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Yes, you are doing it again.
Yes, YOU are completely ruined financially because YOU made sure of it.
Even if there were no Online Casinos, you would still have ruined yourself financially and gambled away somewhere else.
So let bygones be bygones and do everything you can to learn from this time.
With this attitude you will not get far. Let go of your resentment towards casinos and let go of your resentment towards yourself. Now you can start to do everything right and go to a new better future.
Suing someone now because you didn't come to this realization earlier is anything but taking personal responsibility.
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You admit that you are addicted, giving money to a gambling addict is like giving alcohol to an alcoholic, who says that gambling addiction is a disease. Do you seriously believe that if someone loses his fortune in the gambling house that he will get it back.They are then stamped when they get their money back.They will probably get a counselor.Since the gambling addiction does not disappear like a cold.How do you know that the casinos live only from gambling addicts.How many there are and so on.I wish you that you get out of it again.
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Who says that I am not addicted to gambling? I have had a problem or two in the past because of my gambling. I have also been in therapy, where some left-wing green-suited social pedagogues, psychologists and other government-paid good-for-nothings pushed me into the victim role. Did that help me? NO, on the contrary, it got worse!!! The recidivism rate is well over 50% or even 80% if I am not mistaken.
I have been playing for more than 3 years always exactly 300€ a month. I pay in 150€ every 2 weeks in a disciplined way and have my fun. Most of the time I lose, sometimes I win. But I also started my own business 3 years ago and earn 6.000€ a month with my business, so I can well afford the 300 taken a month. I am doing great and I have cured myself without a psychologist. Yes cured (what psychologists say is impossible)! How did I do that? By breaking out of my victim role and taking personal responsibility and learning discipline. You were all screwed up by the media and the 68 generation, believe me! Me too in the past but it is my life and I have taken it back. You can do that too!
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No, I could not have gambled the money in these proportions elsewhere, because I have been locked in state casinos for years and the halls are uninteresting for me.
Online it is made much too easy for a player and in front of the computer in familiar surroundings the control is even faster to lose than elsewhere.
Online casinos could not exist without addicted people! Just let it sink in and think about it. And that there are many millions of sick players worldwide, shows alone the variety of online casinos.
Maybe you should not only post the winning videos, but also the videos in which people sit crying in front of their computer, are about to lie to themselves and their environment, become criminals to be able to gamble, take their own lives.... etc. etc.
It's all about the kick. Adrenalin and dopamine. That's what it's about and nothing else!
In the end, however, most users here know that and the players from this forum who are not addicted to gambling are guaranteed to be outnumbered!
Would be nice if that would change. Because who is so naive and believes he would land sometime the really big coup, he is in error. And even if it comes (I had it several times), it is soon gambled away again.
I do not want to name a sum, but I have not only gambled away a house !
Take care of yourself, get help when you realize that you can't control it anymore. Whenever you have a balance that you wanted to withdraw but didn't and then got angry, it is already a clear loss of control. Completely independent of the amount!
In this sense, stay away from the moronic gambling and take care of the real life. Because this certainly does not take place in a casino.
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Oh, a controlled gambler. Then hats off to you, because you are probably one among 100,000 addicts who can play in a controlled way
Too bad your therapy didn't work. Mine was good and I'm glad I took that step
The high relapse rate is clear to me and clearly shows how strong this addiction is. No one says it's easy to stop, but the first steps have been taken. I hope I can hang in there.
I will definitely not try to play in a controlled way, because I can't do that. But if it works for you, it's all good......
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Thank you for your opinion, which I also share in some points, but may I ask what this topic now has to do with Chemnitz? Is it necessary to understand this?
Also with such statements please be careful. Of course, everyone is responsible for their own actions in the end and I'm happy for you (if it's true) that you got your Gambling addiction under control or "cured" it without outside help. But people are different and just because it worked for you doesn't mean that everyone will succeed with your personal method. Some do succeed with professional help - or at least try to - and there's nothing wrong with that. In the end, the only thing that matters is that you made it, not how. The offer of gambling addiction therapy exists, and if you are addicted to gambling and can't manage on your own, then you should at least try to take advantage of this help.
I see the whole thing like this: If you really want to charge back the money, you can't stop you from doing so. But if you do, then please seek professional help at the same time. Because if it comes to a court case, you should at least be able to prove that you are fighting against your addiction. Most people will not stop being addicted to gambling when the money is returned and will not stop gambling. What do you want to tell a judge (if there is a conviction after all) if you have charged back the money, then gambled it away in parts again, and then charged it back again?
I also don't think that those who want to book back the money do it for moral reasons, because the banks are so evil or because online gambling is "illegal", but rather out of self-inflicted or illness-induced money shortage in the most understandable case or just out of greed or due to Aluhut - because the casinos manipulate everything anyway but state gambling is so clean
To all those who plan to take the Risk of money back: Please do yourself a favor and draw for yourself also further consequences like actively fighting against your addiction. This will help you (if there are consequences in the end) and it can also help you personally. After all, you won't get anything out of the money that you've booked back if it's going to be reinvested in gambling anyway.
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Hello Manfrede4,
after what you write, I advise you just to read something about the disease. Is very interesting and the Internet is full of it.
Contentwise I would not like to comment on your post out of politeness.
Nevertheless, thank you for the wishes.
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