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Online Casinos in general: Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling (Page 20)

Topic created on 08th Sep. 2018 | Page: 20 of 25 | Answers: 248 | Views: 121,930
Klempo77
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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

27th Jun. 2019, at 10:15 pm CEST#191
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 06/27/2019 at 16:30
Right that's in their T&C's -and what happens if you don't comply?

Exactly...the same as with other payment service providers who do not comply with applicable laws "NIX".

Well, except if you get your money back (due to illegal transactions), then the whining also starts at PayPal.
They can whine as much as they want, but otherwise there are no consequences....

It's really only about chargeback. So you can not say "I did not know", and PayPal is not liable in this case
So, no chargeback possible

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Ichbins2018
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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

27th Jun. 2019, at 10:27 pm CEST#192
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PayPal collects by direct debit...Chargebacks possible at any time, at least the last 8 weeks.

Sued PayPal to date also no one (due to chargebacks in connection with online gambling) ....great AGB's

Especially if they violate German laws....

But what interests a player, actually nothing at all or ?

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Klempo77
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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

27th Jun. 2019, at 10:30 pm CEST#193
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True, but then you have claims from paypal. And by the fact that PayPal is not liable to prosecution, I think they then fight for their money

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Ichbins2018
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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

27th Jun. 2019, at 10:39 pm CEST#194
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No...apart from threats and reminders (from any collection Heinis) comes from them only hot air

As I said, if they were to win even one lawsuit against a chargeback, it would amount to a liberalization of online gambling in Germany

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Klempo77
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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

27th Jun. 2019, at 10:46 pm CEST#195
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There are already a few judgments against "Rückbucher", and I think with chargeback it's over
Small note to your contribution in other thread, it takes quite a long time until you get an appointment at court. So, with 10 hours there is nothing to create

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Ichbins2018
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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

27th Jun. 2019, at 10:47 pm CEST#196
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By the way...the chargeback nuddle has been going on for several years and no one seems to have any real interest in putting an end to it.

This is also true for the German courts, for the lawyers who have been dealing with this for years, for the Online Casinos, but also for the payment service providers.


With a few billion turnover per year, the former Deutsche Bank boss would probably also have said.... "Peanuts"

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Ichbins2018
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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

27th Jun. 2019, at 10:59 pm CEST#197
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Klempo77 wrote on 06/27/2019 22:46: There's already a few judgments against "Rückbucher", and I think with chargeback it's over
Small note to your post in other thread, it takes quite a long time until you get an appointment at court at all. So, with 10 hours there is nothing to create.

The 10 hours referred to the sorting...

apparently you have to offset your losses with your wins, so because of the prohibition of enrichment.

I would get there with 5 min.... hahahaha

Courts are (allegedly) dealing with this at the moment, but personally I don't know of any verdict for or against a player

Rather, what successful chargebacks of any lawyers concerns ...or banks that have given in

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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

28th Jun. 2019, at 01:55 am CEST#198
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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

28th Jun. 2019, at 09:16 am CEST#199
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Currently, Bild is pretty hot on the topic of online casinos.

I don't have Bild+ and can't read the articles. But as soon as the BILD raises a topic, there is something behind it. In the case of the casinos either lobbying the OC or it bangs soon.

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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

28th Jun. 2019, at 12:06 pm CEST#200
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I can read it and according to Bild at least people still get their money back. Today in the article it was about legality and there is also the wins from 5000 euros would have to be taxed.

The business with on-line Casinos booms. The providers of Internet gambling in Germany achieved an annual turnover of about 1.76 billion euros (estimate, as of 2017). Experts believe that the market could even generate more than 70 billion euros worldwide in 2025.
But is gambling on the Internet actually legal? And what dangers are there? BILD answers the most important questions about online casinos

Edit by Admin: Text unfortunately had to be removed, as this is a copyright infringement. The author has posted a complete paid article from Bild+ here. The source of the posted article can be found here: https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/spiele/spiele-news/spiele-news/online-casinos-ist-gluecksspiel-im-internet-eigentlich-legal-62914662,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html

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