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Online Casinos in general: Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling (Page 13)

Topic created on 08th Sep. 2018 | Page: 13 of 25 | Answers: 248 | Views: 123,046
Anonym

Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

14th Dec. 2018, at 06:46 pm CET#121
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Daniel wrote on 12/14/2018 at 5:02 pm

Yes, the first two sentences are already correct. But it's somehow still a difference if you constantly buy good goods for borrowed money or exchange it for "virtual thrills with the possibility of winning"...even if the end result is the same.
No, forbidding brings nothing Where I am actually of the opinion that OC's can be at present garnicht soooo forbidden, otherwise they would not be constantly with the football / boxing / in the TV. represented as a sponsor, but to this stands more in another place.
But better think through should one certain things already. Just that with the PayPal Rückgebuche: It can not be that one so simply, so fast and so much money can "pull" there without that one possesses which. You could set up a percentage credit line, calculated from the income of the user - but I'm also not a financial expert....

My question about organized crime in serious online gambling contained a slightly ironic note....If you say that everything is kosher in Malta then I believe you. You are probably much more involved than I am


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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

14th Dec. 2018, at 07:25 pm CET#122
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Cryptique wrote on 12/14/2018 at 18:46: My question about organized crime in serious online gambling contained a slightly ironic note....If you say that in Malta
everything goes kosher then I believe you. You are probably much more involved than I am

Yes, but you can also lose your money on the stock market, for virtual thrills. You can buy virtual goods or you can shoot your money out for prostitution (which is legal in Germany). All things where you have no object in the end. I think it should be up to everyone what they use their money for. Of course there are certain goods and services with which an increased Risk of addiction is associated and these simply belong to be regulated and the addicted customers should be offered a possibility to protect themselves from it.

Basically, this applies not only to gambling, but also to alcohol, tobacco, cannabis or whatever. Legalize everything, ban advertising, education and protection or self-exclusion procedures. It should also be the case with alcohol and cigarettes or other drugs that these should only be sold in licensed outlets (with the possibility of barring).

Certainly not everything will be kosher in Malta - just like in Germany. But it is not as lax and criminal as many think. As far as financial services are concerned (casino, stock exchange stuff, banks, especially when it comes to commercial banks), Malta is checked much more elaborately and annoyingly than in Germany - unless it has changed much since 2015. Getting a business account as a foreigner at the biggest Maltese bank (Bank of Valetta) is basically impossible. And if you are gambling or like us only gambling related, then you are already down from the start.

The really big fish among the really criminal ones always find ways and means through relationships - that is exactly the same in Malta as in Germany.

There is anyway much too much attention to money laundering and then checked. This is something that affects 1% of the players (if at all). Instead of focusing on stopping fraud like T&C's - which affects 99% of all players. It's getting more and more stupid in Europe and unfortunately it's not getting better ...

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termito78
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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

15th Dec. 2018, at 02:59 am CET#123
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Daniel wrote on 12/14/2018 at 7:25 pm
Yes, but you can also lose your money on the stock market, for virtual thrills. You can buy otherwise for virtual goods or you can shoot your money out for prostitution (which is legal in Germany). All things where you have no object in the end. I think it should be up to everyone what they use their money for. Of course there are certain goods and services with which an increased Risk of addiction is associated and these simply belong to be regulated and the addicted customers should be offered a possibility to protect themselves from it.

Basically, this applies not only to gambling, but also to alcohol, tobacco, cannabis or whatever. Legalize everything, ban advertising, education and protection or self-exclusion procedures. It should also be the case with alcohol and cigarettes or other drugs that they should only be sold in licensed outlets (with the possibility of barring).

Certainly not everything will be kosher in Malta - just like in Germany. But it is not as lax and criminal as many think. As far as financial services are concerned (casino, stock exchange stuff, banks, especially when it comes to commercial banks), Malta is checked much more elaborately and annoyingly than in Germany - unless it has changed much since 2015. Getting a business account as a foreigner at the biggest Maltese bank (Bank of Valetta) is basically impossible. And if you are gambling or like us only gambling related, then you are already down from the start.

The really big fish among the really criminal ones always find ways and means through relationships - that is exactly the same in Malta as in Germany.

There is anyway much too much attention to money laundering and then checked. This is something that affects 1% of the players (if at all). Instead of focusing on stopping fraud like T&C's - which affects 99% of all players. It's getting more and more stupid in Europe and unfortunately it's not getting better ...


You get money from Online Casinos, am I right? (Rhetorical question)

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existenzrippa
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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

15th Dec. 2018, at 03:19 am CET#124
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Yes, do you think Daniel does it for free? But of all the "casino sites" he is the fairest. He waives a lot of coal because he does not promote any casino. Thank you very much Daniel.

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Anonym

Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

16th Dec. 2018, at 10:43 am CET#125
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Well, I'll put it this way, the law is clear.

But anyone who gets his money back and then gambles it away again is a pathological addict and should seek help.

Online, however, you can very quickly really hit the shit and you know how quickly the money is won and gambled away again.

You can Deposit without Verification, so you are "let in" without any control. It is not even checked whether you are of age.

It should at least be so that one is immediately after registration first times before the deposit understandable pointed out what is possible to protect themselves. For example, set a limit, etc

Instead, you are sometimes immediately moved to deposit, with bold reference to the welcome bonus.

The casinos live from all the addicts!

I can understand that someone whose existence is about to break, his money back wants to claim and it can also for various reasons.

And what is that for Player protection in the MGA casinos? Is it technically so difficult to implement a general blocking database? There are casinos like sand on the beach!

If one locks in the mga licensed casino then re-register in another mga casino should not be possible.

With Schufa, for example, that's no problem and I get at Bank A nix, then it makes Bank B also not.

Evil tongues could now claim the money greed of the MGA and associated casinos...

Yes player protection is possible with limits etc.. but people should first leave as much money as possible... Sometime you no longer even have money for a 10 Paysafecard...

As long as here is not improved, everyone should get his kohle back!

Then start a new life! But who continues to play is then a case for the closed...

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Paulo1986

Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

28th Dec. 2018, at 09:10 pm CET#126
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Hello, is there anything new in terms of "get money back"? How does PayPal react to it?
Can Paypal seize the bank account?

Mfg

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Anonym

Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

29th Dec. 2018, at 07:21 am CET#127
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Paulo1986 wrote on 28/12/2018 at 21:10: Hello,is there anything new in terms of "get your money back"?How does PayPal react to it?
Can Paypal seize the bank account?

Mfg

What should be the new to it? Reversal works, but legal help is useful and you have to provide some information (e.g. a list of all transactions (deposits) which you object).

They can't seize the account, you object to the direct debit mandate and then they have to sue to get the money. This is usually not done, but instead they close the account and waive the money. This is also the case with higher sums.

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Sunnyundflo
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Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

29th Dec. 2018, at 08:40 am CET#128
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Paulo1986 wrote on 28/12/2018 at 21:10: Hello,is there anything new in terms of "get your money back"?How does PayPal react to it?
Can Paypal seize the bank account?

Mfg

Dude slowly becomes embarrassing here .....
Why do you give people help with something?
If you do not have the money to gamble then do not gamble !
And do not start cheating

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Anonym

Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

29th Dec. 2018, at 09:20 am CET#129
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Sunnyundflo wrote on 12/29/2018 at 08:40 AM
Dudes langsam wirds Peinlich hier .....
Why are you giving people help with something like this`?
If you don`t have the money to gamble then don`t gamble !
And do not start cheating

And especially not the online betting

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Anna-Sophie

Reportage - Online casinos: Money back from illegal gambling

5th Jan. 2019, at 01:38 pm CET#130
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Is there anyone here because that has done so not someone who can someone who is supposed to have done 😉
Just ask me how that should go, especially with debits that have occurred months ago zb by Paypal. Do they turn to PayPal or to the bank from which the debited ..
find the whole iwie strange
Greetings to all 😉

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