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Online Casinos in general: Report/subpoena for participation in illegal online gambling (Page 2)

Topic created on 25th Jan. 2021 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 27 | Views: 11,997
Nick1895
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Report/subpoena for participation in illegal online gambling

25th Jan. 2021, at 10:23 pm CET#11
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himmel80 wrote on 25.01.2021 at 21:19
no the licenses are awarded and official.

it is so far! The German sports betting market leader ... ... ... received as one of only few offerers with notice of 09 October 2020 by the regional council Darmstadt a license for the organization of sport bets in the Internet and in Shops. So you bet with the officially licensed number 1 sports betting provider !

also offer slots, if it is legal.

Since they have a license and offer slots, it is possible to gamble. with the new rules of course.

But there are already other providers who are through c.a 20

Therefore ads are invalid from today, unless you gamble on illegal sites.

We will see how the state will act against illegal sites

Why are you spreading such bullshit here ?!
The final allocation, if approved, is more likely to take place in June !
Everything else is so far only a beta phase!
And if you already allude to Tipico, you should actually also know that the already longer than only the 9.10 pay German taxes ! Therefore, it is also handled quite differently with them.
Do not spread unnecessary panic and your half-knowledge here, discreetly unnecessary

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Olli_Eule
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Report/subpoena for participation in illegal online gambling

25th Jan. 2021, at 10:58 pm CET#12
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Nick1895 wrote on 25.01.2021 at 22:23
Why are you spreading such bullshit here !!!
The final award, if approved, is more likely to take place in June !
Everything else is so far only a beta phase!
And if you already allude to Tipico, you should actually also know that the already longer than only the 9.10 pay German taxes ! Therefore, it is also handled quite differently with them.
Do not spread unnecessary panic and your half-knowledge here, discreetly unnecessary.

the message from Tipico I had received from them?
if then write what wrong?
Or do the users want to deceive?

It may well be that they have a temporary license?
And this in June because of the new law can still be tilted.
It can all change again anyway.

But the message from Tipico I find misleading then. sorry

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Nick1895
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Report/subpoena for participation in illegal online gambling

25th Jan. 2021, at 11:35 pm CET#13
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himmel80 wrote on 25.01.2021 at 22:58
the message from Tipico I had received from them?
if then they write something wrong?
Or do the users want to deceive?

It may well be that they have a temporary license?
And this in June because of the new law can still be tilted.
It can all change again anyway.

But the message from Tipico I find misleading then. sorry

Tipico is the only complete licensed German sports betting Provider in Germany so far... that was already before the 9.10 so. One pays there as the only provider no taxes / betting fees. For it
Pumps the also millions in various platforms, sports clubs and generally in the German sports sector. Logically, which is then also awarded a license there. The e-mail at the time referred to the casino, but also in the area it is a beta phase, so that was also explicitly separated in the meantime. Transactions between sports - Casino gibts therefore also no longer. Otherwise, there is nowhere a German license, only beta phases or SH licenses. And when people transfer vast sums of money (5-6 digit amounts) it is logical that people become aware of it. But that is the case in every area (keyword: tax evasion)! That does not mean yet for a long time that there now explicitly on it is paid attention. This was the case years ago and will continue to be the case in the years to come
And now you can actually close the topic

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Falko
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Report/subpoena for participation in illegal online gambling

26th Jan. 2021, at 03:37 am CET#14
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Nick1895 wrote on 25.01.2021 at 23:35
Tipico is the only complete licensed German sports betting Provider in Germany so far... that was already before 9.10 so. One pays there as the only provider no taxes / betting fees. For it
Pumps the also millions in various platforms, sports clubs and generally in the German sports sector. Logically, which is then also awarded a license there. The e-mail at the time referred to the casino, but also in the area it is a beta phase, so that was also explicitly separated in the meantime. Transactions between sports - Casino gibts therefore also no longer. Otherwise, there is nowhere a German license, only beta phases or SH licenses. And when people transfer vast sums of money (5-6 digit amounts) it is logical that people become aware of it. But that is the case in every area (keyword: tax evasion)! That does not mean yet for a long time that there now explicitly on it is paid attention. This was the case years ago and will continue to be the case in the years to come
And now you can actually close the topic.

I would like to add something to your first sentence. Apart from Tipico, the sports betting provider Neobet also runs with a German license. And with Neobet from a 2 combination or more, this provider also always takes over the taxes. Only for single bets, the customer must pay the tax here itself

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Falke
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Report/subpoena for participation in illegal online gambling

26th Jan. 2021, at 04:23 am CET#15
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XxxGamerXxx wrote on 25.01.2021 at 14:46: So guys you should definitely not panic. I have also recently received an ad.

Today I had contact with a lawyer about the ad regarding illegal gambling. He said, do not worry at all in really ALL CASES it did not come to a conviction. It came very quickly to the discontinuation of the proceedings.

The main problem is always that THE BANKS REPORT YOU!!! Because otherwise the whole authorities do not get it, with the Zockerrei of the people.

Now I will incur costs for the lawyer, wait for the answer how much it will cost and then I will run the matter through the lawyer.


Since I would tell my bank but also what else if the me seriously indicate

Above all, they would make themselves punishable according to their logic because they allow the payments.

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Stromberg
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Report/subpoena for participation in illegal online gambling

26th Jan. 2021, at 09:38 am CET#16
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Falko wrote on 26.01.2021 at 03:37
To your first sentence I would like to add something. Except Tipico also the sports betting Provider Neobet runs with a German license. And with Neobet from a 2 combo or more, this provider also always takes over the taxes. Only for single bets, the customer must pay the tax here itself.

And if I have understood correctly also a handful more...

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Begbie
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Report/subpoena for participation in illegal online gambling

26th Jan. 2021, at 11:17 am CET#17
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At the very most, the state will only become suspicious in the case of extreme money transfers.
In such cases, the bank would be the one to report it.
Or, in the context of other criminal offenses from other areas of life, this sector may also be investigated by chance.

But normal gamblers or gamblers who gamble away a few thousand euros a month are unlikely to ring the doorbell and search the house or summon anyone.

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R3hab
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Report/subpoena for participation in illegal online gambling

26th Jan. 2021, at 12:01 pm CET#18
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Only problems.

Online makes really no more bock awesome that Online Casinos are so through with me

Had never thought that
But the laws help. Let's see when novomatic and gauselmans army of lobbyists come and the laws new forms.

Hope it remains so or with some adjustment 😁🤣

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Anonym

Report/subpoena for participation in illegal online gambling

26th Jan. 2021, at 12:24 pm CET#19
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himmel80 wrote on 25.01.2021 at 22:58
the message from Tipico I had received from them?
if then they write something wrong?
Or do the users want to deceive?

It may well be that they have a temporary license?
And this in June because of the new law can still be tilted.
It can all change again anyway.

But the message from Tipico I find misleading then. sorry

As your first post was written, I believe you, that you have only confused something or you have been misled - so once again calmly and without hostility the explanation

Tipico has received a sports betting license - so you can place bets there legally
The online gaming library that Tipico operates (in the meantime it is a separate site) is not licensed

Without a valid gambling contract, no valid law and without a valid law, there can be no licenses - not even temporary ones
As of today, even the authority responsible for this in the future is only planned on paper and does not even exist yet

Until the contract was decided (should it come to it at all) and a law was enacted, it continues to run as follows

Online casino's that have a license from an EU member state, run under valid European law and are in Germany a "gray area" (which is ridiculous).

Online gambling houses that adhere to the transitional regulation of the state are currently tolerated and are supposed to receive an amnesty later in principle and then be licensed

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Anonym

Report/subpoena for participation in illegal online gambling

26th Jan. 2021, at 01:00 pm CET#20
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Back to the actual topic, that the banks are the problem, or rather some banks

Lately, I've been reading things like "the German state is now slowly taking action against the illegal providers" - the state isn't doing anything because it can't do anything at the moment

In order for it to do something, it would first need a valid law and a competent authority
Casinos that have a license from Malta, for example, operate under European legislation - Germany may not accept this, but until there is a valid law in Germany, the state cannot do much without getting into trouble with the EU jurisdiction

The banks, however, are obliged to report things to the FIU/customs above certain amounts and sometimes even act below these limits if they think there are anomalies or irregularities

As soon as such a report is out organs like police / customs of course start to investigate
Usually on the basis of the money laundering law and or on the basis of paragraph 284 / 285 StGB
Only why it never comes to convictions, why these procedures are stopped again and again?
Because unlicensed gambling in Germany is illegal in principle, but the Online Casinos in which you have played, often (of course not always) have a license from Malta and operate under valid European law
This is where the licenses from Malta come into play, laws of the EU in relation to, among other things, the freedom to provide services - one of the 4 fundamental freedoms of the European internal market
The authorities know very well that they currently can not do much and if anything only selectively

Therefore, one usually only hears about such cases when, in the broadest sense, banks were involved

Those who play through their bank account will definitely continue to run the Risk of experiencing such a scenario
This is unpleasant, but for the time being it will have no consequences and everyone else can continue to play relatively calmly in online casinos until there is a valid law

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