Online Casinos in general: Question - Who decides on wins? Casino or game provider? (Page 3)

Duhastrecht wrote on 09/12/2021 at 23:09: The casino's Provider decides who wins what and how, not the operators of the games.

So there may be RTP 90%, but mostly the RTP's are at 10-30% depending on which casino

for example: you win 400€ and pay out, and then after the pay out, you win nothing for months. And that comes from nothing
The providers decide 100% who wins what, and customers who Deposit permanently also win more or at all, depending on that.

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gamble1 wrote on 11.12.2021 at 20:56 clock: So to express myself here also times to me personally it is relatively shit no matter who decides on win and loss or RTP reductions fact is if you compare the last few years with everything that is currently running would have to notice everyone that something is going very wrong

Today I've gambled as a cautionary example times again 100+100 first quite small on 0.50 € which has brought me at least 1x free spins with 15 € as then but after 100 € no piece of the most diverse things more came I gambled on 1 € where I then at least after another 100 € with a balance of about 6 € still got free spins ...... ... A as a symbol ...... . with an unspeakable win of say and write 6.50 with a drecks besch******* A and not even 3 pieces

Thus was then once again 200 € of which 100 € real money were sunk with 2 whole free spins rounds

Of course it ran years ago also times shit but not nearly as now

For my part, it is therefore relatively unimportant who is the culprit here for this development fact is we are now all more than screwed and wins are even rarer than before

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CashOut wrote on 11/12/2021 at 9:12 PM

Do you recognize it now too, yes? Well then welcome, that's what we're talking about all the time
I think you just needed a proof and the casino gave it to you.

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CashOut wrote on 11/12/2021 at 18:51
The magic word here is: Addict. There's a lot you can do with an addict believe it or not
You think they don't know what makes an addict tick? Do you seriously think they don't have psychologists there who know exactly how to trigger addicts so that they gamble more and more? It's like the arcades, for years addicts have been produced and now you can set the payout as low as you want and the customer still continues to play. Logical common sense sets in and the gambling industry has nothing to lose no matter how they treat their customers
They come back again and again, look around all the complaining and still keep playing.

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gamble1 wrote on 11.12.2021 at 20:56 clock: So to express myself here also times to me personally it is relatively shit no matter who decides on win and loss or RTP reductions fact is if you compare the last few years with everything that is currently running would have to notice everyone that something is going very wrong

Today I've gambled as a cautionary example times again 100 + 100 first quite small on 0.50 € which has brought me at least 1x free spins with 15 € as then but after 100 € no piece of the most diverse things more came I gambled on 1 € where I then at least after another 100 € with a balance of about 6 € still got free spins ...... ... A as a symbol ...... . with an unspeakable win of say and write 6.50 with a drecks besch******* A and not even 3 pieces

Thus was then once again 200 € of which 100 € real money were sunk with 2 whole free spins rounds

Of course it ran years ago also times shit but not nearly as now

For my part, it is therefore relatively unimportant who is the culprit here for this development fact is we are now all more than f**ked and wins are even rarer than in the past

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CashOut wrote on 11/12/2021 at 18:51
The magic word here is: Addict. There's a lot you can do with an addict believe it or not
You think they don't know what makes an addict tick? Do you seriously think they don't have psychologists there who know exactly how to trigger addicts so that they gamble more and more? It's like the arcades, for years addicts have been produced and now you can set the payout as low as you want and the customer still continues to play. Logical common sense sets in and the gambling industry has nothing to lose no matter how they treat their customers
They come back again and again, look around all the complaining and still keep playing.

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Makbarbrother wrote on 10/12/2021 at 02:14 PM
I have to disagree with that conditionally. So most gamblers, including me buttern nevertheless further purely, no matter whether one loses or not. Then vllt times in between a few days break made paired with the superstition "Bit cooling phase, then runs it certainly again" and further in the context
At some point it might be too much for you and you block yourself etc.
But in this period, they have already earned enough from you and there is again a new stupid with which you can pull the game, until it is also enough again, until another new comes etc. etc.... Never ending Story. And that runs parallel to each other, not only when one fool has locked the next.

There is no one who locks after 2-3 times loss directly somewhere. At least the majority does not. And most of the larger casino groups have hundreds of thousands or millions of active players, they don't care if 5% of them log off early

Besides, this is exactly the entrance into the vicious circle of Gambling addiction: Wanting to recoup your losses from the last 2-3 times. That's how the shit starts. So it is even more cunning to rip off the players.
If one would win now from 3 deposits 3 times fat one could think to oneself rather "Ok correctly now I have 10k together, is enough now, so this will not go on forever."
Provided, of course, one is NOT yet in the spiral inside and can still think realistically and clearly.

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Julian wrote on 09.12.2021 at 23:51
By the RTP (publicly visible) is provided by the Provider, mathematically seen the players lose anyway in the long run.
Why should they then lower the whole thing even more, with the Risk of losing their regular customers to

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