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25th Nov. 2018, at 10:00 am CET#25
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Have the problem I'm also addicted in mild form. still have everything under control. still
Take me before 100 euros to gamble pay a notice win nothing play anyway because I think must come yes times what.If I win now I stop of course not because that is really cool.Take me before at certain amounts half pay off and then continue to play.Tell me so you gamble now 200 euros the week somehow does not work.Take me before instead of frustration every evening 1 bar of chocolate to eat a half does not work.For advice I would be grateful.
1) First of all, set Deposit limits in the casino, if possible several, e.g. max 500 euros per month and max 100 euros per day - depending on your income.
2) After reaching a self-imposed limit, first do something else - play a game, watch a movie, go out to eat with your wife/girlfriend - i.e. something that completely distracts you for a while.
3) After reaching a limit, think about how long you had to work for the amount.
4) Think about what you could have bought for that money - preferably something you've wanted to buy for a long time.
5) Go to the account overview and keep in mind how much you have already gambled away in the past, e.g. this year (of course, offset cashouts) - repeat punct. 3) and 4) with the sum
Manfrede4 wrote on 25.11.2018 at 10:00: Have the problem am also addicted in mild form .Have everything still under control. "Still"
Take me before 100 euros to gamble pay a notice win nothing play anyway because I think must come yes times what.If I win now I stop of course not because that is really cool.Take me before at certain amounts half pay out and then continue to play.Tell me so you gamble now 200 euros the week somehow does not work.Take me before instead of frustration every evening 1 bar of chocolate to eat a half does not work.For advice I would be grateful.
Addicted in mild form that would be exactly the same if my wife would come to me and say
"Hellooooo honey- I'm half-pregnant".
Addiction is not controllable and apart from the fact that every addiction will accompany you throughout your life, you can only stop it at best.
Sooner or later it will pull the ground out from under your feet...mostly one incident, e.g. a separation, loss of work, a death or the like is enough here already completely for, control also with s.g. limits...never!
Addiction has a home in your limbic system.
And the comparison with a gluttonous Hydra does not lag behind there at all.
And no matter how much you give it to eat, keyword "Limits", hereby it has a right to live!
Total abstinence is the only way to dry the beast.
Addictive pressure, limited play nothing more than a crying baby feed so that it gives rest.
In this case with the last also no solution...since addiction is "Nimmersatt".
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25th Nov. 2018, at 02:44 pm CET#4
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 11/25/2018 at 1:45 pm
Addicted in mild form, that would be exactly the same if my wife came to me and said
"Helloooo honey- I'm half pregnant".
Addiction is not controllable and aside from the fact that any addiction will be with you for life, the best you can do is stop it.
Sooner or later it will pull the ground out from under you...mostly one incident, e.g. a separation, loss of work, a death or the like is enough here already completely for, control also with s.g. limits...never!
Addiction has a home in your limbic system.
And the comparison with a gluttonous Hydra does not lag behind there at all.
And no matter how much you give it to eat, keyword "Limits", hereby it has a right to live!
Total abstinence is the only way to dry the beast.
Addictive pressure, limited play nothing more than a crying baby feed so that it gives rest.
In this case with the last also no solution...since addiction is "Nimmersatt".
Maybe I expressed myself wrong.
For me there are roughly 3 types of gamblers.
1.I decide to gamble a certain amount of money, then I stop for example and play again next week "That works"
2 I decide to gamble a certain amount of money, I decide not to gamble until next week, but it doesn't work.
3 I decide to gamble a certain amount of money, play higher and gamble away my goods and chattels so that I have nothing left.
I would count myself as 2 because I do not make debts to gamble.
If I get into an emergency, a family member dies or something like that, it can of course happen that I slip into 3.
Of course I can try to stop completely, then I might start drinking, become an alcoholic, or smoke.
The problem is that there is no easy solution.
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25th Nov. 2018, at 02:54 pm CET#5
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Advice for what?
No one here knows what exactly your goal is and to what extent you may only be fooling yourself
I can give some advice, but it is not necessarily applicable to you and your goals.
Basically, I don't recommend that anyone addicted to gambling stop. As long as you are mentally capable of judgment and of age (in the sense that you have already attained a certain minimum limit of knowledge and wisdom in life. So not the legally defined age of course), you have to be able to estimate the consensus of his actions and be able to bear the sole responsibility for his decisions.
As everywhere in the life applies finally:
You just have to be able to "look yourself in the mirror" in the evening or always be at peace with yourself. If you are not, you might as well give yourself the bullet.
Consequently, you must first become clear about what exactly you want.
Based on the information given so far, I can advise you to try to gamble your money only in a real state casino in the future. Or let's say 'to pursue your Gambling addiction exclusively in a real casino'.
Otherwise also very important:
Don't fool yourself, don't set a withdrawal limit, and don't plan any withdrawals after you win. Deposit limits cannot be generalized for everyone at any time. Unless you can't handle or bear the consequences. Then, of course, absolutely consistent adherence to your limits is an absolute obligation and a basic requirement.
The second advice would be:
Absolutely play paroli or keep deposit amounts as low as possible and always try to capitalize. But like the first piece of advice, this would only be pure damage limitation for your addiction, and by no means anything else.
@Ichbins2018:
Addiction can be graded, the state of pregnancy cannot. In early forms, the addiction is very well controllable. Extremes such as the complete cessation of the game do not work because each player must in principle treat himself. This works more or less well in early phases of addiction, but in the end (addiction) it almost never works without external help.
In the early form of addiction, even several weeks of gaming break are not uncommon - yet the addictive state remains. Here it is quite possible to control the addiction, to push it back and also to end it. But as you correctly pointed out, no addiction is ever gone because it is anchored in our brains ... but cold turkey under self supervision almost never works.
Methaphors help to understand but should be chosen carefully. Limited play is no different than feeding a crying baby to get it to shut up.
Counter question : What would you (or any other normal thinking person) do to keep a crying baby quiet ? Not feeding it would probably be a cruel "solution" - so comparing baby/playing addiction is probably a bit unfortunate.
I hope you understand what I am getting at
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25th Nov. 2018, at 03:14 pm CET#7
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Another essential piece of advice, which is universally valid for all areas of life and constellations, and which all people and all religions (as well as all nihilists) represent in some way, is absolutely banal and yet often completely undervalued:
Try to take advantage of everything (that is, even everything negative) and take the positive out of it. One does not believe sometimes at all that one can take from some negative at all still something positive....
But who can not do this, has already lost in life.
(I have myself several times.four-digit payouts completely canceled and even paid on it. Therefore, I allow myself to give such a general advice at this point, even if it is basically taken for granted).
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Oh yeah: And maybe it even works out with the really big win. Or for a respectable interim profit, which is reason enough to take a break and think about it. Let's not fool ourselves: As long as you continue to gamble and the more often and higher you do this "fun", you will almost certainly pay at least the Bank advantage through interest in the long run and have a negative balance. But if you are able to vary the whole thing thoughtfully, you can get away with other results than the well known long term forced minus 1-10% bank advantage.
Only recently I recommended a casino newcomer in the everyday life to leave it rather completely but if nevertheless: only once per year into the casino, a single round with the Roulette. And regardless of the result danacb directly back home. (the type of bet does not really play a role).
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25th Nov. 2018, at 05:19 pm CET#9
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You ask the people who have problems with gambling for advice? I'll answer once anyway:
So there is no advice that simply works, because in the end only you control yourself and no one else. Whether you Deposit or not has no consequences in that sense. People who have been gambling for years need at least some support (friend, family member, counseling - doesn't have to be an explicit counseling center - there are enough places where you can just talk). As soon as one can no longer keep to one's own words, one will not always keep to them in the future. At most, you can set mitigating limits and exclude yourself from time to time.
I have not even played 1 year and have stopped (since 08.11) or some time ago I had still accepted free spins without deposit (but was hardly anything, vllt. 5 minutes a day) and I have but also completely discarded because it is very seductive (ie I have excluded myself everywhere). Supporting I have a second account online unilaterally limited, I leave on the main account with which I have previously deposited only a fraction if I urgently order online what or want to pay. But it is clear that since I no longer use the free play promotions, I have significant withdrawal symptoms, I sleep worse, often have headaches and sweats when I remember to log on somewhere. Hopefully I'll get through this phase soon, then it will all have ended well for me.
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Take me before 100 euros to gamble pay a notice win nothing play anyway because I think must come yes times what.If I win now I stop of course not because that is really cool.Take me before at certain amounts half pay off and then continue to play.Tell me so you gamble now 200 euros the week somehow does not work.Take me before instead of frustration every evening 1 bar of chocolate to eat a half does not work.For advice I would be grateful.
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Set priorities
And remember you are a man with pride and honor
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2) After reaching a self-imposed limit, first do something else - play a game, watch a movie, go out to eat with your wife/girlfriend - i.e. something that completely distracts you for a while.
3) After reaching a limit, think about how long you had to work for the amount.
4) Think about what you could have bought for that money - preferably something you've wanted to buy for a long time.
5) Go to the account overview and keep in mind how much you have already gambled away in the past, e.g. this year (of course, offset cashouts) - repeat punct. 3) and 4) with the sum
Works - at least for me - excellent.
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Addicted in mild form that would be exactly the same if my wife would come to me and say
"Hellooooo honey- I'm half-pregnant".
Addiction is not controllable and apart from the fact that every addiction will accompany you throughout your life, you can only stop it at best.
Sooner or later it will pull the ground out from under your feet...mostly one incident, e.g. a separation, loss of work, a death or the like is enough here already completely for, control also with s.g. limits...never!
Addiction has a home in your limbic system.
And the comparison with a gluttonous Hydra does not lag behind there at all.
And no matter how much you give it to eat, keyword "Limits", hereby it has a right to live!
Total abstinence is the only way to dry the beast.
Addictive pressure, limited play nothing more than a crying baby feed so that it gives rest.
In this case with the last also no solution...since addiction is "Nimmersatt".
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Maybe I expressed myself wrong.
For me there are roughly 3 types of gamblers.
1.I decide to gamble a certain amount of money, then I stop for example and play again next week "That works"
2 I decide to gamble a certain amount of money, I decide not to gamble until next week, but it doesn't work.
3 I decide to gamble a certain amount of money, play higher and gamble away my goods and chattels so that I have nothing left.
I would count myself as 2 because I do not make debts to gamble.
If I get into an emergency, a family member dies or something like that, it can of course happen that I slip into 3.
Of course I can try to stop completely, then I might start drinking, become an alcoholic, or smoke.
The problem is that there is no easy solution.
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No one here knows what exactly your goal is and to what extent you may only be fooling yourself
I can give some advice, but it is not necessarily applicable to you and your goals.
Basically, I don't recommend that anyone addicted to gambling stop. As long as you are mentally capable of judgment and of age (in the sense that you have already attained a certain minimum limit of knowledge and wisdom in life. So not the legally defined age of course), you have to be able to estimate the consensus of his actions and be able to bear the sole responsibility for his decisions.
As everywhere in the life applies finally:
You just have to be able to "look yourself in the mirror" in the evening or always be at peace with yourself. If you are not, you might as well give yourself the bullet.
Consequently, you must first become clear about what exactly you want.
Based on the information given so far, I can advise you to try to gamble your money only in a real state casino in the future. Or let's say 'to pursue your Gambling addiction exclusively in a real casino'.
Otherwise also very important:
Don't fool yourself, don't set a withdrawal limit, and don't plan any withdrawals after you win. Deposit limits cannot be generalized for everyone at any time. Unless you can't handle or bear the consequences. Then, of course, absolutely consistent adherence to your limits is an absolute obligation and a basic requirement.
The second advice would be:
Absolutely play paroli or keep deposit amounts as low as possible and always try to capitalize. But like the first piece of advice, this would only be pure damage limitation for your addiction, and by no means anything else.
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Addiction can be graded, the state of pregnancy cannot. In early forms, the addiction is very well controllable. Extremes such as the complete cessation of the game do not work because each player must in principle treat himself. This works more or less well in early phases of addiction, but in the end (addiction) it almost never works without external help.
In the early form of addiction, even several weeks of gaming break are not uncommon - yet the addictive state remains. Here it is quite possible to control the addiction, to push it back and also to end it. But as you correctly pointed out, no addiction is ever gone because it is anchored in our brains ... but cold turkey under self supervision almost never works.
Methaphors help to understand but should be chosen carefully.
Limited play is no different than feeding a crying baby to get it to shut up.
Counter question : What would you (or any other normal thinking person) do to keep a crying baby quiet ? Not feeding it would probably be a cruel "solution" - so comparing baby/playing addiction is probably a bit unfortunate.
I hope you understand what I am getting at
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Try to take advantage of everything (that is, even everything negative) and take the positive out of it. One does not believe sometimes at all that one can take from some negative at all still something positive....
But who can not do this, has already lost in life.
(I have myself several times.four-digit payouts completely canceled and even paid on it. Therefore, I allow myself to give such a general advice at this point, even if it is basically taken for granted).
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Only recently I recommended a casino newcomer in the everyday life to leave it rather completely but if nevertheless: only once per year into the casino, a single round with the Roulette. And regardless of the result danacb directly back home. (the type of bet does not really play a role).
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So there is no advice that simply works, because in the end only you control yourself and no one else. Whether you Deposit or not has no consequences in that sense. People who have been gambling for years need at least some support (friend, family member, counseling - doesn't have to be an explicit counseling center - there are enough places where you can just talk). As soon as one can no longer keep to one's own words, one will not always keep to them in the future. At most, you can set mitigating limits and exclude yourself from time to time.
I have not even played 1 year and have stopped (since 08.11) or some time ago I had still accepted free spins without deposit (but was hardly anything, vllt. 5 minutes a day) and I have but also completely discarded because it is very seductive (ie I have excluded myself everywhere). Supporting I have a second account online unilaterally limited, I leave on the main account with which I have previously deposited only a fraction if I urgently order online what or want to pay. But it is clear that since I no longer use the free play promotions, I have significant withdrawal symptoms, I sleep worse, often have headaches and sweats when I remember to log on somewhere. Hopefully I'll get through this phase soon, then it will all have ended well for me.
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