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Public prosecutor's office wants compensation for lost value.
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This gambling issue doesn't seem to have been dealt with yet.
You can't find anything at all that will help you.
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My private message has still not been read. So I strongly suspect that he hasn't been on GJ for that long. You can't blame him either, he's talking about a 5-figure sum and he doesn't have an easy life situation.
Try anwalt.de, they at least have a lot of lawyers and are based in Bavaria. Confiscation of proceeds from illegal gambling - have you been charged with illegal gambling? (anwalt.de). Just scroll down and you will find an option where you can contact them if you have not already done so.
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Have you looked for a gambling lawyer from another federal state? There are dozens here in NRW that you could write to.
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I don't know whether it makes sense to contact a lawyer from another federal state.
I think that would cause additional unnecessary costs.
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i've only been a silent reader so far, but now I have to speak up:
I recommend the Munich law firm Hambach & Hambach. The lawyers there are extremely well-versed in gambling law and also in criminal law, have numerous publications on the subject and also have a lot of practical experience. Certainly not cheap, but very capable.
This is not meant to be an advertisement, but nobody here in the forum has anything to gain from a poor legal defense in such a serious matter.
A few years ago, Hambach also successfully defended a master painter at Munich District Court who was in a similar situation:
https://www.lto.de/recht/nachrichten/n/lg-muenchen-i-deutsches-strafrecht-nicht-anwendbar-gluecksspiel-online-internet
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and will be happy to keep us up to date!
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everything has advantages and disadvantages
soon artificial intelligence will condemn you, at least it's not so expensive
a few cents for electricity and not thousands for a few puppets
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I completely agree with you, because these same lawyers have represented someone here in the forum before and they saved a player a lot of money. The court also wanted to confiscate everything from her and her bank account was completely blocked so that she couldn't withdraw any more, Hambach & Hambach saved her 35,000 euros. She won in court and was allowed to keep everything, but had to pay €6,000 of the €35,000 to the law firm. In the end, she was still very grateful and she was recommended this law firm by someone here in the forum, just like you are doing here. He should take your tip.
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I followed Theodor's Tip and found someone from another federal state who will take on the client. the costs are between a few hundred euros and about 1000 euros, depending on how the whole thing goes. i think that's perfectly all right. he also said that this confiscation procedure in gambling is fairly new and you can't make a prediction. well, let's see, we'll know more after we've seen the files.
I'll keep you up to date.
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Keep your fingers crossed McFly. I think a call to the law firm recommended by the two members wouldn't hurt anyway. They seem to be absolute professionals and are also based in your federal state. Maybe they are interested in your case and will take you on.
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it's great that you've found someone.
However, I would be careful, because for your case you really need to be familiar with the subject matter and the lawyer's approach is crucial to the outcome of the case.
In the link above, the master painter walked away from the trial with his win and no conviction.
In this case, things turned out very differently and the lawyer was obviously very clueless:
https://www.schwaebische.de/regional/sigmaringen/bad-saulgau/mann-verliert-bei-gluecksspiel-und-vor-gericht-2341490
"Andreas Rößner, the defendant's lawyer, argued that his client had fully admitted the facts of the case, but that he had known nothing about the whitelist and blacklist. Moreover, he had not been guilty of anything so far. He demanded that the judgment of the district court be withdrawn or at least that the confiscation of the gambling win be waived."
Incidentally, I believe that the thread starter will also have been accommodated by Hambach and Hambach.
As Theodor has already written, I would at least make enquiries there. You are of course "stronger" in pairs.
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I see it the same way as some other users here. In this case, I wouldn't get a lawyer who doesn't know anything about it, but one who specializes in gambling law. Or at least someone who is involved when the state confiscates something.
For example, I have a lawyer who specializes in this (reclaims) and he has told me quite a lot about the mistakes the opposing side has often made because the casinos have often hired lawyers who were expensive but had no idea about gambling.
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What interests me is whether this is actually a new phenomenon in the state of Bavaria, as already mentioned in previous comments, or whether it affects the whole of Germany. Has your lawyer said anything about this by any chance?
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That's why I haven't looked in here.
Some people here have already mentioned the law firm H&H and it's true, they are representing me. If they can't help me, then probably no one else can.
Most gambling lawyers only deal with reclaiming losses.
I wish you Mcfly the best of luck in getting out of this without too much damage and I look forward to hearing what happens next.
Not much has happened to me so far except for an extension of the deadline and that I have made some data protection requests to Paysafecard and the casinos mentioned in the application (only Videoslots was kind enough to send me data information, Rabbit Entertainment Ltd. allegedly never existed before 2023 😅 and RedRhino Ltd. no longer exists)
With Paysafecard, I can track my depositors in online banking until mid-2020, and of course they add up to much more than the book money they want to collect. Not to mention my losses since around 2010 when I started with online casinos. Whether the public prosecutor's office will be interested in that in the end is another question.
As soon as I have news, I will report here.
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First of all GUTS, I hope you're doing well and that it stays that way, I'm definitely keeping my fingers crossed that you can avert the skimming of the funds.
You are trying to argue with the evidence that the depositors were higher than the payouts, and to prevent or reduce it, I really hope that you will be successful.
Unfortunately, this is not a tax office or any authority where you can claim expenses, I have a case from a distant acquaintance, it is not quite comparable.
The people in question were engaged in a swingeing illegal trade, which is really quite proper, raids, money, cars, watches etc. seized, proceedings and long prison sentences followed, but the awesome part was that it was also established that so and so much turnover was/ could be generated, that a total sum in the millions must be paid after imprisonment (completely unrealistic, and thus it is also pre-programmed that the person will have to reoffend after imprisonment), but expenses, or rather acquisition costs, were not deducted from the required sum, and the attempt would not be successful, I believe.
They simply took the average price demanded, multiplied that by the number of grams that was presumably sold/could be sold and that was then determined, it's a different area but the same in terms of understanding. At least that's roughly what I have in mind.
As I said, I am seriously keeping my fingers crossed that you will be successful, but please don't let yourself be thrown off track if you are unsuccessful.
I would also just like to point this out to you as a precaution so that you don't fall from all clouds, I really wish you all the best 🙂
PS: I suspect that if your deposits change, only the Deposit with which the win was made would be deducted, all others should/could be classified as irrelevant according to the legislator/collection authority.
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