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Online Casinos in general: Professional player/professional player (Page 2)

Topic created on 13th Mar. 2018 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 20 | Views: 9,663
s****e

Professional player/professional player

13th Mar. 2018, at 09:29 pm CET#11
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The same question was asked recently, probably he just opened a new account,
to ask again this rarely stupid question! Even the question is almost identical.
Even the question about the tax return is the same.

Stop bullshitting people here and get off your Hartzer ass.
Then you will learn something clever!

Here is the link from the same question:

https://www.kasinoforum.com/threads/16274-Berufsspieler-in-Online-Casinos

there he already got all the answers he needs.
Troll.

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Julian
Elite

Professional player/professional player

13th Mar. 2018, at 09:50 pm CET#12
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Professional players in online casino ..
All right, that's enough internet for today.... Good night everyone.

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Dutch78
Expert

Professional player/professional player

13th Mar. 2018, at 10:00 pm CET#13
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Hammerdammer wrote on 03/13/2018 at 21:10
Dutch78 wrote on 03/13/2018 at 21:04

No, you may not, because as a professional player you need a sound education and a journeyman's certificate, at best you do the master immediately afterwards.
If this is given, nothing speaks against it, you would just have to go to the city with the master's certificate to register a business there to be able to make yourself independent.

That is not true. Of course affiliates are allowed to earn money if they pay taxes. Online gambling is not prohibited in Germany. There is a gray area. There is no documented case in Germany where someone's earnings/wins have been confiscated due to illegality. Furthermore, you do not need a master's certificate to register a business. Every normal person can register a trade. You need a Meisterbrief if you want to start a company but not for the normal trade.

Between the lines I have hidden a lot of irony and sarcasm to Easter.
Since I am self-employed, I know of course how the whole thing works in Germany, with the master craftsman's diploma he should only express his competence to the city.
Even if the term "professional" implies it, I am also aware that this is not a training profession, certainly not one where a master is also offered by the IHK
Have you taken the thread for full?

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Daniel
Elite

Professional player/professional player

13th Mar. 2018, at 10:09 pm CET#14
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Wins from Games of chance do not have to be taxed. In Poker, there are actually a few professional players, because in poker, luck is not the only factor. If the tax office determines that you are a professional poker player, then you will have to pay tax on your wins. For more information, please google Eddy Schaf:




It was a contentious issue or still is.

I say it is impossible to earn a regular income playing Roulette or slot machines. However, if you do manage to earn a regular income from gambling, then it could actually happen that the tax office tries to make you pay. Whether you would have to pay taxes or not would be decided by the courts. So far, (pure) gambling is not subject to taxes. So if you win a million dollar Jackpot tomorrow, you don't have to pay taxes on it. Only if it can be proven that you regularly and reproducibly make a profit over the years and can live on it, then such a discussion would come into consideration.

No one can answer you whether you have to pay taxes or not, because there has never been anyone who has gambled in such a way that it would have been seriously discussed.

Playing in Online Casinos is a gray area for players (not really legal but not illegal either) - at least if you play in online casinos with an EU license. We list in our casino comparison by the way exclusively casinos with EU license. Online casinos exist now for about 20 years and so far only one player was convicted by a Munich district court. The player was fined (daily rates) and the wins were confiscated

In the second instance before the Munich regional court, however, the verdict was overturned and the player was refunded the confiscated money and, of course, did not have to pay a fine. Detailed information on this case can be found in our article "Is online gambling legal in Germany? "

So it can be stated that online gambling (in EU casinos) is legal for players in practice.

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MoTec
Visitor

Professional player/professional player

13th Mar. 2018, at 11:51 pm CET#15
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Actually a few people here are right I would say....

It is a dichotomy - on the one hand it is not so wrong what Dutch78 said, but on the other hand it can be refuted.
The fact is that here nenge statements zustrefen.

Even if you try to pass yourself off as a "freelancer", there are some things that are contradictory in themselves. In contrast to a tradesman, a freelancer does not have to register a business with the trade office and does not have to pay trade tax. It is sufficient to register with the tax office, where he receives a tax number.

But if you register a trade, which you then have to do, you are automatically liable to trade tax and are then no longer a "freelancer"... as a freelancer you must of course not pay trade tax, but gambling is just Gewerbsteuerpflichtuig and as soon as you zb or u.a. damit beruflich zutun have eb to open a Casioni, you can not do this freelance.

Do not know if you understand this... in the end, the one with the other constantly cancels out

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StefanSchroeder

Professional player/professional player

14th Mar. 2018, at 03:08 pm CET#16
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Thanks for the meaningful responses, especially to Daniel.

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RiverSong
Legend

Professional player/professional player

14th Mar. 2018, at 03:13 pm CET#17
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Dutch78 wrote on 03/13/2018 at 22:00
Hammerdammer wrote on 03/13/2018 at 21:10
Dutch78 wrote on 03/13/2018 at 21:04

No, you may not, because as a professional player you need a sound education and a journeyman's certificate, at best you do the master immediately afterwards.
If this is given, nothing speaks against it, you would just have to go to the city with the master's certificate to register a business there to be able to make yourself independent.

That is not true. Of course affiliates are allowed to earn money if they pay taxes. Online gambling is not prohibited in Germany. There is a gray area. There is no documented case in Germany where someone's earnings/wins have been confiscated due to illegality. Furthermore, you do not need a master's certificate to register a business. Every normal person can register a trade. You need a Meisterbrief if you want to start a company yes but not for the normal trade.

Between the lines I have hidden a lot of irony and sarcasm to Easter.
Since I am self-employed, I know of course how the whole thing works in Germany, with the master craftsman's diploma he should only express his competence to the city.
Even if the term "professional" implies it, I am also aware that this is not a training profession, certainly not one where a master is also offered by the IHK
Have you taken the thread for full?

Irony and how to recognize them, sometimes a difficult undertaking. sorry had to be now fitting just times

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Anonym

Professional player/professional player

14th Mar. 2018, at 05:19 pm CET#18
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Anonym

Professional player/professional player

14th Mar. 2018, at 08:35 pm CET#19
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Well, if he has nen own casino or jmd knows who has a casino and a possibility exists to manipulate the slots
Can that gehn, but as is known, every happiness ends at some point ne.
No no that is not possible
And whether that is possible I do not believe because it is gambling and online it is forbidden anyway
And advertising for oc is actually forbidden
And a short time the betting was also prohibited and is Nu legal so maybe oc will also legal or completely banned

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Anonym

Professional player/professional player

15th Mar. 2018, at 02:29 am CET#20
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He will already have a super duper strategy that he will not tell anyone ... but why is he then scared whether it is legal or not^^

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