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Online Casinos in general: Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ? (Page 2)

Topic created on 22nd Feb. 2019 | Page: 2 of 4 | Answers: 33 | Views: 4,349
Horsepower44
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 06:38 pm CET#11
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stevo11984 wrote on 02/23/2019 at 18:29: The discrepancy clearly shows that the odds of winning (unofficially) are significantly higher for live events, which is the only way to explain the turnover requirements.

Why should the odds of winning be 5-6 times higher than slots ? Is it officially absolutely not it is almost the same!

From this it is to be concluded that the data of the Slothersteller can not be correct!

Oh ok. Sounds argumentatively conclusive, but personally I don't think much of such theories

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stevo11984
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 06:55 pm CET#12
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Horsepower44 wrote on 02/23/2019 6:37 PM
Because the winning expectation for the player is theoretically the higher at the table. And thus the OC earns less on it. What's not to understand about that? Why would the OC do it the other way around? To cut its own flesh? Furthermore, we have already established that the slots run faster and are played more

What would be your explanation?

You are right. Of course the casinos don't do that. They're not stupid, they're incredibly accurate! This means that all bonus conditions are well thought out.


And therefore it is illogical that a Roulette table should have 5-6 times the probability of a slot!
Both are absolutely and exclusively a matter of luck.

So where is the difference?

With the Slot the data comes externally/regulated - no transparency
In roulette is played live and therefore no regulation is possible, absolute transparency

And only in this way a 5-6 times higher probability for live events can be explained, in my opinion...

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stevo11984
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 06:57 pm CET#13
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Horsepower44 wrote on 02/23/2019 6:38 PM
Oh ok. Sounds argumentative coherent, personally don't think much of such theories though.

Why do you think the probability of winning is a theory.


This probability is given by the casino itself


I would like to mention by the way that live events are excluded by many casinos completely, also that explains itself only by a clearly higher profit probability, which does not exist officially

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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 06:59 pm CET#14
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Could possibly have something to do with the fact that the RTP for slots is allocated to all players.
With Roulette I would say that the RTP is really calculated per player.

Would be an idea now. Whereby I find your approach interesting.

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Horsepower44
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 07:03 pm CET#15
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stevo11984 wrote on 02/23/2019 6:55 PM

You are right. Of course the casinos don't do that. They are not stupid, they are incredibly accurate! This means that all bonus conditions are well thought out.


And therefore it is illogical that a Roulette table should have 5-6 times the probability of a slot!
Both are absolutely and exclusively a matter of luck.

So where is the difference?

With the Slot the data comes externally/regulated - no transparency
In roulette is played live and therefore no regulation is possible, absolute transparency

And only in this way a 5-6 times higher probability for live events, in my opinion, can be explained...

Well where do you take the 5-6 times from? Has no one ever claimed or? You calculate them together. Maybe there are more factors playing a role than just the pure house advantage? E.g. that a lot of mini-wins in the slot are simply gambled away again. And in the end, these also count towards the RTP. And probably even make up the majority. I guess things are a bit different at a roulette table

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stevo11984
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 07:16 pm CET#16
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Zockertyp89 wrote on 23/02/2019 at 18:59: Could possibly have to do with the fact that the RTP for slots is apportioned to all players.
For Roulette I would say that the RTP is really calculated per player.

Would be an idea now. Whereby I find your approach interesting.

Okay what do you mean by that exactly?

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Horsepower44
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 07:20 pm CET#17
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Let me give you an example:
I Deposit 50, go with it to Book of Dead. have intermediate winnings of 50 and but go out after half an hour with 0. So I still have a RTP of 50%, right?
Next I deposit another 50 and bet 2 times on red. And twice red comes. Now I am at 200 and have a RTP of 133%. I leave the table and continue playing slots.
Do you understand what I'm getting at with this? Tell me if you see it differently, but for me absolutely realistic that something like this happens every day

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stevo11984
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 07:20 pm CET#18
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Horsepower44 wrote on 02/23/2019 at 7:03 pm
Well where do you get the 5-6 times?

No one ever claimed that or did they? You do the math. Possibly more factors play a role than just the pure house advantage? E.g. that a lot of mini-wins in the slot are simply gambled away again. And in the end, these also count towards the RTP. And probably even make up the majority. I guess things are a bit different at a Roulette table.

I take that from the bonus conditions of a casino. But you're right, exactly it should be called the casino earns 5-6 times as much on slot games

As with sports betting, this value is calculated by the provider. And as already mentioned, the 5-6 times turnover for a bonus is required or the player may not play live at all, which is absolutely unacceptable, in my opinion!

Why is it different with roulette than with slots after a big win?
Increase bet or go out, I see no difference....

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stevo11984
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 07:22 pm CET#19
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Horsepower44 wrote on 23.02.2019 at 19:20: I'll give you an example:
I Deposit 50, go with it to Book of Dead.have intermediate winnings of 50 and but go out after half an hour with 0. So I still have a RTP of 50%, right?
Next I deposit another 50 and bet 2 times on red. And twice red comes. Now I am at 200 and have a RTP of 300%. I leave the table and continue playing slots.
Do you understand what I'm getting at with this? Tell me if you see it differently, but for me absolutely realistic that something like this happens every day.

i do not understand what exactly you want to get at the example...

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Horsepower44
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 07:29 pm CET#20
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stevo11984 wrote on 02/23/2019 7:22 PM

i don't understand from the example what exactly you are getting at...

The Roulette RTP was wrong by the way, just corrected it...

I'm talking about the fact that a roulette player is more likely to be satisfied with a win, less winnings flow back into the game.... And that I go out despite low RTP in the example even with a win

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